In My Heart.

There are prayer vigils out side a lot of UK clinics some of them MS some of them private

strange how you are critizing ppl for being narrow minded but you are so agressive towards christian ways. i mean- you find ppl praying annoying?? thats mad and a very nasty view! you aren't that open minded after all?? funny but i expected as much. you expect others to be open minded and compassionate about women having abortions but you cant even except someone for their beliefs??
and also i would also like to point out that although abortions are sometimes done for medical/ psychological reasons you willl find that the vast majority are not. you will also find that some babies are forced from their mothers wombs still alive, covered in horrific bruises from the contractions that are brought on by the abortion. it is better that the baby is crushed to death by these contractions cos if the poor child does make it out alive he is left in a metal dish to die, but even that is more favourable than having the abortionists scissors stuck into the nape of your neck (and then opened) to put you out of your painful misery.

During a 6-7 week abortion the fetus is the size of a raspberry, it is most certainly not birthed.

PLEASE do educate yourself on abortion techniques...


How an abortion is performed.

I want to write a post discussing Abortion, the procedures which are offered NOWADAYS(like my word?), and how it has changed in the past 30+ years.

Right now abortion is safe, it is performed by LISCENSED doctors in sterile conditions, and is regulated by local health departments.

Techniques.... There are 3 ways an abortion is performed in THE US today, SURGICAL, medications, and "Labor and delivery induction". Today, abortion is not known as the PAINFUL procedure it once was known as. There are Anesthesia options available at MOST nicer clinics, and more women take advantage of this extra option. My abortion was painless 100%. Back in the 1980's, abortion was given a painful reputation due to the lack of anesthetics being offered by abortion providers.
**Todays Abortion:
*Surgical abortion is the most effective way to terminate a pregnancy, and it is performed with Suction Aspiration which is applied via a suction curretage machine. For most early abortions from 4-12 weeks, no metal insturments are needed inside of the uterus, ONLY suction is used. Some clinics offer MANUAL vacuum pumps for an early abortion from 3 through 7/8 weeks, and these are not as noisy as the machines. FROM 12 weeks to about 15 weeks, the same suction is used, but the cervix must be dilated a bit large to allow a larger suction cannula into the uterus. Some doctors also use an overnight seaweed dilator for the cervix, which softens the cervix prior to the abortion procedure day.This technique can make dilation easier. FROM 16 WEEKS through--- Whenever the law accepts, D&E is used. D&E uses SUCTION ASPIRATION, but there are metal instruments isnerted into the uterus to dismember the fetus and ensure ALL parts are completely suctioned out. NOTHING IS PARTIALLY BORN.
*** Medication abortion--abortion by pill** A woman is given a drug to STOP the fetus from growing, and it is killed thorugh this process. In 24-48 hours, she uses another drug which creates contractions which expel the fetus. the contrcations last an average of 4 hours.

***Labor and delivery abortion** There are women who do WANT Their babies, and were happy about the pregnancy, but they find out that their baby has a defect. Trisomy 18, Anencephaly, Hydrocephalus, Dandy walker syndrome, these are only a few terribly disfiguring diseases whick women may terminate for. These were wanted pregnancies, so many women want to hodl their "BABY" and have closure. Many women also choose other perosnal ceremonies, cremation, and even autopsy to see if they can recieve any new info. Their Labor is induced with Pitocin, just like any other labor which is induced. Their membranes may be stripped, and they will eventually deliver a stillborn baby. The baby is born stillborn due to a shot of Digoxin into the heart. Sometimes the baby has a defect which causes its head to be filled with massive amount of fluid, and it cannot be delivered through the cervix, so the head is collapsed to allow safe passage. This is the SUPPOSED PBA technique, which is highly misunderstood among even pro choicers.

SO..WHAT about "Back Then"??
Back in the 'day', abortion was done a little bit differently, and often most women did not recieve anesthesia, they were awake. Suction abortion was used, but D&C via a metal loop currette was often used as well. Suction is easier, and it creates fewer bleeding problems than a D&C with metal currettes would. Later abortions past 12/13 weeks were done VIA SALINE Amniocentesis, or Saline abortion. This was basically a "Labor and delivery" abortion done in a different way than we do today, and it carried many risks. SALINE was inserted into the amniotic fluid, this would kill the fetus and cause the woman to soon deliver a stillborn baby. The fetus was not euthanized beforehand though, so it is safe to say that there were live births recorded. Saline also created risks for the woman and her health as well. D&E is safer thah SALINE abortion, and it has replaced it. SALINE abortion is no longer needed or performed thanks to better techniques

do you really think looking up abortion techniques from clinic websites will give me an un-bias view?> i doubt it. the views that i typed about how abortions are carried out (in some cases) are actually from two sources. abortionists themselves and assistants that have helped out durring abortions so i hardly think you can tell me that it doesnt happen. as far as feeling sorry for the mothers? in a way i do- but my main sorrow is for the child that is dying. i have not been in the position of birth control failing but i assure you that if this did happen to me i personally would not have an abortion. as far as rapes etc. there is the morning after pill for these situations and obviously i feel great sorrow for women in that postion. i am not a cold person but i believe that when a childs heart is beating (from as young as 6 weeks) it is then a life and only god has the right to start and end lives. this is only my opinion, but nether the less it is one i will stick with and that i believe in!

and can i also say it's all good telling us all the techniques of abortion and you make it sound very clean cut- but you havent spared one thought for the pain the babies go through.

definte unarguable scientific proof that the unborn feels no pain at all please

Unlikely and probably are not even close to being proof though are they all that is being portrayed by the usage of such words is that no one really knows for sure.

As for providing proof that god exsists well to be honest i don't think he does/did.
I think that jesus was a schyzophrenic really if somebody was to claim to be the son of god now he would be carted of in a paddy wagon.

And how does it being unlikley constitute as being proof that it doesn't?
same with probably that means we don't know

nothing to do with being pro life or pro choice just pointing out that if all they can come up with is unlikley and probably then it isn't a definite no

Until there is definite proof that an unborn baby can not feel pain I think it is better to assume that it can because that is more humane. Mind you, even if it is proved that an unborn baby does not feel pain then that stll wouldn't make social abortions 'ok' with me.

i find it hilarious that you even entertain the idea that a 28 week old baby cannot feel pain. when babies are born at times much sooner than this!! if it makes you feel better to convince yourself that these children don't feel anything then go right ahead.