Hi like alot of people ive read this forum
for some time and ive descided to start to
write aswell about my experiences.
Im 22 years old i have my first steady
relationship wiv my girlfriend since a
year back, i think i always have had PE
but im not sure.
I will keep posting about my experiances
and try to contribute to what we all are
searching for.
Ive tried:
Ejaculation master - contains information
we already know from reading online.
Stud 100: Works sometimes and sometimes
not.
I have ordered dapoxetine from a medical
company in Shanghai i paid thru wester
union and the pills came thru!
unfortionally i threw em away since my
girlfriend really didnt wanted me to go on
SSRI´s. I respect her alot and we have a
great life together but hopefully if there
is anyone out there that wants to try it
but are to sceptical to order you know it
worked for me. Unfortionally i havent got
the name of the compnay anymore but they
are all based around the region of china.
I got to the mode when i thought i had to
live with for the rest of my life cause it
seemed like no one ever had any sucsses
but im guessin thoose people dont need the
forums but i will be dedicated after the
summer to help us gain more information.
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prem955
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 8
Posted: 07-15-08 00:29am
Wow, lots of good new information. How do
you know if its 100% neurological or just
mental? I've had P/E since the first time
I had sex. Depending on how excited I am
and just a random day I can thrust for 15
seconds to 2 minutes. I never ejaculate
upon first entry, but I do think my penis
is more sensitive then most people. I've
had some moderate success with numbing
condoms.
The prolasta seems like it may have
potential. I am staying away from SSRI's
because they really mess with your
personality and have horrible withdrawal
symptoms when you get off them.
For those that have improved, during sex
what do you think about?
Also when penetrating do you guys squeeze
at all during it or push to try and make
your erection harder?
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Jimmster
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 31
Posted: 07-15-08 04:27am
Hi Prem955,
the consensus amongst the professionals
seems to be that there is hardly ever a
clear-cut single type of PE, usually a
combination. The neurological version
(innate tendency to go off early, fast
reflex) is likely if you have PE in all
situations and have had your whole life. I
definitely had a bit of that but with
experience it went away. I think you can
avercome a bit of neurological PE by
relaxing and with experience. By
comparison, my problem is mostly
psychological and, they say is a result of
focussing too much on her and neglecting
the sensations in my own body (too much
porn and fantasy). To get back to normal I
am focussing my mind solely on what my own
body is feeling and not playing the erotic
movie in my brain, or obsessively looking
at her at the time.
This is during training sessions of
everything except penetrative sex, so I
can't report yet on the effectiveness for
the real thing, but I know I have much
more control now already. With
psychological PE half the battle is
knowing what to focus on. Distraction is
counter-productive, but might work for
neorological PE
Ongoing!
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blast00
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 58
Posted: 07-15-08 08:49am
okay so UPDATES:
I took two pills of prolasta last night
before masturbating and I lasted aobut 10
minutes. approximately 2 minutes longer
with 1 pill of prolasta and approximately
7-8 minutes longer than without any of
it.
the conclusion:
It is hard to say if prolasta is working,
or if it is just mental, it really is. But
there is no way to tell if it will work
during sex yet for me, because I will not
be able to have sex for at least 1 month
due to distance.
so I recommend that someone else try using
prolasta during sex and see if it works!!
But I DO NOT think it is a scam to be
honest. I just don't know how effective it
will work, i was hoping its delaying
effect would be a little stronger.
I will start taking paxil tomorrow 10 mg
for 3 weeks then probably bump it up to 20
mg as doctor said I should.
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Randomguy1112
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 2
Posted: 07-15-08 09:31am
Hi,
I been reading this site now for a while
and it's been really interesting listening
to other people who share the same
problems as me.
I am 28 and have had the problem since i
was about 18. But in that time i have been
inactive for a large period of time due to
my problem. Thing is i have always been
able to get girls, but i chicken out of
doing anything!! lol
I have tried everything, sprays, creams,
tablets, been to see a counselor a few
times, seen a Dr like more times than i
can remember!! lol tried Kamagra etc etc.
I've had 3 serious relationships, one of
which i have a child from. so my problem
has affected my life to an extent that i
have a child but am not with the mother
anymore, not all down to my problem but we
did used to argue about it alot.
Anyway, i have been with my current g/f
for 18 months, she is the best thing that
has ever happened to me, the best looking
girl i have ever been with and the
youngest as she is only 20!!
