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shortgeek

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Missed Ovulation
Posted: 03-24-07 08:21am

I think I'm not ovulating this cycle. I was under a ton of stress for the first week and thought that I was going to ovulate early, but the fertility signs were not consistent. I'd have wet cm one day and dry the next. I did have some ewcm but only noticed it once. I took opk for seven straight days (after starting late) and never got my happy face. I gave up taking the test on Thursday morning to save the rest for next month and because I was almost in tears Wednesday when I didn't get a positive.

I've still been taking my temp and charting. I had a temp spike last Sunday when I slept in over two hours. That was only a one-day spike. I also had a slight temp increase Wednesay that has persisted through today, but the temp is a lot lower than my typical post-o temps. It is almost as if it is more of an absence of estrogen than an increase in progesterone. Never the less, ff has given me only a possible o date of Tuesday, which was cd 14. Today would be 4 dpo, but I really don't think I ovulated.

It is probably too late now this month for me to ovulate. I never have cycles longer than 29 days.

I blame stress, diet, and exercise. When I was under so much stress, I didn't eat very well and I wasn't exercising. I've been glucose intolerant in the past and I fear that I may be slipping back into it. I read that insolin levels affect ovulation, so not having control over sugar could be bad for ovulation. I also wonder if it my body still adjusting to having aboslutely no caffeine.

At least I have a doctor's appt coming up next month. I suppose if I'm going to not ovulate, doing it right before a doctor's appt is the best time. If I get af on cd 28, my appt will be just at the start of the fertile period.

Sorry for writing so much. I haven't been on the internet much at home and am still getting caught up on all the posts in the last week.
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Posted: 03-24-07 17:54pm

I'm sorry that you had such a rough week. I hope this week is better for you. Try to take it easy this weekend and relax and watch some tv or read a good book.

Is your doctors appt with a regular doctor or a fertility specialist?
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Posted: 03-24-07 20:14pm

Sometimes when I was using the opk, I would think that I wasn't ovulating. It never really got really darker than the test line, but I could tell when I was o'ing with the ewcm and the light line on the opk. I didn't test this month as this was the last time we could try for 3 months. Hubby is having a hard time with this condom thing!!!! Confused He doesn't think he can make it a whole three months. lol. We have never used them, so it is just taking him some time to get used to the idea.
Hopefully you will have a better week next week. Try to reduce your stress. Take a long bubble bath with candles. That always does the trick for me. I started a new diet this week and it is harder than I thought. I have no problem with breakfast and lunch, but by the time dinner comes around, I want to eat the house down...
I hope you are feeling back to your old self soon.
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shortgeek

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Posted: 03-24-07 20:59pm

mc - Thank you. I'm going to my ob/gyn for an annual. She said that she would give me a referral to a fertility specialist if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not sure how long it will take before I get to see the specialist, but the referral is a start.

star - I'm using the clear blue easy digital opk. It gives either a happy face or no happy face. I didn't get any happy faces. Usually, my cm is pretty good too, but not this month.

What diet are you trying? I'm usually not very good with diets. I can't stock to anything but moderation and exercise, with exercise being the leader.
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Posted: 03-24-07 21:30pm

Sorry hun about missing you Ovulation. That sucks, like we don't have enought stress and dissapointments. That said, you deserve to pamper yourself. I wish you a peacefull week Smile)
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Posted: 03-25-07 07:19am

Thank you negar.

I'm going to do some gardening today to take advantage of a nice spring day and to get my mind off of ttc.
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Posted: 03-25-07 13:15pm

shortgeek wrote:

What diet are you trying? I'm usually not very good with diets. I can't stock to anything but moderation and exercise, with exercise being the leader.


I am on my first week of the nutrisystem diet. The food isn't that bad so far, but I can see myself getting sick of it real soon. If I do, then I am going to go to weight watchers core diet. I have been having trouble exercising because I am getting sick again. I can't get rid of this congestion in my chest. It makes my stomach feel grose.
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Posted: 03-26-07 06:36am

So sorry you didnt O this month Shorty, Hope next month brings you better luck & a BFP.
Tons of baby dust.
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Posted: 03-27-07 21:05pm

Well, I think it turns out that I did o despite not getting a positive opk. For the past few days, my temp has been steadily increasing and is now well into my normal post-o temps. My chart looks a lot more like I o'd now. It just threw me off and really frustrated me that I didn't detect an LH surge.

I'm now obsessed with figuring out what factors affect a failure to detect an LH surge when ovulation occurs. I'll definitely bring it up with my doctor. Anyone else know what could cause a negative test result?
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Posted: 03-28-07 08:24am

I think it just really depends on the time you are testing. The last positive that I got, I tested at 6 p.m. and there was a line but not dark enough to be positive. Just for kicks, I did another test at 1130 p.m. and low and behold it was positive. No where in the testing info does it recommend testing that late at night. The next cycle, I ovulated but never got a positive OPK. I must have not tested at the right time and I missed the surge. I have heard that testing twice a day can give you better results. Of course, that costs a lot more too.
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Posted: 03-29-07 19:09pm

I started using the expensive ones last month - the clear blue easy digital ones with the Smile for a positive. They say that you can use them any time of day. I prefer fmu because it is easiest and because I had a hard time detecting the lh surge later in the day using the old brand.

It was weird - I'd get a positive in the morning, a negative in the afternoon, and then another positive in the next morning. I drink a lot of water during the day and to stop drinking water and not use the restroom for hours before a test is agonizing, especially when I get a negative.

