karl Marx said that a communist murdering
dictator who killed 40 million catholics
in fear of their rebelion.
He is completely wrong. If religion was
the opiate of the masses then why are
muslims in uprising, why are Christians
marching and protesting in the streets...
just how are we being subdued, what kind
of opiate is that?
Why do Catholics willingly go to their
deaths at the hands of state injustices.
if it really were an opiate do you think
Jesus would have died on a Cross, Mohammed
Carry a sword into many battles,
CHristians die at the hands of their
oppressors or muslims bomb their enemies.
Religion is not an opiate at all. it is
the last refuge of humanity the thing the
state properganderists can not take away
from you, the thing drives you to defend
yourself. If religion were really an
opiate as Karl Marx suggested why was it
his commuinist soviate union couldnt put
down the Muslims in Afganistan, why was it
Christians who plaved a major role in the
bringing down of his communist empire...
The soivate union was brought down by
conformists.... no it doesnt make sense.
What kind of opiate motivates people to
defend themselves in Jihad or in a
crusade... The real opiate is the
Televison and the properganda it puts out
leading to a fear of the state authorities
and the disolutin of communities... so
many people see injustice in the world and
end up saying "what can I do about it"
that is the opiate.
but there is a community left that has not
been destroyed and that is the religious
community, secular communists are going
hard and fast against both muslims and
Christians infact all religions trying to
destroy us because we are the only thing
left in the way to stop them from
implimenting a "new world"
secular/athiest/communist "order"
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What he meant was theat religion is a
means of quieting rebellion, calming the
masses and bringing cohesion to a group of
people in a time of chaos. The current
political administration is trying to do
just that in a time of chaos. Some people
need to beleive in myths in order to
behave themselves. Fear of an angry lord
or descending into hell can do that for
people who cannot think or behave for
themselves. For me, I have decided that I
can behave myself and live in peace and
harmony with others, try to keep my nose
clean, help my neighbor, and not push my
beliefs onto others and condemn other
people who have different beliefs than my
own without subscribing to allegiance to
some mythical being to give me guidance.
It is OK with me if other people want to
believe in that hocus pocus, but I would
appreciate not having it shoved down my
throat.
On another topic, I believe
congratulations are in order for Eiri,
whom I do not know well, but whose
well-written opinions I have come to
respect.
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Anonymous
wrote:
"Religion is the opiate of
the masses"
karl Marx said that a communist not a nice
acting dictator who killed 40 million
catholics in fear of their rebelion.
He is completely wrong. If religion was
the opiate of the masses then why are
muslims in uprising, why are Christians
marching and protesting in the streets...
just how are we being subdued, what kind
of opiate is that?
Why do Catholics willingly go to their
deaths at the hands of state injustices.
if it really were an opiate do you think
Jesus would have died on a Cross, Mohammed
Carry a sword into many battles,
CHristians die at the hands of their
oppressors or muslims bomb their enemies.
Religion is not an opiate at all. it is
the last refuge of humanity the thing the
state properganderists can not take away
from you, the thing drives you to defend
yourself. If religion were really an
opiate as Karl Marx suggested why was it
his commuinist soviate union couldnt put
down the Muslims in Afganistan, why was it
Christians who plaved a major role in the
bringing down of his communist empire...
The soivate union was brought down by
conformists.... no it doesnt make sense.
What kind of opiate motivates people to
defend themselves in Jihad or in a
crusade... The real opiate is the
Televison and the properganda it puts out
leading to a fear of the state authorities
and the disolutin of communities... so
many people see injustice in the world and
end up saying "what can I do about it"
that is the opiate.
but there is a community left that has not
been destroyed and that is the religious
community, secular communists are going
hard and fast against both muslims and
Christians infact all religions trying to
destroy us because we are the only thing
left in the way to stop them from
implimenting a "new world"
secular/athiest/communist
"order"
Come back and see us when you understand
what that quote means. And communism as
he envisioned it versus how it was
initiated, too.
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Birch
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Posted: 04-14-07 20:28pm
Anonymous
wrote:
Come back and see us when you understand
what that quote means. And communism as
he envisioned it versus how it was
initiated,
too.
That was a tired me.
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Posted: 04-15-07 02:10am
Birch
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
What none of you know is
this:
My bf asked me to marry him :3 !!! I'm so
happy ^^ I said yes, of course! He kneeled
and everything, god... it was
perfect!
Wow, .Eiri! Congratulations!!! What a
surprise! So how did he do
it?