When we first started seeing each other i
was worried coz she was so fit i didn't
want to let her down so i got some Kamagra
to keep me hard so if i did go too early i
could continue. This really worked very
well, bar a few times, and for the next 6
months i had the best sex i have had in my
life!! and we were at it 5 times a week,
and i could go for 20 minutes sometimes
which was amazing for me. Also sometimes i
couldn't even cum, which amazed me and
her!!
But as you do in a relationship, over time
you have less sex and the less i had the
worse i got again as i couldn't keep
taking kamagra all the time.
Anyway, at the moment i can go for a
couple of minutes so am back to square one
this is why i am trying to sort it out
once and for all naturally. I don't want
to lose my g/f over it as she is the world
to me, she is understanding but does get
annoyed sometimes but she knows i am
trying to sort it out.
I just want to please her and make her
happy and not let my problem mess this
relationship up, this is why i am doing
everything i can to sort it out now.
For me i think it's all i my head, coz if
not then i would have been able to go for
20 minutes in the past, i think that 1
good time gave me lots of confidence and
then next time i was better then i just
snowballed and got better everytime.
Confidence is a big factor, but i have
always had problems with anxiety so this
is a big thing for me.
Anyway, i've been reading about kegels and
have found that doing the normal ones
makes me go quicker, but the reverse ones
(i have only tried this once last night)
really made me relax more and gave me
control so am going to continue doing them
as i have heard good things about them.
Any comments/help are welcome.
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blast00
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 58
Posted: 07-16-08 10:37am
I know this hasn't been brought up in a
while but I'm sure you guys are
interested..
I just got a big bonus at work so I have
decided I am going to solve this problem
for all, hopefully..
I just ordered a STU fleshlight, a product
we discussed earlier on the forum, an item
that claims to help people improve their
stamina and PE.
I will see how it goes, but my theory is
that if someone thinks they have PHYSICAL
PE they should order this and see what
happens. Apparently this is the closest
thing there is to having sex with a
virgin, so it would also be the tightest
and hardest sex to last long, so we will
see how long I can last.
I recommend someone who thinks their PE is
physical buy one. Me just testing it is
probably not enough.
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John414
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 36
Posted: 07-16-08 13:05pm
hey guys heres a link i stumbled across.
This is the first article i found that is
exactly what i have been talking about. PC
relaxation
wow this is crazy. In this link they talk
about how out of 150 PE books only a few
bring up the technique of PC relaxation.
It somehow slipped under the radar. They
also said its one of the most effective
techniques and I can confirm that because
it works for me and nothing else did.
Jimmster you need to read this link they
say the only book they found that
correctly teaches this technique is the
book you were just talking about "Coping
with PE".
I am very happy to have found this because
now it confirms that The Pc relaxation is
actually whats doing it, it's not just
mental
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Damendamandaman
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 29
Posted: 07-16-08 23:23pm
You have become too one minded John.
Although this may work for some, so does
Stud, and other pills. It is a fix for
some, but not a cure by far.
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rocketman1
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 29
Posted: 07-16-08 23:34pm
When I did the reverse kegel teqnique, I
felt my erections werent as hard and also
after we had sex I would be dripping cum
still.. kinda weird but it's because my PC
muscle wasnt as strong.
With all that said it still didnt cure my
PE problem.
I'm gonna start doing kegels again 100/day
and during masterbation... worse comes to
worse I have a huge erection
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Jimmster
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 31
relaxation... Posted: 07-17-08 03:59am
Hi John,
thanks for the infosex link. I came across
this just before your first post and
that's why I felt it was so on track - it
made a lot of sense to me. I think you and
I are in the same boat in that we might be
a bit prone to going off early, but
relaxation and reverse kegels give us good
control. Without techniques and a plan I
just got so worked up that there was no
chance of relaxation and I could virtually
go off unpredictably without stimulation.
Infosex does say the Metz and McCarthy
book has a lot of impenetrable
scientific/medical terminology, which is
true. I have had to reread parts of it
several times to really get to the exact
meaning. e.g. their term "self
entrancement arousal" was gibberish to me
at first. Now I know they mean getting
aroused but focussing on the actual
sensations in your own body (your dick if
she's rubbing you, or your fingers or
tongue if v.v.) rather than the natural
tendency to focus on her body and mental
images of very sexy positions and stuff.
This was a breakthrough for my kind of PE
because I overstimulate myself with these
mental images and hunger for her body. If
you focus on your own sensations you don't
get over-aroused and get to the point of
orgasm too early.
Ironically this is the opposite of
distraction techniques that have
historically been the most common advice.
