I have heard many times that the choice to
have abortions should remain. But what
are your feelings on women who continually
get pregnant by not using any form of safe
sex and then used abortion as their
contraception?
Just curious!
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Posted: 04-14-07 18:39pm
contraception takes away responibility,
not taking responsiblity for the resulting
child leads to abortion
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Birch
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Re: Contraception Posted: 04-14-07 20:56pm
chick1978
wrote:
I have heard many times that
the choice to have abortions should
remain. But what are your feelings on
women who continually get pregnant by not
using any form of safe sex and then used
abortion as their contraception?
Just curious!
I'd like to see stats on exactly how many
women do this before I answer.
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Posted: 04-16-07 11:32am
I don't think it's particularly common (no
woman 'enjoys' having an abortion) and I
don't think it's very responsible but it's
their choice - I may not personally like
it but that's only my opinion
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Posted: 04-16-07 12:57pm
Moo
wrote:
I don't think it's
particularly common (no woman 'enjoys'
having an abortion) and I don't think it's
very responsible but it's their choice - I
may not personally like it but that's only
my opinion
100% agree with you. Abortion is not
something that i would personally do and i
don't understand why a woman would
continually have unprotected sex if they
don't want a baby but this does happen and
it will do for as long as abortion exists
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Posted: 04-16-07 13:23pm
Dannzibelle
wrote:
100% agree with you.
Abortion is not something that i would
personally do and i don't understand why a
woman
would continually have unprotected sex if
they don't want a baby but this does
happen and it will do for as long as
abortion
exists
And how often does this happen? Does
anyone know, or is this just another
sweeping generalization without any facts
to back it up?
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Posted: 04-16-07 13:25pm
Birch
wrote:
Dannzibelle
wrote:
100% agree with you.
Abortion is not something that i would
personally do and i don't understand why a
woman
would continually have unprotected sex if
they don't want a baby but this does
happen and it will do for as long as
abortion
exists
And how often does this happen? Does
anyone know, or is this just another
sweeping generalization without any facts
to back it
up?
It's not hard facts or stats but i know of
one girl who's had 3 and two otheres who
have had 2
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Posted: 04-16-07 13:36pm
Dannzibelle
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
Dannzibelle
wrote:
100% agree with you.
Abortion is not something that i would
personally do and i don't understand why a
woman
would continually have unprotected sex if
they don't want a baby but this does
happen and it will do for as long as
abortion
exists
And how often does this happen? Does
anyone know, or is this just another
sweeping generalization without any facts
to back it
up?
It's not hard facts or stats but i know of
one girl who's had 3 and two otheres who
have had 2
Why do you think these girls have had
multiple abortions?
No access to birth control?
Self esteem issues?
Poor parental involvement?
Uneducated?
Birth control failed?
Do not see abortion as the evil entity
many in society do?
Coercion by boyfriend/family?
There's a plethora of reasons women/girls
may have multiple abortions. Since you
said "I don't understand why" I'm trying
to point out some reasons.
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Posted: 04-16-07 13:58pm
Dannzibelle
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
Dannzibelle
wrote:
100% agree with you.
Abortion is not something that i would
personally do and i don't understand why a
woman
would continually have unprotected sex if
they don't want a baby but this does
happen and it will do for as long as
abortion
exists
And how often does this happen? Does
anyone know, or is this just another
sweeping generalization without any facts
to back it
up?
It's not hard facts or stats but i know of
one girl who's had 3 and two otheres who
have had 2
I posted on this a while ago, but my
friend goes to school with this girl who
is on her 8th pregnancy and is trying to
decide "what to do with it". She has one
child and ever since she had the baby, she
has gotten pregnant another 7 times and
has aborted the last 6 and about to abort
her 7th. She is only 19, and all of the
fathers are different guys. I don't know
this girl other than what my friend has
told me, but she doesn't use any kind of
birth control. It's not because she can't
afford it, but she just doesn't choose to
use it.
I do not agree with this, just because
this girl is obviously using abortion as a
form of birth control. Who knows what
will happen when she actually wants to
have another child, she probably will not
be able to.
I don't know how common this practice is,
as I just know one person who has had this
many abortions. I also know two other
girls - one has had 2 abortions and the
other has had three.
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Posted: 04-16-07 15:13pm
*star*
wrote:
I do not agree with this, just because
this girl is obviously using abortion as a
form of birth
control.
Would you want this same
young woman to have 7 children to care
for? Or would you not only compell her to
keep the pregnancies but also compell her
to relinquish the resulting child at the
end of the pregnancies?
People always say the same thing, "I don't
believe in abortion being used as birth
control" and for the majority, it's not.
But for those very, very
rare women, whose circumstances are
unknown to us, would we really deny her
choice of an abortion if we could? Think
about it, if you could deny abortions when
no birth control or contraception was
used, are these really the people you want
becomming parents?! Yikes!
Quote:
Who knows what
will happen when she actually wants to
have another child, she probably will not
be able to.
She has to have quite a
bit more to be worried about infertility.
Quote:
I don't know how
common this practice is, as I just know
one person who has had this many
abortions. I also know two other girls -
one has had 2 abortions and the other has
had three.
And you know all of their
circumstances to make the decision that
they were just using abortion as birth
control?
