chick1978
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Why??
Posted: 04-12-07 23:47pm
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Why, in this day and age, are we so
readily able to accept the ending of a
life in the womb??
It seems because it is legal to have an
abortion, that some women think of
abortion as just a "procedure"? Is this
to soften the actual truth, that women who
have abortions are ending a life?
Ok then, I am waiting for the pro choicers
to shoot me down and, tell me how it
really is. That the right to exercise
their right to "choose" is important. BS!!
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Fasttricky
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I Don't Know!
Posted: 04-12-07 23:49pm
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Some women are s luts and just don't know
when to keep their promiscuous person tty
legs shut!!
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Tylanas
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Posted: 04-13-07 00:02am
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In this modern day and age, not everyone
is christian nor do they adhere to
christian-like philosophies.
Women, in this day and age, finally have
freedom over their body.
We ladies have the right to have sex when
we want it and as often as we want.
We have the right to control our bodies
too; and this includes removing unwanted
parasites from our wombs.
Women these days know about life, and they
do not all adhere to the ancient mythic
traditions of spiritual christianity. They
are not held down by false, ancient,
science-less interpretations of
procreation and human development.
Just as we no longer believe the globe is
flat; just as we no longer think the sun
revolves around us; so now we also know
that there is not a fully grown little
person inside the womb.
As science develops, we learn more and
more about the development of a fetus. We
learn when it feels pain for the first
time; we learn how it develops and what it
is capable of at each stage.
When this fetus is a wanted child, then it
is the miracle of biology. It is the
wonder of evolution.
When this child is unwanted, it can be a
noose on a young woman's neck. It can be
the tolling of the death bell; it can earn
her a social stigma; it can ruin her
life.
But there is a light: she has control over
her body. She can chose to give birth and
give the child up for adoption... but if
she knows about the horrors of adoption,
if she knows that preventing pain is more
important than soothing it; if she
believes that an ounce of prevention is
worth a pound of cure... if she knows
these things, then she has the human right
to chose abortion.
Human rights... yes, abortion is a human
right.
And I am thankful for it.
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jenn_smithson
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Re: Why??
Posted: 04-13-07 01:04am
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| chick1978
wrote: | | Why, in this day and age,
are we so readily able to accept the
ending of a life in the
womb?? |
Because we are unable to
accept the needless, unnecessary loss of
.actual .women's lives through unsafe,
illegal abortion attempts.
Putting emphasis on life should not come
at the expense of the life that already
does exist - the .woman.
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tr> | It seems because
it is legal to have an abortion, that
some women think of abortion as just a
"procedure"? |
For some .women, it is
just a procedure. For others it's not.
Who are any of us to decide which .women's
experiences are legitimate and which are
not? For me, it was just a procedure. A
life saving, life affirming procedure.
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tr> | Is this to
soften the actual truth, that women who
have abortions are ending a
life? |
.women know what they are
doing, it's not a mystery or a secret.
Many .women make their peace with what
they are doing because they feel they have
no other viable choice. For them, they
are compelled through their circumstances
to have an abortion. If you don't want
them to obtain an abortion, you have to
change their circumstances in real,
substantial ways. Real, lasting change
has to occur in order to allow women
viable alternatives to abortions.
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tr> | Ok then, I am
waiting for the pro choicers to shoot me
down and, tell me how it really is. That
the right to exercise their right to
"choose" is important.
BS!! |
All of our rights are
important and they can be vitally
important to us when we are oppressed and
unable to exersize them. Someone you know
may need a choice - I did when I thought I
would never be in that position.
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nightangel73
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Re: Why??
Posted: 04-13-07 06:04am
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| chick1978
wrote: | Why, in this day and age,
are we so readily able to accept the
ending of a life in the womb??
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because people nowadays want everything
easy.
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Critizin
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Posted: 04-13-07 06:14am
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I actually think it shouldnt matter to you
what other women do with there unborn
babies if you believe it is not right to
have abortions well keep it to your self
and make the choice not to have one dont
bash on other peoples believes to have
abortion there are many reasons why a
woman would want to have an abortion....
so next time before you post think of
those reasons..
good day!
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:26am
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| Eiri
wrote: |
We have the right to control our bodies
too; and this includes removing unwanted
parasites from our wombs.
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Oh, my word, this is such a vulgar way to
describe the most wonderful thing a woman
can be blessed with. I am guessing that
you will never want a child the way you
talk about a child growing in the uterus.
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Critizin
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:35am
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guest..... when a fetus is not fully grown
it has no feelings it has no pain it is
fact a parasite living off you.... -_-
good day!
Last edited by Critizin on 04-13-07 08:51am; edited 1 time in total
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:41am
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i think the oridginal poster needs to sit
and think long and hard about this. I
don't particularly like abortion and it's
not something that i would personally do
but we have a choice on how we treat our
bodies. if the choice of abortion is
available then why shouldn't women take it
if they don't want to have a child? Like i
said i don't think it's a particularly
nice thing to do but if other people want
to have abortions then who are we to stop
them, they have a brain, they can think
for themselves
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Critizin
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:42am
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^^ Tru dat
Thats what i was trying to get across...
do what you want to do but dont tell other
people what to do they will do what they
want to do no matter what you say so get
off there back
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chick1978
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:43am
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| Dannzibelle
wrote: | | i think the oridginal poster
needs to sit and think long and hard about
this. I don't particularly like abortion
and it's not something that i would
personally do but we have a choice on how
we treat our bodies. if the choice of
abortion is available then why shouldn't
women take it if they don't want to have a
child? Like i said i don't think it's a
particularly nice thing to do but if other
people want to have abortions then who are
we to stop them, they have a brain, they
can think for
themselves |
Just because a woman is able to make
choices, doesn't make every choice she
make. "moral"!