That may help if you have neurological PE
(hard wired quick reflex) but is totally
counter-productive in my case because
without monitoring sensation I have no
idea where I am up to and orgasm
unpredictably and without control.
(I'm going to end up rewriting the book
here, because I have found it so helpful!)
I'm not out of the woods yet, but things
are looking up.
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blast00
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 58
Posted: 07-17-08 09:30am
guys I think I have figured out a problem,
at least of mine..
I get aroused way to quickly, maybe it is
because of the way I was raised and never
exactly being comfortable with like
"liking girls" as amateur as that sounds I
am in my 20s and I grew up in a very
conservative household.maybe some of you
can relate...
But irregardless whenever I even watch
porn I feel my "heart so to say drop" I
just get aroused... I don't get hard but
its definitely like an exciting feeling,
and I think this is the cause of PE.
When I feel this happen when I am
masturbating, it is soon after that I
cum.
Can anyone relate? does anyone have any
ideas on what I should do to maybe make
myself more comfortable around porn and
naked woman?
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makeitright
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 5
Posted: 07-17-08 16:55pm
hey blast00, dont you hire a special
'friend' for 1 hour rendevouz and see what
happens with those prolasta pills, i
ordered mine but not here yet....
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Randomguy1112
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 2
Posted: 07-17-08 18:15pm
John414
wrote:
wow this is crazy. In this
link they talk about how out of 150 PE
books only a few bring up the technique of
PC relaxation. It somehow slipped under
the radar. They also said its one of the
most effective techniques and I can
confirm that because it works for me and
nothing else did.
Jimmster you need to read this link they
say the only book they found that
correctly teaches this technique is the
book you were just talking about "Coping
with PE".
I am very happy to have found this because
now it confirms that The Pc relaxation is
actually whats doing it, it's not just
mental
John,
How long did it take you to get the
reverse kegels to work? are you still
using them and are they still working?
Anyone else using them and having results?
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tiger_tiger
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 1
NEW EXPERIMENT Posted: 07-17-08 21:58pm
Hello everyone,
This is tiger_tiger.
I joined this group today after 3 years of
my Yahoo group discussion forum. It\'s
actually going in vicious circle right
now. There is always debate on drugs and
herbs and etc. I\'m not against any of
those, I have personally tried out some of
them.
I was and have been a minute, no no second
man. Ejaculated instantly in a second.
I\'m married and you can imagine how
frustrated the relationship is. And we\'re
at divorcing point, yet I decided to get
over with this sneaky problem. Most of the
doctors don\'t even diagnose, because
simply it\'s not a disease, it\'s only a
symptom they always say. At the end they
prescribe nasty brain stimulants, like
prozac, etc.
What I realized recently my PE problem
mostly due to over sensitive penis head,
as soon as I touch or stimulate, it
triggers the ejaculation mechanism, and
rapidly reach to the point there is no
coming back or holding at the peak.
Then a month ago I decided to try go on
with masturbation (my wife is abroad for
summer) no matter how quickly I come. What
I found that the after first handy job,
without stopping go overlap 2nd round of
masturbation and stimulate only the
sensitive head this time around.
My experiment with this is while you do
head thrusting, your penis gets harder
very quick, as if you are multi-orgasmic
man. You may do 3rd, 4th if you want.
The frequent you do this exercise the
better result comes.
In 3-4 week time my ejaculation period
extended hugely. NOW believe or not, I can
hold it as long as I want. I had no chance
to try with my wife yet. Mostly I come
about 45 minutes to 1 hour, it depends on
the mood. I can really play with it,
slapping, thrusting slow or fast, etc.
I was asking everybody on yahoo group to
try out this natural, effective, and maybe
permanent solution, but most of them still
want to try pills, like tramadol, prozac,
viagra, solid36, climinax, so on.
Can anyone want to try my experiment, and
post the results here, please?
INSTRUCTIONS:
1- Try this only if you believe that you
have an over sensitive penis head and
that\'s the cause for your PE case. (feel
free to try even your cause is different)
2- Masturbate as freely and frequently as
you can. I do it every other day for
example.
3- At the beginning you may ejaculate
quickly, don\'t discouraged. Carry on,
stimulate only the head, it gives you kind
of orgasm feeling when you do that. Second
one naturally takes bit longer.
4- Over the time the sensitivity on the
head will disappear, you\'ll see. And
You\'ll gain more control over your urge.
5- I also try you might say Kegel
Exercise, but I do it only when I piss,
hold it 3-4 times every time I go to the
bathroom. Stop urinate, then release.
