Testicle Pain For 13 Months, Lost Hope? Posted: 04-11-07 03:39am
Bare with me guys
it's a bit long, just for a bit.
Hi, I have been surfing many forums since
I have had problems with my testicles.
Problem: I have had testicle pain both my
testicles for the past 13 months, the
feeling in my testicle is a mixture of
pain and discomfort.
When I sit down for a long period time,
the bottom part of my testicle feels like
it's heating up and it is really
uncomfortable to sit, I usually just block
the pain out with my mind.
My testicles feel less pain when I sitting
up, like when I am taking a shower, I feel
better.
Sometimes the pain is less, sometimes the
pain is less, it's like this for me 24/7,
if I am not feeling pain in my testicles,
then it's discomfort.
* I have been to doctors, I have seen at
least 4 different doctors since last
summer. First doctor suggested it might
be epididymitis, the pain started to fade,
run out of antibiotics, went back to the
doctor, got more pills, this time the pain
didn't stop, I went back 3rd time, got
more antibiotics(more powerful/cipro)
failed, the pain didn't increase or
decrease.
The other doctors said since the
antibiotics failed, it was not an
infection, went for ultrasound to check
for cancer, results were negative, no
signs of cancer.
Another doctor decides maybe the pain is
because I played sports, gives me heavy
pain killers, but like I predicated at the
time, nothing happened, the pain killers
didn't do a single thing.
Finally the doctor I went to see a few
months ago, told me it was "nothing" I
just need to sit bitter, the guy ignored
what I told him and thus here I am today
hopeless.
I have no where else to go, I have lost
faith in the doctors, I don't blame them
at all, they don't know everything. I am
thinking of going to go see another doctor
despite my lost confidence. Sigh, I am 20
years old and before this, my life was at
an all-time high, now I am at an all-time
low.
If anyone has suggestions it will be
greatly appreciated.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 04-11-07 14:39pm
This is a tough one and unfortunately I
don't know any real answers. It's quite
common to lose faith in doctors as there
are many problems they just don't know
about. And the ones they do know about
they know nothing more than what drug to
push. They'll write it off as in your
head.
First off, have you considered going to a
specialist, perhaps a urologist? They
might be of more help.
Second, how about natural medicine, a
naturopath or accupuncturist? I don't
really know what a naturopath could say as
they're very good at leading people to
healthier lives, but they're not doctors
and can't really diagnose diseases. But
you never know what one may have
encountered before. When I say
accupuncturist, I don't mean go get
needles put in your body. I just mention
them because they're sort of like the
Chinese version of a naturopath, they do
more than just work with needles. I'm not
sure what these avenues will bring you,
but I wouldn't give up until I found an
answer or relief. Even if natural doctors
don't diagnose you, they may still offer
help towards relief. The body is
completely connected, so a pain in the leg
can actually caused by the heart. By
treating the whole body or certain areas,
we can actually treat another. Maybe they
can help you do this.
Thirdly, you mention a doctor saying it
was epididymitis and giving you
antibiotics. Was there any specific reason
the doctor came to that diagnosis? It's a
common diagnosis, but I mean, did he take
any urine or blood samples to test for
infection? Or any type of examination or
test at all that made him come to that
conclusion? I'm wondering, because you
said it seemed to work (placebo effect
perhaps), but then later doses did nothing
and another doctor said it was not an
infection. Did the doctor who said it was
not an infection do any tests to conclude
that?
I'm wondering if you have a low level
chronic infection. If you think you might,
go to the thread "Reoccurant Chlamydia
infection." It should be right on the
first page now, and if you have trouble
finding it let me know. In that thread, I
talk about some things that help fight
infections, improve immune systems, and
then replenish probiotics (good bacteria).
I'd suggest you read it either way and
replenish your probiotics since you've
taken antiobiotics so many times. They
kill good bacteria too and now bad
bacteria is left unchecked.
Fourthly, I understand you had an
ultrasound to check for cancer and I'm
sure they would have looked for other
problems. Was there no other indications
of anything? Not a varicocele, or
anything? Perhaps get another. I wouldn't
give up on this, no point in living in
pain. If you have to go through 30 doctors
until you find one that actually cares
enough to continue looking for causes than
that's what you do.
Fifthly, what is the pain like? Is it
similar to being kicked in the balls, but
perhaps to a less extent? You mention
burning. In the testicle or just on the
skin?
Sixthly (<--is that even a word, heh),
you find sitting uncomfortable and
standing better. Do you find differences
in the amount of support you have? Such
as, do loose boxers or supportive briefs
make a difference? Do you wear tight
jeans?
Lastly, although it doesn't seem like a
complete answer...you say it hurts more
when you sit and the doctor said it's the
way you sit. Though not complete, perhaps
better circulation would help you. Maybe
you could try sitting on padding. You can
get pillows that are made from memory foam
(you know, the stuff that NASA made, that
the infomercial mattress is made of) at
any of the big stores, WalMart, Kmart,
Target.
