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idiot4848

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Pregnancy Possible Without Ejaculation?
Posted: 04-11-07 00:12am

Hi,

i was wondering if it was possible to become pregnant without intercourse and without ejaculation. Allow me to illustrate-

my partner and I have done a little fooling around on several occasions but have never had intercourse. I haven't ejaculated on or around her vaginal area. However, this afternoon, as we were fooling around I noticed a small secretion from my penis. This landed on the upper part of her underwear, however, we continued to fool around and eventually, my penis was rubbing around her vaginal area. Keep in mind, her underwear was always on and nothing went under it. Later I fingered her but i'm confident that I did not have any sperm on my hands. She is supposed to begin her period on the 23 or 24.

My questions are twofold. First, what was the secretion? I did not ejaculate and I just don't understand what it could have been.

Secondly, is it possible to get pregnant doing something like this? If so, what are the chances? Should she take the "morning after" pill?

Thank you for any responses.
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BridgetC87

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Posted: 04-11-07 01:44am

the secretion is called pre cum.
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gobucks21

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Posted: 04-11-07 10:01am

Chances of getting pregnant are EXTREMELY unlikely. What you saw was pre-ejaculatory fluid. Every man has that. It's simply a fluid that clears your internal pathways of anything that shouldn't be there before semen passes through. Since your urine is slightly acidic, this liquid, which is slightly basic like semen, passes through in order to neutralize it so your sperm will continue to be functional. It shouldn't ever physiologically have sperm in it and even if it did it would be rather difficult for it to be functional sperm. As for getting pregnant, you have really nothing to be worried about at all.
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Posted: 04-11-07 11:33am

gobucks21 wrote:
It shouldn't ever physiologically have sperm in it and even if it did it would be rather difficult for it to be functional sperm.


Pre-ejaculate often does have sperm and causes many pregnancies. That is why the pull out method is not a reliable method of birth control, even if the man does pull out in time. Many teens get pregnant and say, "Well, he was only in there for a second," or "He did not even ejaculate."

fool (feels funny calling you that, but ok Laughing ) It is very unlikely that she would be pregnant if she had her underwear on. Sperm has trouble swimming through fabric. Also, to stay alive, sperm has to be kept wet. That means that if the semen dries out, the sperm dies. So for sperm to successfully make it through underwear, the underwear pretty much has to be soaking wet, and even then, it's an awfully long way to swim.

For more information check out these sites:

"Although sperm can live for up to six days inside the female body, they tend not to survive very long on clothing or hands..."
http://www.coolnurse.com/s ex_faqs.htm

"The high failure rate of a guy “pulling out” makes this 'situation' NOT a form of birth control by any means. This is due to the lubricating presence of pre-ejaculate fluid, which leaks out of the penis before ejaculation. In many cases with many people there are more than enough sperm to impregnate a female...."
http://www.coolnurse.com/ sex_faqs5.htm
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gobucks21

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Posted: 04-11-07 11:38am

Ok. I should correct myself. I suppose it can contain sperm. However, the entire purpose of it is to chemically prepare for semen. It can contain sperm but in a perfect situation, and of course everyone is slightly different, it shouldn't ideally contain semen. But you are right. It can, though ideally it shouldn't. Obviously, we do not live in a perfect biological world.
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Posted: 04-11-07 12:07pm

gobucks21 wrote:
Ok. I should correct myself. I suppose it can contain sperm. However, the entire purpose of it is to chemically prepare for semen. It can contain sperm but in a perfect situation, and of course everyone is slightly different, it shouldn't ideally contain semen. But you are right. It can, though ideally it shouldn't. Obviously, we do not live in a perfect biological world.


Agreed. I have heard of a few studies where researchers say there was no sperm in the pre-ejaculate that they looked at, and the researchers said it might be a myth altogether*. Then I have heard many other people say that pre-ejaculate can contain sperm if there was sperm in the reproductive tract from a previous ejaculation, and the pre-ejaculate was flushing it out**. Until the researchers finish their studies and definitively say otherwise, I always say it's possible. Laughing Better safe than sorry, especially in these situations!

* "The more significant finding, however, was that most pre ejaculate samples did not contain any sperm and those that did had only small clumps of a very small amount of sperm which seemed to be immobile.... If these results are confirmed, they may dispel the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm."
http://www.popline. org/docs/1019/090313.html

(I find these guys a little fishy so far. They found sperm in pre-ejaculate, but they say it might be a myth? Hmm. Does not make sense to me. I could understand if they had said it might "dispel the myth that pre-ejaculate can cause pregnancy" or that "pre-ejaulate may contain viable sperm," but that isn't what they said. They said sperm in general after they just told us that they did find some sperm.)

** "Although pre-ejaculate does not contain sperm, it can pick up live sperm up from a man's reproductive tract from previous ejaculations. This small amount of sperm could cause pregnancy,...."
h ttp://www.teenwire.com/ask/2006/as-2006032 8p1246-pregnant.php
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idiot4848

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Posted: 04-11-07 12:24pm

Thanks for the responses everyone.