This month I used fmu only. I started testing early because I started getting the wet cm early, but my cm was inconsistent and didn't give me a clear indication of when I should start testing twice a day. The inconsistent cm, the negatives and the small temp increase had me convinced that I didn't ovulate.
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Posted: 03-30-07 03:20am

I know you said you were under some stress and not eating right. I have heard that things like that can cause you to skip ovulation from time to time. Are you comfortable posting a link to your chart just so we can have a peak.

I think I may be having a cycle like you. This one is my first on Clomid but I got sick last Friday and have been sick since. Today is CD 20 and no O yet. They say illness can delay or cause annovulation also.
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Posted: 03-30-07 20:41pm

I hope you ovulate soon. I now believe that it is more stressful to await a late ovulation than to await af.

Here is my chart: http://www.fertilityf riend.com/home/17d324

My temps on the last few days dropped to my af levels. I'm not optimistic but wishful.

We found out that some of our good friends are expecting a baby. They've been trying for about a year, so that is good news. I wish we were expecting, too, so I'm a bit envious. But I'm happy for them.
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Abbysmom

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Posted: 03-31-07 08:27am

Your chart looks good. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Just to update you on the OPKs, last night I did one at 7 and it was negative. It was almost positive but not quite. I did another one at 11 and it was positive.
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Posted: 03-31-07 19:55pm

Thank you. I'm starting to get cramps now, but I don't have any other PMS symptoms.

I can feel your frustration. Do you know how much water you drink (in case water dilutes the concentration) or how long it has been since your last trop to the RR? I have the kind of mind where I want to experiment to see what works for me, but the opportunities are few and far between.
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Posted: 04-01-07 02:02am

Your chart look good shorty, Hoping you get blessed this month. good luck.
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Abbysmom

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Posted: 04-01-07 14:02pm

Yes, your chart is looking good! Are you having anymore cramps or anything? I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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Volaremos

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Posted: 04-01-07 22:26pm

Shorty i had a quick peek at your chat & your temp still seems to be rising, I think thats pretty good. When are you due for af ( hope she doent come) ? When will you test ?

Wishing you all the happiness in the world. Hope its you BFP this time.
Tons of baby dust & sticky vibes.
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shortgeek

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Posted: 04-02-07 19:22pm

I had a temp drop this morning, Sad but af hasn't shown up yet. I think it is a bad sign if the temp drops on 13 dpo.

I had pretty bad cramps today, but my bb's are not very swollen.

I am 13 dpo and af is due tomorrow, so we'll see how tonight and tomorrow go. With the temp drop, I'm pretty sure she'll show up soon.

My dr appt is next week so I have that to look forward to. I've got some good charts now to show her.

Have you heard of anyone using the over-the-counter sperm checker? I noticed it the last time I purchased an opk. I read that the sperm test is the first one the fertility specialist will do. I think it will be impossible to get an appt with a fertility specialist before I'm fertile again. (My doctor told me that I'd get a referral if I wasn't pregnant by next week.) It might be hard to get the appointment and test results on time for next month, too. Do you know how well they work? (this might be a good doctor question.) Am I being too impatient? Should I just wait to see the specialist?

We've been focussing mostly on me and what I can do to improve our chances, but it feels like it is time to focus on him more. I feel guilty saying that because it feels like I'm shirking responsibility or something.
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Posted: 04-03-07 08:37am

shortgeek wrote:
I had a temp drop this morning, Sad but af hasn't shown up yet. I think it is a bad sign if the temp drops on 13 dpo.

I had pretty bad cramps today, but my bb's are not very swollen.


Shorty, sorry you had a temp drop. I noticed that my bb's didn't get swollen at all last month. That was the first time in a long time that has happened. Sometimes I get swollen right after ovulation.

shortgeek wrote:
Have you heard of anyone using the over-the-counter sperm checker? I noticed it the last time I purchased an opk. I read that the sperm test is the first one the fertility specialist will do.


I've never heard of this, but I would be willing to give it a try. Where did you see it?

shortgeek wrote:
I think it will be impossible to get an appt with a fertility specialist before I'm fertile again. (My doctor told me that I'd get a referral if I wasn't pregnant by next week.) It might be hard to get the appointment and test results on time for next month, too. Do you know how well they work? (this might be a good doctor question.) Am I being too impatient? Should I just wait to see the specialist?


whoa girly, maybe you do need to just relax a bit, you sound like you are very anxious about all this. I think it's great you are going to a specialist, but try to just relax. If you can't get in right away, then so be it. Gives you more time to relax. You know what they say about stress, it can keep you from conceiving.

shortgeek wrote:
We've been focussing mostly on me and what I can do to improve our chances, but it feels like it is time to focus on him more. I feel guilty saying that because it feels like I'm shirking responsibility or something.

I wouldn't feel guilty about that. I recently had a talk with dh and addressed the fact that it might just be him and not me that has the problem. I got him to agree to start paying attention to his health for the next three months while I have to wait to ttc. He said he would. We both smoke, and I am trying my hardest to quit, right now I'm down to 2 or so a day. He is trying to quit as well, but not doing as well as I am. he also agreed to cut back on the drinking. He doesn't drink a lot, but he does drink after work and on the weekends. He also agreed to start taking a multi vitamin. That is going ok - when he remembers to take it. I am constantly putting out a vitamin on his dresser so he remembers to take it.
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