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My Horrible Night
Posted: 04-19-07 11:42am
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I wasn't going to post anything about a
little incident that happened to me
because it isn't pregnancy related, but
then I remembered that I can post random
things here so you guys get to hear me
vent!
Monday night at like 11:00 I was arrested.
Yup, you saw that right. I am a criminal
 Anyways, I got
pulled over because my registration light
was out so I wasn't too concerned I knew
that they would just give me a warning and
tell me to fix it. I gave the officer all
of my information and I knew that I would
be done in no time.
Well, the officer came back and was like
"Did you go to court recently for driving
without proof of insurance"? Of course I
had to say yes because I did about 6
months ago. Here's the shocker the officer
then replied "I am going to have to arrest
you ma'am because you are driving on a
suspended license". I was all like "wha?"
because I mean no one told me my license
had been suspended.
Come to find out, I was supposed to have
received a letter telling me to get
high-risk insurance because of the other
incident and I never received the letter.
Also, the judge was supposed to tell me
about that whenever he told me I had court
supervision. No one told me I didn't
know.
Now most people would think that the
officer would have some compassion on
little ole' me because I am pregnant and
didn't even know about everything. Yeah
right! He was so rude, kept me handcuffed
the entire time and didn't even let me go
to the bathroom. It hurts whenever .Luke
kicks my full bladder too! He didn't help
me out of the car, which getting out was
quite a feat because I was handcuffed,
pregnant and police cars are hard to get
out of anyway. He just stood there and
watched me struggle out of the car!
I was in a town that is almost 2 hours
away from where I live but is only 5
minutes from my sister and a half hour
from my mom's house. So, I decided that I
would post bond for myself and then go to
my sisters house till my husband picked me
up. However,whenever I went to withdraw
the money from their atm it wouldn't work.
It was a Cirrus machine and I need a Plus
machine or something like that. So then, I
had to call my brother and he picked me up
and had to post my bond for me! I had to
wait for him to get there and I had
already been there for like an 1 and a
half. The officer still kept me handcuffed
and by now my wrists were swelling up
around the cuffs and hurting very bad.
That had to of been one of the lowest
moments of my life. I had to pee, and the
swelling was starting to hurt. My legs and
ankles started to swell because I had been
sitting in an awkward position but seeing
as how I was chained to a railing on the
wall, I couldn't move. I am still having
allot of back pain because of this night!
Eventually my brother did get there and
posted my bond. However, the officer took
his sweet old time getting all of the
paper work done. I have never been inot a
jail or been arrested so I don't know how
long this is supposed to take, but my
brother has been arrested and he said that
it never took that long and he also said
that they took off his cuffs as soon as he
got in the car and then again when he got
into the building. I don't know why they
didn't give the same courtesy to a
pregnant woman!
Needless to say, my husband and I had to
sink allot of money into getting my car
back and paying towing fees. $125 for the
towing people to take it only 4 blocks!
Argh!! We had to pay the city to even get
the piece of paper that said that we could
pick up our car from the towing place! I
think by the time it was all over we spent
around 400 dollars , that we don't have I
might add. That was half of our rent
money, but poof there it went!
So, I am not very happy about it all but I
am going to have my license back soon. I
guess the only option I have is either cry
or laugh. Ihaev chosen to laugh about it
all because I now I feel like a common
criminal. My family and I have been
cracking jokes about it because I don't
want to get all crazy about it. I just
want it to go away. Besides there's
nothing I can do to change it.
There is my crazy, crazy story. I hope
that I didn't bore you for too long 
~Courtnie
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 04-19-07 11:57am
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Wow! That'll be a story for the little
one! That is crazy. But honestly, here,
that is how they treat everyone. Pregnant
or not. You are handcuffed from the time
you are arrested (sometimes before your
rights are read) and they stay on untill
you are released from custody. It hasn't
always been like that. A few years ago a
kid killed two cops because he wasn't
handcuffed while they were driving.
Anyway, he should have at least helped you
out.
Was your initial incident a dui? You dont
have to answer that if you don't want to.
I'm glad your home now. With my luck my
brother wouldn't have had the money and I
would have been stuck there forever. 
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musikmaker
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:05pm
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| mc4ever02
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Was your initial incident a dui? You dont
have to answer that if you don't want to.
