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| Dannzibelle
wrote: | | chick1978
wrote: | | Dannzibelle
wrote: | | i think the oridginal poster
needs to sit and think long and hard about
this. I don't particularly like abortion
and it's not something that i would
personally do but we have a choice on how
we treat our bodies. if the choice of
abortion is available then why shouldn't
women take it if they don't want to have a
child? Like i said i don't think it's a
particularly nice thing to do but if other
people want to have abortions then who are
we to stop them, they have a brain, they
can think for
themselves |
Just because a woman is able to make
choices, doesn't make every choice she
make.
"moral"! |
people have differnt opinions to what is
moral for
themselves |
Morals should be a basic standard we
uphold for ourselves. Killing a life, yes
a life that is actually living inside of
you, is wrong!
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Posted: 04-13-07 09:31am
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| Anonymous
wrote: | | Dannzibelle
wrote: | | chick1978
wrote: | | Dannzibelle
wrote: | | i think the oridginal poster
needs to sit and think long and hard about
this. I don't particularly like abortion
and it's not something that i would
personally do but we have a choice on how
we treat our bodies. if the choice of
abortion is available then why shouldn't
women take it if they don't want to have a
child? Like i said i don't think it's a
particularly nice thing to do but if other
people want to have abortions then who are
we to stop them, they have a brain, they
can think for
themselves |
Just because a woman is able to make
choices, doesn't make every choice she
make.
"moral"! |
people have differnt opinions to what is
moral for
themselves |
Hey i'm not saying that i don't agree with
you! I'm 30 weeks pregnant and would have
never dreamt of having her aborted. But
you have to face up to the fact that for
some people abortion isn't morally wrong.
Morals should be a basic standard we
uphold for ourselves. Killing a life, yes
a life that is actually living inside of
you, is
wrong! |
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Posted: 04-13-07 10:55am
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| chick1978
wrote: | | Dannzibelle
wrote: | | i think the oridginal poster
needs to sit and think long and hard about
this. I don't particularly like abortion
and it's not something that i would
personally do but we have a choice on how
we treat our bodies. if the choice of
abortion is available then why shouldn't
women take it if they don't want to have a
child? Like i said i don't think it's a
particularly nice thing to do but if other
people want to have abortions then who are
we to stop them, they have a brain, they
can think for
themselves |
Just because a woman is able to make
choices, doesn't make every choice she
make.
"moral"! |
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Posted: 04-13-07 11:05am
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| jenn_smithson
wrote: | | chick1978
wrote: | | Dannzibelle
wrote: | | i think the oridginal poster
needs to sit and think long and hard about
this. I don't particularly like abortion
and it's not something that i would
personally do but we have a choice on how
we treat our bodies. if the choice of
abortion is available then why shouldn't
women take it if they don't want to have a
child? Like i said i don't think it's a
particularly nice thing to do but if other
people want to have abortions then who are
we to stop them, they have a brain, they
can think for
themselves |
Just because a woman is able to make
choices, doesn't make every choice she
make.
"moral"! |
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Whatever, people are going to belive their
decision to abort a child is ok, that the
child they have in their womb is a
"parasite" because it suits their
lifestyle at that particular time. Later
down the line when it suits them, they
want a child, it is no longer a parasite,
but a wonderful little child.....
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Posted: 04-13-07 11:31am
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sorry if it sounded like i sasid that its
young girls that get themselves pregnant
and then had abortions i didnt mean it
like that I no there are women out there
having abortions at all ages but it must
be hard for younger women out there having
to make such a big diccision at there
young age I was 19 when I had my first
child and I knew straight away that I was
having my baby but there are some young
women out there that have not got the
support from there families were i mwas
lucky i did
and they have to make really hard
decisions I dont like abortions but that
is for me and if my daughter came in and
said that she was pregnant i would not
throw my appinions at her she would have
to make her own choices but would have my
full support what ever her choice.
sorry once again if my last comment came
across wrong
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Posted: 04-13-07 11:36am
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| Anonymous
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Whatever, people are going to belive their
decision to abort a child is ok, that the
child they have in their womb is a
"parasite" because it suits their
lifestyle at that particular time. Later
down the line when it suits them, they
want a child, it is no longer a parasite,
but a wonderful little
child..... |
For me, it was the moral decision to save
my life. I don't care if you agree or
not. Suffice it to say, however, that if
you don't agree that I have a moral
imperative to save my own life then you
are a sadist.
Further, the symbiotic relationship
between the .woman and a fetus is more
parasitic than it is anything else. It is
not mutually beneficial and in many cases
can actually prove to be deadly for one or
both. The fetus draws resources from the
woman's body during a pregnancy and since
only the woman owns her own body, she is
the only one who can decide to continue
sacrificing resources or to withdraw her
support. On the other hand natural
miscarriages, or spontaneous abortions,
occur because our bodies fight the
presence of the "wonderful little child"
from the moment of implantation.
And, I have known many, many
women who felt as though they were host to
a parasite when they became pregnant even
after they decided to keep the pregnancy.
Pregnancy is not to be underestimated, it
can be a time of personal hell for a lot
of women. After birth they may be happy
and satisfied because they finally do have
their child but before that they felt
very, very differently toward the
pregnancy.