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:44am
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| Critizin
wrote: | ^^ Tru dat
Thats what i was trying to get across...
do what you want to do but dont tell other
people what to do they will do what they
want to do no matter what you say so get
off there
back |
Although i have to say that i don't agree
with the parasite s=comment you made. I
myself am 30 weeks pregnant and think that
you will find that in the final trimester
it is proven that a baby can feel pain.
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:48am
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| chick1978
wrote: | | Dannzibelle
wrote: | | i think the oridginal poster
needs to sit and think long and hard about
this. I don't particularly like abortion
and it's not something that i would
personally do but we have a choice on how
we treat our bodies. if the choice of
abortion is available then why shouldn't
women take it if they don't want to have a
child? Like i said i don't think it's a
particularly nice thing to do but if other
people want to have abortions then who are
we to stop them, they have a brain, they
can think for
themselves |
Just because a woman is able to make
choices, doesn't make every choice she
make.
"moral"! |
people have differnt opinions to what is
moral for themselves
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Jules
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:50am
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| Critizin
wrote: | | guest..... when a fetus is
not fully grown it is not
living |
Why does it need to be killed in
order to terminate the pregnancy then -
unless it is living in the first place? I
think you might have your facts a bit
mixed up...
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Critizin
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:51am
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Yes but there is a certain time limit on
when u can get an abortion after that u
cant.. dont know what its but i take that
comment back sorry if it offended anyone i
just call it a fetus lol
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:52am
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| Critizin
wrote: | Yes but there is a certain
time limit on when u can get an abortion
after that u cant.. dont know what its but
i take that comment back sorry if it
offended anyone i just call it a fetus
lol |
Callign ababy a fetus doesn't offend me in
any way because medically that is what my
baby is. Some people take it as offense
but i don't
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Critizin
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Posted: 04-13-07 08:53am
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lol sorry that was a typing error and what
i ment was it doesnt feel or think
anything at that stage.... xD anyways im
off this subject since i am no expert on
being pregnant and abortions i am just a
mere guy of 18 trying to put his own 2
cents in the situation lol
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louixx
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Why
Posted: 04-13-07 09:07am
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women have choices and some choices women
make can be the hardest they have to make
I would never have an abortion by choice
but 8 years ago I had to have one because
my baby stopped developing inside of me
and they had to take it away I was 16
weeks so does that make it a baby i think
so.
But a lot of young girls out there do fall
pregant for what ever reason and they are
still only children themselves I agree
with alot that has been said and everyone
will have there reasons for abortion and
its them that have to live with it for the
rest of there life i no that i remember
the day i went for my scan and the day
they took my baby a way from me and i
still have a cry but it was not my choice
and I could never make that choice and i
some times wonder how hard it must be (but
then again some people use it as a form of
birth control which I do think It is wrong
people like that should be sterilized)
thanks
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Dannzibelle
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Re: Why
Posted: 04-13-07 09:16am
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| louixx
wrote: | women have choices and some
choices women make can be the hardest they
have to make I would never have an
abortion by choice but 8 years ago I had
to have one because my baby stopped
developing inside of me and they had to
take it away I was 16 weeks so does that
make it a baby i think so.
But a lot of young girls out there do fall
pregant for what ever reason and they are
still only children themselves I agree
with alot that has been said and everyone
will have there reasons for abortion and
its them that have to live with it for the
rest of there life i no that i remember
the day i went for my scan and the day
they took my baby a way from me and i
still have a cry but it was not my choice
and I could never make that choice and i
some times wonder how hard it must be (but
then again some people use it as a form of
birth control which I do think It is wrong
people like that should be sterilized)
thanks |
Just out of interest what did you mean
abotu young girls getting pregnant?
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Re: I Don't Know!
Posted: 04-13-07 09:20am
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| Fasttricky
wrote: | | Some women are s luts and
just don't know when to keep their highly
available tty legs
shut!! |
Umm, this probably deserves no response,
but here you go anyway...
I would hazard a guess that "some women"
who become pregnant do so not through
loose morals or inattention, but plain bad
luck (or good luck-depends on how you see
it). People who use birth control get
pregnant. People who are in commited
relationships become pregnant. People who
have had their tubes tied can become
pregnant. Nothing is fail safe.
Certainly these "s luts" become pregnant
by coyly cajoling some poor unexpecting
virginal adolescent to come and have sex
with her for the purpose of becoming
pregnant and then throwing up her hands
and saying "oh what shall I do?" It
certainly has nothing to do with males
asking them for sex. it certainly has
nothing to do with the media worship of
the nude female body and the sexualization
of youth at a younger and younger age. it
has nothing to do with the signals
children receive from television and
movies. It has nothing to do with
adolescent double standards which dictate
that if a girl sleeps with someone she is
a promiscuous person. If she doesn't then
she is stuck up, and becomes unpopular.
What we need is more eduacation and fewer
imbeciles calling sexually active women "s
luts".
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