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My initial incident was driving without
proof of insurance. I just didn't know
that I needed high-risk insurance so the
state suspended my license. They didn't
even tell me!
Usually, the officers are nice around
here. I just got a bad one because I have
friends that have little tiffs with the
law and they never went through all the
crap.
Oh, and I was never read my rights.
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Zanny
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:06pm
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That sucks!! I'm so sorry hun.. that must
have been horrible for you! I'm glad the
police aren't that stoopid over here..
although I haven't been arrested.. yet.
hehe
I'm glad you're ok though!
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:10pm
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you can get them on that they have to read
you your rights.
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:11pm
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The only time I have ever heard of high
risk insurance is if you get a dui. That
is why I asked. That sounds abit severe
for no proof of insurance!
It sounds kinda off the way they treated
you. If they didn't arrest you, then they
really shouldn't have kept the cuffs on
you. (While I understand pregnancy
hormones are strong, I cant really see you
being a threst.  ) It
they are pressing charges for you not
having your license and your rights were
not read...any decent attorney will be
able to get you out of that. Especially,
if it goes before a judge. A crying
pregnant woman that was handled so rudely
will win over pretty much anything.
What they should have done is keep you
there untill someone with a valid license
came to drive you and your car home.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:13pm
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What the heck! I could understand him
keeping you handcuffed if you had a
warrent for something violent or if you
were acting like you were about to flip,
but for a suspended license over insurance
crap? Come on, now. That's ridiculous.
.i'm so sorry hon! 
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:29pm
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I have experience with law enforcement and
in the state of Florida you are handcuffed
until you have been put through central
booking. Central Booking is the first
thing that you do when you enter the jail.
Here what we do is that we walk the person
into the jail, register them, hand in a
report, and the handcuffs are taken off
and they are fingerprinted as they are
walking in the front door. I mean
literally one door opens and then closes
and you are locking into a holding cell,
once you are fingerprinted the second door
opens. Basically, we need your hands free
to fingerprint and since you are the only
one in a bullet proof room...no danger.
Sorry, I hate when people are mistreated
by cops.
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Willa Weintraub
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:33pm
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wow,that really sucks! I would have not
shut my mouth if they didn't treat me like
I was pregnant! I would have not got out
of the car and told him to help me and I
would scream in pain since you were
swelling! then I bet they would have had
you out of there in half the time! lol
I hope you feel better!
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bandeodell
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:43pm
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| mc4ever02
wrote: | The only time I have ever
heard of high risk insurance is if you get
a dui. That is why I asked. That sounds
abit severe for no proof of insurance!
It sounds kinda off the way they treated
you. If they didn't arrest you, then they
really shouldn't have kept the cuffs on
you. (While I understand pregnancy
hormones are strong, I cant really see you
being a threst. ) It
they are pressing charges for you not
having your license and your rights were
not read...any decent attorney will be
able to get you out of that. Especially,
if it goes before a judge. A crying
pregnant woman that was handled so rudely
will win over pretty much anything.
What they should have done is keep you
there untill someone with a valid license
came to drive you and your car
home. |
You are only read your rights when it
comes to felonious charges...Something in
which what you say or do can alter an
investigation. You are not read Miranda
for dwls Driving while license suspended.
Which unless a repeat offender has
received three dwls charges at which time
a simple misdemeanor becomes a felony.
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 04-19-07 12:52pm
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| bandeodell
wrote: | | mc4ever02
wrote: | The only time I have ever
heard of high risk insurance is if you get
a dui. That is why I asked. That sounds
abit severe for no proof of insurance!
It sounds kinda off the way they treated
you. If they didn't arrest you, then they
really shouldn't have kept the cuffs on
you. (While I understand pregnancy
hormones are strong, I cant really see you
being a threst. ) It
they are pressing charges for you not
having your license and your rights were
not read...any decent attorney will be
able to get you out of that. Especially,
if it goes before a judge. A crying
pregnant woman that was handled so rudely
will win over pretty much anything.
What they should have done is keep you
there untill someone with a valid license
came to drive you and your car
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You are only read your rights when it
comes to felonious charges...Something in
which what you say or do can alter an
investigation. You are not read Miranda
for dwls Driving while license suspended.