6- I even start getting morning erection
after for a long time. I\'m 40 by the way.
To be honest I\'ve been also semi ED while
having PE .
So, you have nothing to lose! Try and
see.
Thanks for your time.
tiger_tiger (TT)
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blast00
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 58
Posted: 07-17-08 22:32pm
makeitright- its kind of hard for me to
order a special friend... thats not a easy
thing to do where I am from nor am I
really comfortable shelling out the money
for that purpose. but its a good idea if
you can!
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John414
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 36
Posted: 07-18-08 15:00pm
Randomguy1112
wrote:
John414
wrote:
wow this is crazy. In this
link they talk about how out of 150 PE
books only a few bring up the technique of
PC relaxation. It somehow slipped under
the radar. They also said its one of the
most effective techniques and I can
confirm that because it works for me and
nothing else did.
Jimmster you need to read this link they
say the only book they found that
correctly teaches this technique is the
book you were just talking about "Coping
with PE".
I am very happy to have found this because
now it confirms that The Pc relaxation is
actually whats doing it, it's not just
mental
John,
How long did it take you to get the
reverse kegels to work? are you still
using them and are they still working?
Anyone else using them and having
results?
they are not reverse kegels its about
relaxing them and keeping it calm not
pushign reverse
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brad172
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 13 Location: Pheonix, AZ
Posted: 07-20-08 05:01am
blast00
wrote:
I know this hasn't been
brought up in a while but I'm sure you
guys are interested..
I just got a big bonus at work so I have
decided I am going to solve this problem
for all, hopefully..
I just ordered a STU fleshlight, a product
we discussed earlier on the forum, an item
that claims to help people improve their
stamina and PE.
I will see how it goes, but my theory is
that if someone thinks they have PHYSICAL
PE they should order this and see what
happens. Apparently this is the closest
thing there is to having sex with a
virgin, so it would also be the tightest
and hardest sex to last long, so we will
see how long I can last.
I recommend someone who thinks their PE is
physical buy one. Me just testing it is
probably not
enough.
Hey Blast I also had the fleshlight
"stamina training untit" It comes with a
little booklet packed with the same
breething techniques and the whole just
relax kinda thing. Anyway besides that I
would say that it kinda is a good way to
try and "train" as it does feel very
good... although I can not really say I
made any significant latency gains.
However I hardly used it though cause i
was too lazy to clean it out and all that
afterwards especially since it didn't take
me long to finish... One tip i can give
you is make sure it is completely dry
before you close it up and put it away. If
you do not do this you may find that your
unit will begin to grow mold inside like
mine did. I had to throw my
unit away may she rest in peace...
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HealthFirst
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 4
Finally posting Posted: 07-21-08 04:56am
I'd like to start off by saying that for
the past straight week, I've been reading
this entire thread. Every single post from
the very first page on.
My God, what a *wealth* of information for
guys like us. By far the best PE
discussion I've ever seen. It's a real
shame that the guys that really got it
going in the first place (NYC, POM,
HealthySex, Mand, etc.) aren't around
anymore, but the cooperation, the
openness, the drive to help other men out
there with this problem is astounding. You
guys are amazing.
This thread lives on. With each passing
day or two, new information comes to
light, and brings us closer to finding a
cure. Keep it up.
Has anyone else tried Prolasta, or is
considering using it? blast00 seems to
have had success with it, and I'm very
curious to see if it works for anyone
else, particularly during intercourse.
And John414, you sir are a rockstar.
You're the sole reason I can last for
upwards of 7 or 8 minutes (from 1-2), and
I applaud you for your advice on
relaxation and reverse Kegels. I'd like to
buy you a drink.
The site you posted is *fantastic* also.
Good luck everyone.
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southbeach
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 1
1st post Posted: 07-22-08 19:54pm
hi all, i have just read thru every single
post and i have to say i am shocked as to
why i havent been on here before. i am 25
have always lasted between 1-5 mins. For
me alcohol does me no good what so ever,
now not all of you will agree with this
but il tell you anyway. I last literally
hours if i go out have a couple of beers
and a few lines of good quality cocaine,
the more the better. Ocasionally its hard
to get it up for this is use kamagra. the
only problem with this is that you will
end up an addict. this is why i want to
try sumthing else, has anyone got any
feedback using ssri's, prolasta or
aspheton. Ive just ordered ascend has
anyone used this before? i will let you
know how i get on with when it comes.
I had to throw my
unit away may she rest in peace...