Hope you find an answer, and don't give up
until you do. There's always a cause, it
just might not be where the pain is.
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lilguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 2
Thank You Posted: 04-14-07 05:37am
Hi, you have no idea how helpful your
questions were.
Why didn't the doctors ask me such
questions? I don't understand,
they just took my word for it. If they
asked me some of the questions you asked
me I think they would have had a better
understand.
Anyway, to answer your questions.
1. All but the 1st doctor I saw were
urologists, the first doctor I saw was a
practitioner, he was by far the most
helpful actually.
2. Natural medicine, I have thought about
myself for days, but didn't know where to
start, like who do I talk to? I tried
googling some stuff ealier, like "natural
pain cures" but of course in this day and
age, you usually get stormed with fake
sites that just want money.
** If you know anything more on how I can
start looking into this, I would
appreciate it allot!
3. The doctor said I had epidiymitis
because one day I came in, told him what I
was feeling then(pain was much worse at
this time) he took an STD test, came out
negative, but I had a fever, so he said I
def. had some infection, gave me some
antibiotics. Then I returned, told him,
they worked, then stopped, then he gave me
some more antibiotics, they didn't work at
all this time, then he said, it can't be
an infection then.
** It's as if they expected the
antibiotics to work 100%. I also read
some people's bodies become immune to
antibiotics, but I am no doctor so maybe
he was right.
4. The ultrasound, from what I know was to
check for anything that wasn't suppose to
be there, that's what the doctor told me,
pretty much in those words. This was my
first time with these things, call me
stupid but I didn't really ask any
questions, I just followed what ever they
said. They called me few days later told
me the results came out negative, they
didnt' find anything unusual.
** I have no idea what a varicocele is,
but since you mentioned it, I will look
into it asap.
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5. Now that I really think about it, and
feel my self out so to say, the pain is
not actually in the testicles(the ball),
but more on the skin or perhaps the
nervers in the scrotum, near the bottom of
the scrotum where the testicles usually
lay if a man were to stand up straight.
6. I do find some difference in the
support, when I wear loose boxers like I
am now, usually* the pain/burning is not
that bad. I can sit on the computer for a
few hours and not really notice it too
much. But, if I wear jeans, and I don't
wear tight jeans at all, I can't sit
anywhere with my jeans on for more than
30-40 minutes without my scrotum heating
up it seems.
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Another thing, like when my left
testicle's skin is touching my left thigh
for more than 30 minutes, usually I feel
some discomfort there as well, it seems
like whatever my testicles touch for more
than a short period of time, they can't
stand it.
I'd also say the pain is more on the left
side, like 70/30 ratio(70 on the left, 30
on the left) kinda thing.
Anyway, I really, really appreciate your
reply, you have no idea what you just
opened up in me. When I went to the
doctors, it seemed like they were rushing
me out the door, didn't really give me a
chance to explain, just wrote me off some
meds and set me off.
I really really appreciate this man, if
you have more advice, please share.
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lvnadrm
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Palm Beach
Posted: 04-14-07 06:19am
Has any doctor that you have gone to
mentioned torsion. This is when the tubes
that carry the sperm (epididymis)get all
tangle up with each other. It happens to a
lot of athletes from continuous movement
and trauma. It usually corrects itself
within days or weeks. If it doesn't a
minor operation may be necessary.
This is not something an ultrasound tech
would notice as they are looking for
growths and masses (dark spots on the
screen).
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 04-14-07 15:52pm
1. That's good. It might help to see both,
and other types as well if you're led that
way.
2. To find a naturopath you could go on to
google and type things such as
"naturopath" or "find a naturopath." There
are many sites out there dedicated to
naturopaths and naturopathic medicine and
I'm sure some have ways to find one in
your area. The other is to try
yellowpages.com. And one of the best ways
is to talk to the people that work at
health stores. They have hundreds of
customers concerned with natural health
that come in every week. Some of those
customers have talked about their doctors
or naturopaths, and others ask if they
could recommend a naturopath or doctor. So
you should be able to get some info from
them about naturopaths and doctors in your
area. Go to yellowpages.com and start
calling the health stores in your area and
ask. You might find that one of the store
owners is actually a naturopath
him/herself. You might also be able to get
recommendations to good doctors in
general, or perhaps a doctor that
practices natural medicine as well.
3. I'm not a doctor either, so I don't
know if antibiotics not working is a clear
sign of no infection. I also don't know
about people becoming immune to
antibiotics. However, bacteria most
definitely becomes immune to antibiotics,
so that's essentially the same difference.
Bacteria multiply extremely quickly and in
large numbers, allowing for quick
evolution, or passing down of genes,
survival of the fittest. When you take
antibiotics you destroy the infection
and/or at least control it to where the
body's natural defenses can take over. If
any bacteria survive they have come into
contact with the antibiotics and may have
actually survived because they're
resistant. Now the bacteria in your body,
the bacteria that will multiply are
resistant and will for the most part pass
down that resistance. That's why the
overuse of antibiotics can be dangerous,
at least for society as a whole. Because
if antibiotics are passed out for any
infection, the bacteria become resistant
and when someone really needs antibiotics
they've become less effective. That's the
reason when you went back he'd give you a
different type every time, because he
doesn't want to give you an antibiotic the
bacteria are already resistant too.
