Kia
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Your Opinion?
Posted: 03-22-07 14:35pm
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Do not cuss out others if they have a
differing opinion to you.
This post is on probation. Don't make me
regret posting it.
http://www.northcountrygazette.or
g/articles/2007/031807SavingEmilio.html
I agree.
As a mother to an angel baby and to
several fur baby angels, I agree that if
no amount of care is going to do any good,
then withdrawing aggressive care and
continuing with only comfort care is the
best option.
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mamaTT
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Posted: 03-22-07 14:46pm
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I agree. If no amount of care is going to
save this child's life, why make him
suffer?
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 03-22-07 14:46pm
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I am really sorry, I can't even finish
reading this. I am very angry and i don't
want to be the one to make you regret the
post.
carry on.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 03-22-07 14:46pm
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If his illness has no cure and he has no
hope of improving...
If his brain is atrophying and the doctors
say he is dying...
If he has no chance of anything resembling
a decent life...
then keeping him alive is selfish. They
should make him comfortable and let him
pass in peace. He is alive but not living.
That isn't fair to him or anyone.
I don't know what my opinion is on the
state overriding the mother's wishes. The
fact that the mother is not paying for his
treatment, .medicaid is, doesn't sit well
with me either. I don't live in .texas,
but I wouldn't be comfortable knowing my
tax dollars were being spent keeping a
little boy who has zero chance and hope,
alive.
I wish the mother would come to this
decision on her own. Sometimes the best
thing for your child is not life.
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Bridget
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Posted: 03-22-07 15:09pm
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| AyaMiyaki
wrote: | If his illness has no cure
and he has no hope of improving...
If his brain is atrophying and the doctors
say he is dying...
If he has no chance of anything resembling
a decent life...
then keeping him alive is selfish. They
should make him comfortable and let him
pass in peace. He is alive but not living.
That isn't fair to him or anyone.
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i agree 100% with this.
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Emma2
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Posted: 03-22-07 15:20pm
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Let nature do it's thing.
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 03-22-07 15:22pm
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If they say there is no hope for a full
recovery why would they like want them to
switch hospitals or let him die . I mean
they give them 10 days to find a hospital
to care for him or they remove the
breathing tube wich will let him die, they
say its a lose situation where he will
almost be a vegetable eventually yet if
they can find a hospital to continue care
they wont remove it, Im confused here.
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Kia
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Posted: 03-22-07 15:38pm
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The state of Texas will not continue
agressively treating his condition because
there is no hope.
His mother wants them to continue care
regardless, so the have said she can have
10 days in which to find an alternative
place of care otherwise they will then
withdraw the agressive care and just aim
to keep him as comfortable as possible.
I understand *WHY* she wants it, but all
she is doing is prolonging the
inevitable.
If there was any hope then I'd be the
first to say "do your best possible".
But in this instance there is *no hope*.
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 03-22-07 15:52pm
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Yeah I would feel bad keeping someone
alive, it reminds me of the terry shaivo
thing but that was a big mess. Keepin them
alive when there is no hope i feel is
wrong , the poor baby might be suffering .
Its hard to let go but sometimes you just
have to.
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 03-22-07 15:59pm
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the mother needs to realize there is no
hope and needs to let go...as painful as
it is...it is the reality.
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 03-22-07 17:01pm
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there is absolutely nothing wrong with
having faith is christ and believing in
miracles.
I personally would never want to give up
on my child.
and thats exactly what they are asking her
to do.
This brought tears to me eyes thinking
about it being my child in that situation,
and it pains me that there are people out
there that are willing to give up hope for
miracles.
Arent your children worth atleast that? a
small amount of hope? Miracles happen
everyday.
I choose to believe it *will* happen.
and i will never give up hope for my kids.
I'd give my own life if it were to mean
they'd have atleast another chance.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 03-22-07 17:15pm
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If there was the slightest chance he could
get better, .i'm sure the doctors would
not be giving up hope - especially
considering his age.
He's not improving. He's not staying the
same. He is fading and getting worse
despite everything they're doing. They
can't do anything for him.
I'm sorry, but keeping him alive because
the mother can't let go is selfish.
I would rather my child rest in peace then
be kept breathing by a machine. I would be
very surprised if he was aware of himself
at all.
That's not living. It's existing. He
deserves better. He deserves to be with
.god in a place where there is no pain.
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 03-22-07 17:22pm
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i agree with aya. its very unnatural to be
kept alive my machines. its artificial
life. its us messing with Gods plan...i
dont think god approves of us keeping
these kids as vegetables, "alive"
(physically, not mentally) for selfish
parents that cant let go...IMO.
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Posted: 03-22-07 17:26pm
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| rainfire1424
wrote: | there is absolutely nothing
wrong with having faith is christ and
believing in miracles.
I personally would never want to give up
on my child.
and thats exactly what they are asking her
to do.
This brought tears to me eyes thinking
about it being my child in that situation,
and it pains me that there are people out
there that are willing to give up hope for
miracles.
Arent your children worth atleast that? a
small amount of hope? Miracles happen
everyday.
I choose to believe it *will* happen.
and i will never give up hope for my kids.
I'd give my own life if it were to mean
they'd have atleast another
chance. |
i 100% agree with you.. I couldnt of said
it better myself..
I think it should be the mothers choice as
long as the boy is being taken care of.
if hes not in pain then let them be.
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 03-22-07 17:50pm
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I am always so split on things like this.
I know that i wouldn't ever want my child
to suffer but i also wouldn't want to let
them die. I think parents should have the
choice but ultimatly if there is 0% of
survival it could be kinder to let nature
takes it's course, it would kill me to
make that decision but i just don't know
what would be kinder
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HcoBrunette06
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Posted: 03-22-07 17:59pm
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this is kind of like how it was with bill,
except for the age difference.
he was in a coma and we knew there was
absolutely no chance he would get better,
none, so there was no reason to sit there
and let him lay there like that and
suffere even more. my grandma had to make
the decision of whether to let him die or
to keep him alive, and she chose to keep
him as comfortable as possible, and keep
him covered up because he was always
always cold no matter what lol and they
let nature do it's thing.
i can understand why you wouldn't want
your child to die, but i wouldn't want to
see my child like that either if they
didn't have to be.
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 03-22-07 18:55pm
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thats the thing tho.
I believe in giving the benefit of the
doubt and hoping for a miracle.
you guys dont know if hes in pain or
suffering.
he can still dream.
Im sorry but i refuse to give up on this.
He should be allowed to live no matter
what. It isnt these doctors right to play
god.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 03-22-07 19:06pm
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But by keeping him on these machines, they
are
playing .god.
If he were left alone, he would probably
pass. Keeping him breathing with a machine
is just prolonging the enevitable. You can
pray for a miracle all day long, but if
his brain is atrophied, that's all there
is to it.
Don't you think that if the doctors saw
any clue that he would survive, that they
would fight for him? Especially with this
in the news?
He's already gone. Only his body remains.
It's cruel to force him to exist the way
he is. He is more than his flesh - the
part that makes him who he is has already
left. It's only right that his body should
follow.
I could never let my child exist like
that. I love her too much.
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michelle1981
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Posted: 03-22-07 20:20pm
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Being that i'm not in their position, i
can't say how i would react.
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Sandbox Party
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