Finally, abortions are not obtained for
convenience a vast majority of the time.
Women do have real reasons why they
choose an abortion over remaining
pregnant. In many cases, if you were
forced to live in their shoes you may find
yourself choosing the same course of
action. Someone you know may need a
choice - I did. I never thought I would
until I did.
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Posted: 04-13-07 12:33pm
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| Anonymous
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We have the right to control our bodies
too; and this includes removing unwanted
parasites from our wombs.
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Oh, my word, this is such a vulgar way to
describe the most wonderful thing a woman
can be blessed with. I am guessing that
you will never want a child the way you
talk about a child growing in the
uterus. |
I have a scientific mind actually, and
scientifically, a fetus is a parasite.
However, I find the whole process
beautiful... But I find an unwanted
pregnancy terrifying.
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Posted: 04-13-07 13:15pm
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| louixx
wrote: | sorry if it sounded like i
sasid that its young girls that get
themselves pregnant and then had abortions
i didnt mean it like that I no there are
women out there having abortions at all
ages but it must be hard for younger women
out there having to make such a big
diccision at there young age I was 19 when
I had my first child and I knew straight
away that I was having my baby but there
are some young women out there that have
not got the support from there families
were i mwas lucky i did
and they have to make really hard
decisions I dont like abortions but that
is for me and if my daughter came in and
said that she was pregnant i would not
throw my appinions at her she would have
to make her own choices but would have my
full support what ever her choice.
sorry once again if my last comment came
across wrong |
I'm with you now i just thought i would
check because i'm 15 and 30 weeks pregnant
so understandably get mad when people
suggest that all teen mothers should have
abortions and i wasn't sure if you were
suggesting that or not
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Posted: 04-13-07 18:54pm
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"In this modern day and age, not everyone
is christian nor do they adhere to
christian-like philosophies.
Women, in this day and age, finally have
freedom over their body. "
In this modern day and age is it not
acceptable to expect that women would have
more respect for themselves?
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Posted: 04-13-07 20:57pm
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| Anonymous
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is it not acceptable to expect that women
would have more respect for
themselves? |
It used to be matter of course, when there
was no choice, that women were not
respected for their contributions anywhere
other than what came from their uterus'.
Thank the divine we can be respected for
what we choose, not what happens by
chance. Pregnancy is a biologic ability,
not necessarily destiny.
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Posted: 04-14-07 11:42am
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no problem hope everything goes well for
you you sound very mature for your age
enjoy being a mam its hard but rewarding
good luck not long to go. loui
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Posted: 04-15-07 01:55am
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| Dannzibelle
wrote: | | Critizin
wrote: | ^^ Tru dat
Thats what i was trying to get across...
do what you want to do but dont tell other
people what to do they will do what they
want to do no matter what you say so get
off there
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Although i have to say that i don't agree
with the parasite s=comment you made. I
myself am 30 weeks pregnant and think that
you will find that in the final trimester
it is proven that a baby can feel
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For god's sake, yes; we already know this.
No one has ever debated that in the later
stage of pregnancy, the fetus surely does
feel pain.
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Posted: 04-15-07 12:08pm
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| Eiri
wrote: | | Dannzibelle
wrote: | | Critizin
wrote: | ^^ Tru dat
Thats what i was trying to get across...
do what you want to do but dont tell other
people what to do they will do what they
want to do no matter what you say so get
off there
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Although i have to say that i don't agree
with the parasite s=comment you made. I
myself am 30 weeks pregnant and think that
you will find that in the final trimester
it is proven that a baby can feel
pain. |
For god's sake, yes; we already know this.
No one has ever debated that in the later
stage of pregnancy, the fetus surely does
feel pain. |
It has been debated and many
scientists still believe that pain is only
achieved at birth. I totally agree with
you, however, on what you said to the
original poster.
As for 'having the right to remove an
unwanted parasite from your womb', there
is nothing vulgar about it! It's the
truth, in its most succinct, perhaps basic
form!
Kypros.
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The bottom line in this conversation will
lead into another topic. The truth of the
matter is. If you want to go to hell Kill
your baby! One that is either already born
or one that is not. It is still killing.
If a fetus was not killed it would turn
into a living human being.. Thus you are
taken a life.. No if's, ands, or buts
about that one!!!
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| meblonde01
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conversation will lead into another topic.
The truth of the matter is. If you want to
go to hell Kill your baby! One that is
either already born or one that is not. It
is still killing. If a fetus was not
killed it would turn into a living human
being.. Thus you are taken a life.. No
if's, ands, or buts about that
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Hell does not exist. You cannot convince
me that there is a cave large enough
inside of the planet to hold every single
human that has died unsaved, nor can you
convince me there is an alternate
dimension they go to.
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maybe it is not a cave but a state of
mind!! HUMMMM ? a hellist metal state of
mind that you live in forever!
Nobody really knows.
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Posted: 04-16-07 12:51pm
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| Eiri
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exist. |
Sorry to be pedantic, but that's a
completely false statement. How do you
know that Hell does not exist?
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| Kypros
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wrote: | | Hell does not
exist. |
Sorry to be pedantic, but that's a
completely false statement. How do you
know that Hell does not
exist? |
Nobody knows if it does or doesn't it is a
matter of personal belief in my opinion
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