Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Stevens Point, WI
the Useless War of the Sexes! Posted: 02-18-04 14:07pm
gender
discrimination and mis-applied roles: it's
like a senseless seesaw, going back and
forth for centuries, in this useless and
loveless "war of the sexes". The 'maker
of all things' created us to love each
other; the females...Created to be the
male's best friends, helping the men to be
the best they can be...Wise, mature &
loving...Obviously neither is doing their
jobs! When we simply and completely
follow the basic blueprint of nature, we
will have a real life of blessings for a
change! Even the smartest animals mate
for life (and support each other); are we
as smart as the animals, [who have no
imagination or romance]
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san54
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 227 Location: Virginia
War of the Sexes Posted: 02-18-04 15:54pm
As long as the male and female treat one
another as equals and not a possession.
We need to put 100% into a relationship,
that means a relationship should take 200%
of a couples time. The x generation or
what ever they are called now only think
of themselves and not of the other person.
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CaptainChurch
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Stevens Point, WI
San54 Posted: 02-18-04 17:54pm
equals as humans
are concerned, but
very different as to the roles god created
for men and women to occupy. The man is
the leader (a tree in strength of love,
purpose & family protection)...A
woman, a flower (delicate, gentle and
lovely, strong in love for her family).
"opposites attract" is a fundamental
concept of god's creation and is apparent
in many of life's forces! Also, each
"own" each other's body, so to
speak...This helps with fidelity or
faithfulness. If married, I don't do
anything with my body or soul [not even
fantasizing about others] that would
jeopardize the relationship, because I
place the highest value on it. If women
today would be help-mates, instead of
trying to be the "guy-boss", they would
have mature, wise loving husbands that
would fulfill every grand desire in the
female heart. As it is, there is no
love, because there are no "men" and
"women"...Just a dysfunctional collection
of lost humans slowing destroying
themselves!.....[here is a 'monograph' on
love that captures the essense of what
should really be desired]........"love was
designed by god for relationships between
himself and his angels & humans, and
between each other. You cannot "love"
yourself...That is why masturbation, with
all its fantasies, is sin...It is
self-centered (which is the fallen sin
condition that eve & adam caused)!
When we are saved by the holy spirit, we
become others-centered like god is, and he
begins to re-create us from the inside out
(unlike "religion" which tries to change
people from the outside in...The core is
still spiritually dead and is just a fake
"veneer"). People use the soulish
"masturbation" excuse that they have to
"love themselves first before they can
love others"....’self-love’….[they usually
never get around to others, in their
life]....And real love wasn't designed to
do that...It was only designed to be spent
on others, like a water cycle! Real love
is what you do for all others that is in
their highest or best interests, anytime,
anywhere, selflessly (24/7)! C. S.
Lewis wrote in mere christianity that "it
is better to forget about yourself
altogether" and focus on all those you
come in contact with, renouncing pride
& self-centeredness, because we can
easily be deceived by the enemy if we
focus on ourselves....He writes "as long
as you are looking down on others (putting
yourself first), you will never see what
is above you"! Christ said that the only
law now is love! At least see to it that
your neighbor (everyone) has it just as
good as you do! 1 corinthians 13:7 the
real thing [love] applied never
fails!!!".....I hope this brings real love
and life to your tribe
jim
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san54
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 227 Location: Virginia
Captainchurch Posted: 02-19-04 12:03pm
You have to love who you are doesn't mean
masturbation. We are not one anothers
possessions. I take my vows of marriage
strongly. I would never do anything to
jeopardize what my husband of 31 years
has. We have had many trials and
tribulations in our marriage that has made
us love one another more and has
strengtened our deep love of jesus christ
as savior. It is people who take
advantage of others lightly and use sex as
a way to get to know someone that ruins
what love really means.
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hotasfrick
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 02-21-04 06:28am
I believe in god full heartedly, but I
also believe that my god does not want me
to be a weak and submissive person.
You can love yourself without
masturbating. And if people "forgot
about themselves" and did whatever to make
the other person happy do you really think
that would make the world a better place?
Oh yeah, wait, you do. I guess the
women who get beat by their husbands
should just stay because it is their "job"
to make the man happy, right?
And from experience, you do have to love
yourself before you can fully love someone
else. If you do not have enough
strength to figure out what it is that you
want from your own life, then you cannot
make someone else happy. When a person
is miserable, they spread misery. Now,
I am not saying to be conceited or think
they are above anyone or anything else,
but you do have to have self respect.
You do not ever "own" someone else.
Ever. Promised, vowelled, in love with,
but never "owned."
yes man was created first. Woman was
created second to keep the man company.
That does not mean that one is stronger or
more important. Nor does it mean that a
woman should stay at home, breed, cook,
clean and raise kids. We were all put
here by god and are being tested. But,
I am sure that my lord and savior is never
ever going to look at me as a male or a
female. I am one of his children, it
really does not matter which sex organs I
have.
Plus, in your line of thinking, what about
hermaphrodites? Hmmmm.
You are only right about one thing: the
war of the sexes is useless. But how
can you say that and then state what you
think a man and a womans "place" is?
Yes, relationships these days rarely ever
last, but that has a lot to do with the
fact that men are still trying to hold
women back. Men have even sunk as low
as to order brides through the mail.
One who does not speak english, or was
raised to think that the only reason she
is here is to serve him. You see, more
and more women are finding their self
worth, and when we all do, I don't know
what men like you will do.
Bottom line, if women were the "weaker,
delicate flower sex" then god would not
have made some of us so intelligent.
People are either smart or stupid. Men
and women. Some are smart, some are
dumb as doornails, but neither has
anything to do with their sex.
Yes people do need to love each other
more. We do need to stop being so
selfish, but it will do not one any good
if we do not take time to care about
ourselves. I really do not think god
has a problem with us caring for, loving,
and appreciating how he made each and
every one of us.
And not ever women is trying to be the
"guy's boss." what about the men who want
to be the "women's boss?" that is the
problem...No one is anyone's boss! And it
does not matter who "wears the pants" or
who works or who cleans. As long as
everything is divided equally and each is
happy, who gives a hoot? Many people
were a whole lot happier when everyone
just accepted things the way that they
were. Now people are trying to blame the
fact that so many marriages are ending in
divorce on the fact that women are
becoming educated and working outside of
the home. Well this could very well be
true. But married or divorced, or
single, who cares as long as the person is
happy? Just because their are more
divorces doesn't mean that things are
falling apart. It is just that more
women are leaving abusive relationships.
(mental and physical) and others are just
not in such a hurry to get married.
Instead of people just jumping into things
(men and women alike) we are educated
enough to try to wait until we find the
right person. Any two people can get
married. But it takes two very special
people to have a satisfying marriage.
There has to be compromise from both
parties involved.
I am not trying to sound ignorant, but I
really do not see how you can state that
the war of the sexes is pointless and then
state everyones "place" it is just not
right.
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