Like I said you should take probiotics to
replenish your good bacteria as well as
fight the bad bacteria, keep them in
check, improve digestion and everything
else it does. Go the thread I mentioned
and it will also list infection fighters
and immune boosters. Might as well give it
a go to fight off any infections you have
now (testicle related or not), then follow
with probiotics and continually take them
with an immune booster. If you talk to a
naturopath he can make better
recommendations.
4. I figured they'd test for everything,
as why do it, just wanted to make sure. I
had an ultrasound done too for testicle
pain which was first believed to be
epididymitis as well. Turned out to be a
varicocele, which is basically just a
varicose vein of the testicle. It doesn't
sound like what you have because it causes
more of an ache, like a mild kick to the
balls, and some stomach pain too.
5. Well, if you have a new description
it's probably best for you to go back to
the doctors and explain it again. Take
some time when your in pain to think about
the actual pain and how to describe it.
It's easier to do when you're actually
feeling it. Do the same for when you're
only feeling discomfort as that may help
to describe as well. Then write it down,
as well as your whole story, any
anomalies, weird days, and maybe anything
you can think of that happened before or
during, anything you've noticed. That way
you can give the doctor the whole picture
and you won't forget anything. If it seems
like he's not listening, then maybe you
need a new doctor. If he rushes to a
conclusion ask him why and why it's not
something else. You're paying him, so if
he can't listen, pay someone else.
If it's not in the testicle at all and
only in the skin, perhaps it being in the
testicles is only a coincidence and it's
just a skin problem a dermatologist can
help with. Or perhaps a nerve issue that
a neurologist should examine.
6. Are you sweating? Could sweat be an
irritant? Do you swim in chlorinated
water, or have any irritants that you're
exposed to? Even ingesting them would mean
they could come out in sweat, perhaps you
have sensitive skin. (On a side note, and
I mention this not as a solution to your
problem, but just as a general health
warning to everyone. Chlorine is a
carcinogen and a constituent of mustard
gas. You drink it in tap water, and absorb
it in pools and showers, both through your
skin and lungs. So for anyone concerned
with their health, you should get a shower
filter. Google, Shower filter comparisons.
You should find a site that compares them
and tells you how much they reduce
chlorine. The figures are usually far off
what the manufacturer claims. $250 for a
filter that barely reduces chlorine, while
a $60 that lasts a year or more reduces
99%. If you can't find the comparison, be
sure to look up Vitashower because it's
one of the two that did the best. It uses
vitamins to dechlorinate.) Another thing
to look at is the material. Did you buy
new underwear before you began having the
problem? Do you have different underwear
with different materials you can try for
days at a time? What about your detergent,
did you switch detergents? A good
detergent to use is Dreft, which is used
for babies. It contains enzymes and no
harsh chemicals that can cause irritation
or a breakdown of the elastic in your
underwear which can then irritate the
skin.
Do you think it's a heat issue? I mean,
everyone feels heat so your reaction isn't
normal, but it could provide relief. See
what happens when you try to stay cool in
that area. Fan, cool water, ice, whatever.
Just don't go to an extreme of cold, just
see how less heat effects you.
When your testicle touches your thigh and
"feel some discomfort there as well..." Do
you mean your thigh gets discomfort?
Probably not, I just was confused with
your use of "there." However, that may cut
out fabric cause but not completely, but
it may mean sweat or heat is an issue.
Left side pain with testicles is common.
Strange, especially since your case is so
different (maybe it's not that different
though, as you have a new description of
your problem that could help your doctor
lead to a conclusion). In terms of
varicoceles it's usually because of the
circulatory system, heart on the left side
and the way the vessels and veins form.
Even people without varicoceles may have
more vessels on the left though, so
perhaps somehow that plays a role in left
sided pain for men with testicle issues.
Your welcome. I don't feel like I've given
any direct help, but it may have given you
some avenues. It may also give you new
questions and keep you asking
questions(hopefully not too many. I find
myself to be overly analytical and it
leads me off a path sometimes as I'm too
confused). Don't give up, find relief no
matter what it takes. Everything has a
cause, known or not, find it, or at least
relief.
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Peter-B
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 2 Location: ,
Just An Idea. Posted: 11-02-07 22:21pm
I had the kind of pain and discomfort you
talded about for years on and off. After
much wasted time with many doctors and
even an unnecessary operation I had one
suggest that it could be an allergic
reaction to some foods. I ate dry roasted
peanuts. about 2 or 3 big jars a week. I
stopped eating or drinking one thing at a
time for about 1 week. When I quit eating
the peanuts the problem got allot better
and when I quit coffee, it went away. You
may not have a food allergy but things
like coffee, MSG,chocolate,and nuts have
been a problem for me. Pete.