It's so nerdy XD
My club (the one I'm Vice President of)
holds a gaming/anime convention every
spring in April. My bf and I started
dating around the time of this event three
years ago. Well, this year I was the
graphic design involved in designing...
everything... the con used, lol. So I was
running around trying to get things
printed, going nuts basically as the
registration hour drew near (5 pm). He
stopped me at one point and asid he had a
present for me, and I was frazzled and
went "okay?" and he told me to finish all
of the things I had to do.
So clueless, I got everything finished
just in the nick of time! Then we were
standing there as nerds flooded through,
registering for the convention. He
reiterated that he had a present for me,
and that it was to replace the one I'd
given him earlier (I gave him my
clauddaugh ring about a month ago).
He sort of re-explained wht a clauddaugh
meant when worn in different places, and
then pulled a box out of his coat, and
pulled out the ring, and kneeled, and said
that if I accepted it, I would be agreeing
to marry him, and I laughed and said of
course! I'm wearing the clauddaugh on the
left hand with the point of th eheart
facing out; this is the traditional celtic
position to denote being engaged!!!!!
My hands are so small, it's a size three;
and it was too small for them to put
stones in because they'd fall out XD So
it's just a simple sterling silver ring,
but it's better than my old one and it's a
real engagement ring. Oh, and it's really
from Ireland ^^ There's another one I
guess, that does have a stone, on its
way... it's a size four, so we'll see if
it fits XD BUT! The one I have right now
is the official one :3
The hands mean friendship, the crown means
loyalty and the heart means loooove.
Heheeh XD
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Posted: 04-15-07 22:42pm
Eiri
wrote:
What none of you know is this:
My bf asked me to marry him :3 !!! I'm so
happy ^^ I said yes, of course! He kneeled
and everything, god... it was
perfect!
oh eiri now this is much nicer news than
hearing you speaking bad about
christians... Congratulations!!! Have you
thought on a wedding date yet?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 04-15-07 22:43pm
nightangel73
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
What none of you know is this:
My bf asked me to marry him :3 !!! I'm so
happy ^^ I said yes, of course! He kneeled
and everything, god... it was
perfect!
oh eiri now this is much nicer news than
hearing you speaking bad about
christians... Congratulations!!! Have you
thought on a wedding date
yet?
No, we'd like to have me finish these last
two semesters and get an apartment/house
first ^^
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nightangel73
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Posted: 04-15-07 22:51pm
Eiri
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
What none of you know is this:
My bf asked me to marry him :3 !!! I'm so
happy ^^ I said yes, of course! He kneeled
and everything, god... it was
perfect!
oh eiri now this is much nicer news than
hearing you speaking bad about
christians... Congratulations!!! Have you
thought on a wedding date
yet?
No, we'd like to have me finish these last
two semesters and get an apartment/house
first ^^
sounds good. It will go by fast! I just
bought my dream house and have begun
moving. It's awesome.
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Posted: 04-16-07 01:45am
Hello, I totally missed the news .Eiri
sorry! I must have skipped a page or
something
Congratulations!!!!!!
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Birch
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Posted: 04-16-07 11:03am
Yeah, that's pretty nerdy, .Eiri! j/k, it's the
"nerdy" people that makes life good. I
bet you guys will have an interesting
ceremony-for some reason, when I read that
he asked you, I thought of a recent hand
fasting ceremony I attended. It was
spiritual and meaningful.
Anyways, I'm sure that's far off.
Congrats again!
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Jackgreggory
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Posted: 05-17-07 02:18am
Eiri
wrote:
I am .highly .offended by
this post.
I am not .christian.
I do not follow .christian .doctrine and I
deserve to not have it shoved down my
throat.
I am highly offended by some of the other
posts on this page and I am also HIGHLY
offended that they can have their views
but no one else is supposed to have
them???
Quote:
You are extrmely
ignorant in that you assume the only women
who get abortions are women who are not
christian or who don't "feel the love of
jesus" in their hearts. In fact, since
christianity is the dominant religion in
america, most of them women who
abort are aready christian. Clearly,
the religion has no bearing on their
desicion to
abort.
True. They probably were mostly
Christians ...Clearly you seem to have an
axe to grind with Christians.
Christianity isn't about being perfect.
Christ did not wait for us to change...he
suffered and died while we were all still
sinners.
Quote:
Next: you are
trying to use religion to control these
women. You are trying to take away their
rights. You are trying to guilt them into
being breeding machines. You are trying to
make them forget the last century of civil
rights that women have attained.
Who's trying to control them?
Christianity is a choice. This was a free
country last time I checked. Most women
who undergo abortions have GREAT guilt
afterwards. You should mention that
too...
What has the last century of civil rights
actually given to women? 90% divorce
rates? Much, MUCH higher rape cases.
Teen pregnancy on the rise. Single
mothers on the rise.
Seriously...if you can come up with a
cause other than the women's
sexual revolution that happened in the
60s, let me know. What else could you
blame it on???