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Posted: 04-16-07 15:34pm
jenn_smithson
wrote:
*star*
wrote:
I do not agree with this, just because
this girl is obviously using abortion as a
form of birth
control.
Would you want this same
young woman to have 7 children to care
for? Or would you not only compell her to
keep the pregnancies but also compell her
to relinquish the resulting child at the
end of the pregnancies?.
No, I would compell her to go to planned
parenthood to get on some birth control so
that it wouldn't happen again.
jenn_smithson
wrote:
[People always say the same
thing, "I don't believe in abortion being
used as birth control" and for the
majority, it's not.
I realize that not everyone uses abortion
as birth control and never said that they
did. I am not against abortion though I
would not have one myself, but after say
the third or fourth time it "Happened" I
might look at the situation and say "hey
maybe there is a way that I can prevent
myself from getting pregnant so I wouldn't
have to spend a small fortune on these
abortions..." Just a thought...
jenn_smithson
wrote:
*star*
wrote:
Who knows what will happen
when she actually wants to have another
child, she probably will not be able to.
She has to have quite a
bit more to be worried about infertility.
So are you saying that
it is perfectly normal and causes no harm
to your body to continue having so many
abortions at such a young age? I didn't
say that it would cause infertility, I was
refering to the fact that she might have a
hard time carrying a baby full term.
jenn_smithson
wrote:
*star*
wrote:
I don't know how common this
practice is, as I just know one person who
has had this many abortions. I also know
two other girls - one has had 2 abortions
and the other has had
three.
And you know all of their
circumstances to make the decision that
they were just using abortion as birth
control?
You are just fishing for some kind of an
arguement here and frankly I don't
understand why. At what point did I say
that I know all of their circumstances????
I was simply refering to the previous
post asking how common it was. I never
said that I thought it was common, I was
simply refering to .O.N.E person that I
knew of that was doing that.
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Posted: 04-16-07 15:57pm
I have had 3 abortions myself, and I am a
health care professional.
Not everyone can use hormonal methods of
BC, and yes, I did pregnant with an
.I.U.D.
Abortion is more expensive than
contraception, but it is still a viable
option for women that do become pregnant.
Some women can only use condoms, and
condoms are not nearly as effective as the
pill, but again, some women cannot use
hormonal BC methods at all.
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Posted: 04-16-07 16:07pm
Carifairy
wrote:
Not everyone can use hormonal methods of
BC, and yes, I did pregnant with an
.I.U.D.
Some women can only use condoms, and
condoms are not nearly as effective as the
pill, but again, some women cannot use
hormonal BC methods at
all.
You are right! I have two close friends
that are unable to take hormonal BC pills.
It messes with their bodies and they just
can't handle the side effects. My best
friend in high school would get sick and
throw up when she was on them and missed
taking her pill by even an hour... That's
not normal.
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I think a major point is that
abortion-as-birth-control is not common
and if it is done it normally has a good
reason.
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I think *any* reason is a good reason.
I am well off financially, have a great
house, and wonderful husband, yet my
reasons for abortion are because I do not
want kids.
Some women want to wait for personal
reasons, even though to outsiders it looks
like 'we' can afford kids.
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Posted: 04-16-07 22:46pm
*star*
wrote:
Carifairy
wrote:
Not everyone can use hormonal methods of
BC, and yes, I did pregnant with an
.I.U.D.
Some women can only use condoms, and
condoms are not nearly as effective as the
pill, but again, some women cannot use
hormonal BC methods at
all.
You are right! I have two close friends
that are unable to take hormonal BC pills.
It messes with their bodies and they just
can't handle the side effects. My best
friend in high school would get sick and
throw up when she was on them and missed
taking her pill by even an hour... That's
not normal.
those are few cases given the huge
availiability of different forms of bc.
There is the copper iud that has no
hormones and if that one is not possible
there is always tubal ligation. That's
what my cousin did since she had reactions
with the pills.
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Posted: 04-16-07 22:50pm
Carifairy
wrote:
I think *any* reason is a
good reason.
I am well off financially, have a great
house, and wonderful husband, yet my
reasons for abortion are because I do not
want kids.
Some women want to wait for personal
reasons, even though to outsiders it looks
like 'we' can afford
kids.
carifairy given you are in the health care
system, still they don't allow you to have
tubal ligation?
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Posted: 04-16-07 23:14pm
[quote="Carifairy"]I think *any* reason is
a good reason.
I am well off financially, have a great
house, and wonderful husband, quote]
Well, I am not surprised you are well off
financially, all women who have had
abortions must pay a hefty fee for an
abortion. Lots of profit to be had in
abortions....
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Posted: 04-16-07 23:18pm
[quote="barbdwyer"]
Carifairy
wrote:
I think *any* reason is a
good reason.
I am well off financially, have a great
house, and wonderful husband, quote]
Well, I am not surprised you are well off
financially, all women who have had
abortions must pay a hefty fee for an
abortion. Lots of profit to be had in
abortions....
My thoughts entirely!
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[quote="chick1978"]
barbdwyer
wrote:
Carifairy
wrote:
I think *any* reason is a
good reason.
I am well off financially, have a great
house, and wonderful husband, quote]
Well, I am not surprised you are well off
financially, all women who have had
abortions must pay a hefty fee for an
abortion. Lots of profit to be had in
abortions....
My thoughts
entirely!
You're idiots. There are many poor women
who have abortions.
