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CaptainChurch

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the Useless War of the Sexes!
Posted: 02-18-04 14:07pm

Arrow gender discrimination and mis-applied roles: it's like a senseless seesaw, going back and forth for centuries, in this useless and loveless "war of the sexes". The 'maker of all things' created us to love each other; the females...Created to be the male's best friends, helping the men to be the best they can be...Wise, mature & loving...Obviously neither is doing their jobs! When we simply and completely follow the basic blueprint of nature, we will have a real life of blessings for a change! Even the smartest animals mate for life (and support each other); are we as smart as the animals, [who have no imagination or romance] Question Idea
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san54

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War of the Sexes
Posted: 02-18-04 15:54pm

As long as the male and female treat one another as equals and not a possession. We need to put 100% into a relationship, that means a relationship should take 200% of a couples time. The x generation or what ever they are called now only think of themselves and not of the other person. Wink
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CaptainChurch

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San54
Posted: 02-18-04 17:54pm

Arrow equals as humans are concerned, but
very different as to the roles god created for men and women to occupy. The man is the leader (a tree in strength of love, purpose & family protection)...A woman, a flower (delicate, gentle and lovely, strong in love for her family). "opposites attract" is a fundamental concept of god's creation and is apparent in many of life's forces! Also, each "own" each other's body, so to speak...This helps with fidelity or faithfulness. If married, I don't do anything with my body or soul [not even fantasizing about others] that would jeopardize the relationship, because I place the highest value on it. If women today would be help-mates, instead of trying to be the "guy-boss", they would have mature, wise loving husbands that would fulfill every grand desire in the female heart. As it is, there is no love, because there are no "men" and "women"...Just a dysfunctional collection of lost humans slowing destroying themselves!.....[here is a 'monograph' on love that captures the essense of what should really be desired]........"love was designed by god for relationships between himself and his angels & humans, and between each other. You cannot "love" yourself...That is why masturbation, with all its fantasies, is sin...It is self-centered (which is the fallen sin condition that eve & adam caused)! When we are saved by the holy spirit, we become others-centered like god is, and he begins to re-create us from the inside out (unlike "religion" which tries to change people from the outside in...The core is still spiritually dead and is just a fake "veneer"). People use the soulish "masturbation" excuse that they have to "love themselves first before they can love others"....’self-love’….[they usually never get around to others, in their life]....And real love wasn't designed to do that...It was only designed to be spent on others, like a water cycle! Real love is what you do for all others that is in their highest or best interests, anytime, anywhere, selflessly Idea (24/7)! C. S. Lewis wrote in mere christianity that "it is better to forget about yourself altogether" and focus on all those you come in contact with, renouncing pride & self-centeredness, because we can easily be deceived by the enemy if we focus on ourselves....He writes "as long as you are looking down on others (putting yourself first), you will never see what is above you"! Christ said that the only law now is love! At least see to it that your neighbor (everyone) has it just as good as you do! 1 corinthians 13:7 the real thing [love] applied never fails!!!".....I hope this brings real love and life to your tribe Exclamation jim
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san54

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Captainchurch
Posted: 02-19-04 12:03pm

You have to love who you are doesn't mean masturbation. We are not one anothers possessions. I take my vows of marriage strongly. I would never do anything to jeopardize what my husband of 31 years has. We have had many trials and tribulations in our marriage that has made us love one another more and has strengtened our deep love of jesus christ as savior. It is people who take advantage of others lightly and use sex as a way to get to know someone that ruins what love really means.
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hotasfrick

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Posted: 02-21-04 06:28am

I believe in god full heartedly, but I also believe that my god does not want me to be a weak and submissive person.
You can love yourself without masturbating. And if people "forgot about themselves" and did whatever to make the other person happy do you really think that would make the world a better place? Oh yeah, wait, you do. I guess the women who get beat by their husbands should just stay because it is their "job" to make the man happy, right?
And from experience, you do have to love yourself before you can fully love someone else. If you do not have enough strength to figure out what it is that you want from your own life, then you cannot make someone else happy. When a person is miserable, they spread misery. Now, I am not saying to be conceited or think they are above anyone or anything else, but you do have to have self respect.

You do not ever "own" someone else. Ever. Promised, vowelled, in love with, but never "owned."
yes man was created first. Woman was created second to keep the man company. That does not mean that one is stronger or more important. Nor does it mean that a woman should stay at home, breed, cook, clean and raise kids. We were all put here by god and are being tested. But, I am sure that my lord and savior is never ever going to look at me as a male or a female. I am one of his children, it really does not matter which sex organs I have.

Plus, in your line of thinking, what about hermaphrodites? Hmmmm.

You are only right about one thing: the war of the sexes is useless. But how can you say that and then state what you think a man and a womans "place" is? Yes, relationships these days rarely ever last, but that has a lot to do with the fact that men are still trying to hold women back. Men have even sunk as low as to order brides through the mail. One who does not speak english, or was raised to think that the only reason she is here is to serve him. You see, more and more women are finding their self worth, and when we all do, I don't know what men like you will do.
Bottom line, if women were the "weaker, delicate flower sex" then god would not have made some of us so intelligent. People are either smart or stupid. Men and women. Some are smart, some are dumb as doornails, but neither has anything to do with their sex.
Yes people do need to love each other more. We do need to stop being so selfish, but it will do not one any good if we do not take time to care about ourselves. I really do not think god has a problem with us caring for, loving, and appreciating how he made each and every one of us.
And not ever women is trying to be the "guy's boss." what about the men who want to be the "women's boss?" that is the problem...No one is anyone's boss! And it does not matter who "wears the pants" or who works or who cleans. As long as everything is divided equally and each is happy, who gives a hoot? Many people were a whole lot happier when everyone just accepted things the way that they were. Now people are trying to blame the fact that so many marriages are ending in divorce on the fact that women are becoming educated and working outside of the home. Well this could very well be true. But married or divorced, or single, who cares as long as the person is happy? Just because their are more divorces doesn't mean that things are falling apart. It is just that more women are leaving abusive relationships. (mental and physical) and others are just not in such a hurry to get married. Instead of people just jumping into things (men and women alike) we are educated enough to try to wait until we find the right person. Any two people can get married. But it takes two very special people to have a satisfying marriage. There has to be compromise from both parties involved.
I am not trying to sound ignorant, but I really do not see how you can state that the war of the sexes is pointless and then state everyones "place" it is just not right.
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