Quote:
Please take your
religion out of this scientific debate.
Formulate your own thoughts and your own
feelings; don't depend on a book to tell
you how to feel and act. Take
responsibility for your actions; don't
blame bad deeds on a "devil", but realise
that it was your own choices that caused
it. When you can do this, then suddenly
all good human deeds mean even more!
We will respect people who have their own
ideas; not those who are brainwashed into
thinking that only one idea is the right
solution.
Similarly, the Christians on this forum
think you are trying to brainwash them
into thinking that your only one idea is
the right solution.
Please don't bash other
views...constructive comments are fine.
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Tylanas
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The thing that pro-lifers clearly don't
understand is that being pro-choice isn't
rooted in a religion. Pro-choice isn't
about abortion. It's about freedom, and
the right to control one's own body.
That's what it's about. Pro-life is all
about abortion. Do you know where most
images of abortions are? On pro-life
sites.
Pro-choicers are against shoving our views
down other people's throats. You have
every right in the world to be personally
pro-life and think abortion is evil and
that the little fetuses and embryos have
hair and can talk and are all crying out
for mommy when they are aborted. What you
don't have the right to do is tell someone
else that they are going to hell. You
don't have the right to promote
jurisdiction that restricts a woman's
right to her body. You don't have the
right to spread lies about abortion just
to get people on your side.
Imagine it this way: Pro-choice is a
building. We're just there. You have the
right to come inside if you want, but a
building does not have tentacles or crazy
appendages reaching out to snag you.
Pro-life is an angry mob trying to get
into that building and burn it to the
ground.
Imagine everyone is a separate building.
Pro-choicers don't go into your building;
they respect your privacy and your right
to decorate it any way you want.
Pro-lifers try to get inside your building
and redecorate it the way they see as
proper. They will tell you that they way
you have decorated is evil and you'll go
to hell, and that it's wrong to decorate
that way. They'll bang on your windows.
That's how I see it.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 05-17-07 09:10am
Great analogy, Eiri. And I like the pic.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 05-17-07 12:39pm
sillyakchick
wrote:
Great analogy, Eiri. And I
like the pic.
Thank you
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Posted: 05-17-07 21:56pm
sillyakchick
wrote:
What he meant was theat
religion is a means of quieting rebellion,
calming the masses and bringing cohesion
to a group of people in a time of chaos.
The current political administration is
trying to do just that in a time of chaos.
Some people need to beleive in myths in
order to behave themselves. Fear of an
angry lord or descending into hell can do
that for people who cannot think or behave
for themselves. For me, I have decided
that I can behave myself and live in peace
and harmony with others, try to keep my
nose clean, help my neighbor, and not push
my beliefs onto others and condemn other
people who have different beliefs than my
own without subscribing to allegiance to
some mythical being to give me guidance.
It is OK with me if other people want to
believe in that hocus pocus, but I would
appreciate not having it shoved down my
throat.
On another topic, I believe
congratulations are in order for Eiri,
whom I do not know well, but whose
well-written opinions I have come to
respect.
i always find funny how the pro-choicers
say that we push our beliefs to other l
but they don't think that they are pushing
their beliefs to us. I think carifairy is
the only pro-choicer i never read whining
about this. I is never inventing stories
about chrisitians.
like racism in america...the blacks can
talk about bad about whites but if the
whites talk bad about blacks then they are
quickly judged as racist.
it's same way here. Pro-choice can try to
convince us of anything but then if
christian say something oh they are trying
to shove it down our throaths. Please
folks get this caca out.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 05-17-07 22:10pm
nightangel73
wrote:
sillyakchick
wrote:
What he meant was theat
religion is a means of quieting rebellion,
calming the masses and bringing cohesion
to a group of people in a time of chaos.
The current political administration is
trying to do just that in a time of chaos.
Some people need to beleive in myths in
order to behave themselves. Fear of an
angry lord or descending into hell can do
that for people who cannot think or behave
for themselves. For me, I have decided
that I can behave myself and live in peace
and harmony with others, try to keep my
nose clean, help my neighbor, and not push
my beliefs onto others and condemn other
people who have different beliefs than my
own without subscribing to allegiance to
some mythical being to give me guidance.
It is OK with me if other people want to
believe in that hocus pocus, but I would
appreciate not having it shoved down my
throat.
On another topic, I believe
congratulations are in order for Eiri,
whom I do not know well, but whose
well-written opinions I have come to
respect.
i always find funny how the pro-choicers
say that we push our beliefs to other l
but they don't think that they are pushing
their beliefs to us. I think carifairy is
the only pro-choicer i never read whining
about this. I is never inventing stories
about chrisitians.
like racism in america...the blacks can
talk about bad about whites but if the
whites talk bad about blacks then they are
quickly judged as racist.
it's same way here. Pro-choice can try to
convince us of anything but then if
christian say something oh they are trying
to shove it down our throaths. Please
folks get this health question
out.
