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milz123
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Is This Chron's Disease Desperate For Some Help
Posted: 04-16-07 12:49pm
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im 15 years old and have had constant pain
on right lower abdominal pain that
sometimes spreads to top of my stomach. I
get severe diarrhea everyday which
sometimes contains some mucus. ive had
these pains for 3 months now the doctors
thought i had appendicitas and took them
out results showed it was only mildly
inflammed and as no reason to take them
out i have dropped a stone and half in 3
months and becoming more ill i get a fever
every now and again my temp goes up to
39c. Doctors think it could be ulcerative
colitas or chron's but its takin so long
to diagnois it! im waiting for a endoscopy
do they hurt and what do they do lots of
people are realy putting me off! im in
sooo much pain that my life is going to
pecies im constantly tired and moody and
im missing so much schoool work where i
can only do like 2 days a week becuase i
would be in so much pain im in the middle
of doin coursework for gcse's aswell
please if anyone could help i was greatly
appreciate it please help! im desperate to
have some advice thanks
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 04-16-07 12:55pm
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I have had a couple of endoscopies, which
are a no-sweat kind of procedure here in
the US. they sedate you for them. i have
heard that they don't sedate people in
some other countries for these. you might
ask for this. I have Celiac disease,
which they thought might be crohn's or
ulcerative colitis. I had horrible
cramping and the foulest diarrhea in the
land. My loving and thoughtful husband
used to call me "swamp-butt". Anyway, I
went on the gluten free diet and it saved
me. I weighed 80 pounds at 5 feet tall
and was tired and ill all of the time.
now I am healthy and would have a decent
amount of energy if it weren't for my two
children!
Good luck and let us know how it turned
out.
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milz123
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Posted: 04-17-07 10:13am
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thank you for the reply i was just
wondering if you knew anything about
chrons and ulcerative colitas and with the
celiac disease what symptoms did you get
and what treatment did you need? did they
tell from the endoscopies that you had
celiac disease? please reply thanks for
your help so far
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 04-17-07 16:10pm
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An endoscopy can tell whether you have
problems in the esophagus, stomach, and
the upper part of the small intestine. If
you have Celiac disease, it would be
apparant on this test. If you have
Ulcerative Colitis or Crohn's disease, and
your lesions appear in this area, it would
be apparant. However, if there are
lesions lower in the small or large
intestine, then you would need another
test to detect them. Usually a barium
swallow test is then performed.
Celiac disease has classic symptoms of
cramping, bloating, diarrhea, pain,
fatigue, weakness, god-awful flatulence,
weight loss, and nausea. Other symptoms
may include constipation, vomiting,
reflux, weight gain. The treatment for
Celiac disease is to follow a 100% strict
gluten free diet. This is the only
treatment necessary. If you do test
positive for this, there are some
additional tests which need to be
performed to rule out some related
conditions.
I hope this info is useful to you, and I
hope your test goes well.
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milz123
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Posted: 04-23-07 05:37am
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thank you for that information im really
worried i woke up this morning with bad
mucus and blood in my stoool someone help
im really worried!
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milz123
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Posted: 05-10-07 07:55am
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hi i was recently addmitted into hospital
and was in their for 2 weeks as i was
really ill i had a colnoscopy done and the
doctor took 7 biopsies he said he could
see some inflammation to the colon but
when the results come back it come back
negative? im really confused. With the
celiac disease does it show up on a
colonoscopy or would it show up with the
camera going down the throat i have found
that certain food trigger of my diarrhea
so could you give me some information on
what i could suggest to the doctor to do
next? i would greatly appreciate any
replys!
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 05-10-07 09:33am
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It can't be seen on colonoscopy, only
endoscopy. there are blood tests as well.
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milz123
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Posted: 05-10-07 09:40am
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o ok thanks do you think i should have a
endoscopy done? and when they do a full
work of blood do the blood tests to show
celiac disease included with this?
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 05-10-07 10:02am
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well, you could ask them to test for
celiac with endoscopy. The blood tests
that they do are detailed below:
Anti-tissue Transglutaminase Antibody
(tTG), IgA: Tissue transglutaminase is an
enzyme responsible for crosslinking
certain proteins. Although “tissue” is
in the name of this autoantibody, it
nevertheless involves testing blood and
not tissue since the autoantibody is found
in the blood. A few laboratories also
offer tests to detect IgG anti-tTg.