So what I'm getting is it is possible for her to be pregnant but extremely unlikely. She did have her underwear on the whole time and it wasn't soaking wet so i think we'll be okay.

Should I ask her to take the morning after pill anyway?
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gobucks21

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Posted: 04-11-07 12:38pm

The chances are incredibly low... Very low. I really wouldn't worry too much about it but it is always better to be safe than sorry. Why don't you look into other birth control methods so you don't have to worry next time? I know you weren't having sex but it would put your mind to rest.
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Posted: 04-11-07 12:38pm

idiot4848 wrote:

Should I ask her to take the morning after pill anyway?


I think the chances of her being pregnant are so incredibly small if everything you told us was accurate, that personally, I would not even bother with the morning after pill. That's just me though. If you want to look into it just to be sure, or even just for the peace of mind, go for it.
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idiot4848

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Posted: 04-11-07 13:51pm

Again thanks for all the replies.

I do have some condoms on hand just in case but we're going to wait to have sex until a much later date. I don't think there is much of a chance, if any, of her being pregnant. Everything I told you guys was accurate. Its just a little nerve racking when the internet basically tells you whatever you are looking for.

Last question I promise. I looked into the "day after pills" and they really didn't give much of an explanation of side effects and how serious they are. Has anyone here experienced anything?

Again thanks for all responses.
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Posted: 04-11-07 14:03pm

in my experience, the morning after pill doesn't have effects that are all that bad. It's basically just a big dose of progesterone birth control (or at least the one I had was). I had some spotting and my next period was weird, and I felt nauceous. Nothing worse than the stress of thinking you might be pregnant.

However, if I was her, I wouldn't worry about it. You can if you're concerned but it doesn't sound like there is much of a reason to worry.

Also, I know that some doctors will give a prescription for the morning after pill (map) for you to have just in case you need it. It's a good idea if you are not on a hormonal birth control.
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Posted: 04-11-07 14:51pm

idiot4848 wrote:

Last question I promise. I looked into the "day after pills" and they really didn't give much of an explanation of side effects and how serious they are. Has anyone here experienced anything?


According to these sites:

"What are the most common side effects of the Morning-after Pill?

irregular bleeding: Women using the morning-after pill may experience a change in their next period. It may come early, on time, or be late. Most women will get their period 7 to 9 days after treatment. If your period has not occurred by 21 days after treatment, you should check this out with a pregnancy test.

nausea: Half of women using this method will experience nausea and some will have vomiting. Take the morning-after pill with food to minimize this side effect. When vomiting occurs due to the morning-after pill it probably indicates that enough hormone has reached the blood stream to have its desired effect. There is no need to repeat the dose.

ectopic pregnancy: If the morning-after pill fails to prevent pregnancy, there is an increased chance it is a tubal pregnancy.

other: Common side effects include breast tenderness, fatigue, headache, abdominal pain, and dizziness. Since the morning-after pill is a short-term treatment, these symptoms should resolve shortly after you complete the two doses."
http ://www.nyabortion.com/birthcontrol/themorn ingpill.shtml

"is it safe?

Here are some of the side effects:

* nausea
* vomiting
* infertility
* breast tenderness
* ectopic pregnancy (can be life threatening)
* blood clot formation "
http://www.morninga fterpill.org/mapinfo1.htm
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Posted: 04-11-07 18:45pm

There is no way that she is pregnant. You can get pregant from pre-cum BUT you were never inside her when you had the pre-cum.
When you ejaculate (say on her stomach) that sperm is dead when it hits the air.
If you were having sex and pulled out to ejaculate then there is a small chance because of the pre-cum.
The sperm has to be inside of her.
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Llewellyn

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Posted: 04-11-07 19:22pm

beckynorman wrote:

When you ejaculate (say on her stomach) that sperm is dead when it hits the air.


Sperm does not die as soon as it hits air. It usually stays alive for about one to three hours, but it depends on the environment. Usually if the semen is wet, the sperm is still alive. The semen will dry out in open air eventually, causing the sperm to die, but that certainly does not happen the minute it comes out of the penis!

That means pregnancy can occur even if the penis never went in the vagina. Pregnancy can occur if fingers with semen on them are put into the vagina. It also can occur if semen drips from the anus to the vagina during vaginal sex.

More info:
"Sperm are alive and active as long as they are wet. If your partners' hands are still wet or damp, you could get pregnant. Sperm are very determined little creatures. Active sperm placed near the vagina can find their way into the body to fertilize the ovum. Pregnancy can and does happen this way."
http://ww w.teenhealthfx.com/answers/Sexuality/777.h tml
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idiot4848

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Posted: 04-12-07 00:06am

So we have decided to not worry about it. It seems as tho its very unlikely there was any sperm in the first place and also the pre cum wasn't even inside her or very close to her vaginal area. Anyone have any last comments?
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Posted: 04-12-07 15:10pm

Sounds good. I wouldn't worry either.

However, is there a reason you (or she) is not on birth control? I guess if you're not having sex than you don't need to be but it sounds like you are headed in that direction...

Just wondering. You don't have to answer.
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