If you read my examples on houses, I think
you'll understand more clearluy the true
aspect of pro-life and pro-choice. Yes, in
a way, we are "forcing" you to not remove
our rights. But that's like forcing
someone to not to kidnap you; would you
actually be blamed for "removing" the
kidnapper's choice to kidnap you? No!
You'd be a hero!
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Re: Good News: Abortion Is No Longer Needed Posted: 06-19-07 17:24pm
Anonymous
wrote:
Good News: Abortion is no
longer needed - Why following Jesus Christ
is the only way to end abortion
The ressurection of Jesus, the
Ressurection of the dead....God breathes
new life into man.... he is raised up,
Just as Jesus is raised up. Our old life
we shared with the Animals our new life we
share with God.
Humanity takes on the divinity of Christ
and the diginity and worth of Almighty
God...so all human beings become one with
Christ and share in the sacredness of
almighty God.
We are given a new dignity/our dignity is
RENEWED a divine dignity, our dignity is
ressurected and brought to a new life in
Christ and so what we do to the least of
our brothers (humanity) we do unto Christ
himself.
In Christ we share in such dignity and in
sin we scandalize Christ and degrade
ourselves, we abandon our divine dignity
and are reduced to animalistic human
nature which leads to the degrading of
fellow human beings and a reduction of
humanity once again to animal like status.
When we embrace Christ our human nature is
humbled before God and we are raised up to
a divine nature with Christ in a renewed
life.
A Christian does not discriminate or
persecute or reduce people to a less
status of divine dignity, we recognise
their worth as divine but do they
themselves recognise that in themselves?
For example a Christian does not reduce a
man who is attracted to other men to a
less status of divine dignity and if he
embraces Christ he humbles his human
nature before God embraces his divine
dignity.
But the man who rejects Christ and
embraces his human nature. In his sin he
abandons the dignity God has bestowed upon
him and is given over to animalistic
behaviour and becomes an enemy of God and
of divine human dignity.
A woman Caught in lust for another man
other than her husband who embraces Christ
humbles her human nature before God and
embraces her divine dignity.
However the woman who rejects god fails to
recognise her divine dignity and becomes
enflamed with passion and is given over to
animalistic behaviour which leads her to
her becoming an enemy of God and divine
human dignity.
Just as the sexual act carried out in
accord with Christ and with divine human
dignity often becomes manifest in the
flesh with the birth of a loved Child. So
too the sexual act carried out in
rejection of Christ and rejection of
divine dignity often becomes manifest in
the flesh with the abortion of a unwanted
Child.
All these human beings the Man with an
attraction to another man, the woman with
lust for another man other than her
husband and the unborn Child all share in
the dignity of Christ, just as all of us
share in this divine dignity too but not
everyone recognises their own dignity or
the dignity of others.
christians recognise our own dignity in
Christ and we recognise in others their
divine dignity in Christ also and moved by
the love of God we want to help others
discover their divine dignity and are
compelled to defend those who for whatever
reason are not being granted their divine
dignity by others.
Just as God breathed life into Adam, the
father of humanity
We were raised to a new life in Christ, he
breathed a new life into us a renewed
spiritual life we lost at the fall of
humanity "he breathed on them and said
recieve the holy spirit" he came so we
could have life and life abundently, a
divine life with him, a God who leads
humanity to a culture of life
those who reject Christ do not embarce the
new life and seek to destroy the life that
is in others just as they saught to
destroy the lifegiver on that fateful Good
Friday, today we still face that same
primary evil that crucified our lord, the
same primary evil that leads humanity to a
culture of death.
Points of reflection:
Think of a world where all mankind share
in the dignity of god and recognise that
Then Think about the consiquences of
mankind embracing sin... of mankind
without divine dignity
For the wages of sin is death, but the
gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
Satan was a lier and a not a nice person
from the begining
each person is tempted when he is drawn
away and enticed by his own evil desires.
Then after desire has conceived, it gives
birth to sin, and when sin is fully grown,
it gives birth to death.
GOD SENT HIS ONLY SON NOT TO CONDEMN THE
WORLD BUT TO SAVE THE WORLD THROUGH
HIM
wow
please
SHUT UP!!!!
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Posted: 06-19-07 17:55pm
this post is a few months old
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Posted: 06-19-07 19:55pm
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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Tylanas
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Haha XD I love the two new pro-choice
replies we got, they made me chuckle
So how did he do
it? 