Anti-Gliadin Antibodies (AGA), IgG and
IgA: Gliadin is part of the gluten protein
found in wheat (similar proteins are found
in rye, barley, and oats). AGA is an
autoantibody against the gliadin portion.
Two other tests that are now rarely used:
Anti-Endomysial Antibodies (EMA), IgA:
Endomysium is the thin connective tissue
layer that covers individual muscle
fibers. Anti-Endomysial antibodies are
developed in reaction to the ongoing
damage to the intestinal lining. It has
been found that tTg is the substance
detected in this test. Almost 100% of
patients with active celiac disease and
70% of patients with dermatitis
herpetiformis (another gluten-sensitive
condition that causes an itchy, burning,
blistering rash on the skin) will have
Anti-EMA, IgA antibodies. The test is more
difficult to do and interpret properly
than anti-tTg.
Anti-Reticulin Antibodies (ARA), IgA:
Anti-ARA is not as specific or sensitive
as the other autoantibodies. It is found
in about 60% of celiac disease patients
and about 25% of patients with dermatitis
herpetiformis.
Each of the celiac blood tests measures
the amount of a particular autoantibody in
the blood. For each test, both IgG
(Immunoglobulin G) and IgA (Immunoglobulin
A) antibodies can be measured; however,
few laboratories offer IgG tests other
than for gliadin. IgG and IgA are two of
the five classes of antibody proteins that
the immune system creates in response to a
perceived threat.
In general, the IgA antibody is more
specific for celiac disease (since IgA is
the type of antibody made in the
intestine) and is measured almost
exclusively. IgG versions may be ordered
either to complement the IgA testing
and/or ordered because someone has an
overall deficiency in IgA. This happens
about 2% of the time with celiac disease
and can lead to some false negative test
results.
There are now genetic tests for Celiac,
but most insurances don't cover it.
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milz123
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Posted: 05-10-07 10:36am
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thanks for the information but my mum
phoned the doctor and to mention celiac
disease but he said he tested it from the
colnoscopy and it come back negative looks
like ill just have to stick with this for
the rest of my life.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 05-10-07 10:44am
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You can't test for celiac with a
colonoscopy. The damage done by celiac
occurs int he duodenum, and you cannot
view that with colonoscopy.
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milz123
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Posted: 05-10-07 10:49am
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i no thats what i thought!! is the doctor
maybe saying that because he dosen't want
to do anymore tests! baring in mind im on
the nhs maybe w could get tested
privatley?
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 05-10-07 10:51am
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try going to enterolab.com. you can order
your own tests. Can you see a different
doc and pay out of pocket? not sure how
that works there.
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milz123
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Posted: 05-10-07 11:35am
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i dont understand how a doctor can say
they have tested that already and it come
back negative when he did a colnoscoy and
you can go privatley but its the fact of
finding the money if you leave a disease
like this for to long can it lead to any
long time affects?
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 05-10-07 11:51am
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There are a lot of long term effects of
untreated celiac disease, and some can be
devastating. You know, your other option
is to do a trial of a strict gluten free
diet for 4-6 weeks and see how you feel.
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childofgod777
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Is This Crohn's Disease?
Posted: 08-29-07 21:31pm
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My husband had ulcerative colitis, which
has all the same symptoms. He finally had
to have a colostomy. If the disease is in
the middle of the colon it can be
reattached. This is usually the case.
The only time it can't be reattached is
when is is in the rectal stump. This is
why you need to get this taken care of as
soon as possible. The longer you wait the
more chance there is of it spreading. Get
to an gastrointestinal doctor, and keep
going until you get results. Don't give
up. There is a light at the end of the
tunnel. God bless you and keep you
sweetie.
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2blema
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It's common
Posted: 04-02-08 13:33pm
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I'm sorry to hear that you have this stuff
at such a young age, I have been dealing
with it for some time now since the age of
7. I'm sorry for you, it is common to be
misdiagnosed when you have Crohn's
Disease. I was told I had Celiac and spent
10 years without pizza. Anyway hand in
there and I will keep you in my prayers
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