Which unless a repeat offender has
received three dwls charges at which time
a simple misdemeanor becomes a felony.
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Really? I was always told that you were to
be read you rights if you are arrest.
Regardless of the charges. You
learn something new everyday.
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Posted: 04-19-07 14:10pm
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| ~*~Melissa~*~
wrote: | wow,that really sucks! I
would have not shut my mouth if they
didn't treat me like I was pregnant! I
would have not got out of the car and told
him to help me and I would scream in pain
since you were swelling! then I bet they
would have had you out of there in half
the time! lol
I hope you feel
better! |
I was just thinking the same thing. If
that were me, that cop would have had his
hands full, but I can be hornry like that
sometimes.
Some cops can be such a*sses when they
want to be. But on the other hand,
sometimes if you give them the respect
they want, they can sometimes be nice to
you. My friend had been arrested for a
dui and because he didn't act like a
beligerant drunk and make a scene, the cop
let him sit in the front seat with his
cuffs in front of him.
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Kia
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Posted: 04-19-07 14:27pm
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there was no way I could have held my pee
for an hour and half when I was pregnant -
I'd have pee'd my pants I'm afraid.
In the UK at least you have to be read
your rights before they can take you away
anywhere.
I also believe there is a little thing
called "undue force" meaning you are only
allowed to use the bare minimum required
to hold the arrestee - which it sounds as
if they used excess in your case.
mind you I'd also have been unable to
actually get out of the car either so...
I'd investigate if I were you before
letting it drop. It doesn't sound as if
you were treated appropriately.
Ignorance is no excuse in most cases, but
if a judge has failed to tell you that you
are suspended then I don't believe you can
be held liable, and even if it was a small
claims court there will be a full
transcript of everything that was said in
that courtroom on that day.
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musikmaker
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Posted: 04-19-07 14:35pm
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| Kia
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Ignorance is no excuse in most cases, but
if a judge has failed to tell you that you
are suspended then I don't believe you can
be held liable, and even if it was a small
claims court there will be a full
transcript of everything that was said in
that courtroom on that
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Yeah, I don't see ignorance as an excuse
either and that is why I am not mad that I
got arrested. I just don't like the way
that I was treated. I was talking to
someone today and they think that I should
at least write a letter to his Chief. I
think I will do that.
Also, my husband is friends with an
officer in the area and I am going to have
him call the officer tonight.
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JasmineGreen4179
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Posted: 04-19-07 14:37pm
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Wow, what a story....cops are jerks, I
know they are providing service for us,
but that does not give them an excuse to
be jerks, especially to a pregnant woman!
Some of them let the power of authority go
to their heads....I think they are just
overcompensating for smaller things, if ya
catch my drift  I was arrested for
a DUI, and I agree 100% that I should have
gone to jail because I should have not
been driving, but I was driving myself to
the hospital cuz I broke my ankle(that is
another story in itself!) I got pulled
over cuz I stay stopped at a light after
it turned green(I was searching for my
cellphone and didn't know the light had
changed) Any who, the two cops that
arrested me were complete a-holes as
well.....I had a freaking broken ankle for
crying outloud and they still made me do
all the sobriety test BS, you know walk a
straight line, balance yourself on one
leg....how in the hell are you suppose to
do that with a broken ankle! Also I was
wearing a skirt that night and after they
handcuffed me and took me to the hospital,
my skirt had worked it's way up and I was,
uuuuummmm, exposed! Those jerks would not
pull down my skirt for me and told me if I
hadn't of gotten in this predicament I
wouldn't have this problem....JERKS!!! I
was cooperative and nice until then and
then I started being a witch....you can
hear me on the tape, some of the stuff I
told them was freaking hilarious!!! When I
got to the station all the guards were
cracking jokes about my ankle and the
walking boot I was wearing(I was not in a
good mood and in a substantial amount of
pain!)....one of the ladies said "Ma'am,
are you aware of the fact that you have a
boot on you foot" you know being a total
smart*ss/witch and I looked at her and
said "Ma'am, are you aware of the fact
that there are a few places on you that I
would love to shove this boot?" Needless
to say, they took their sweet little time
booking me...a full 24 hours to be exact!
Anyway, that's my cops/jail
experience....I laugh about it now too,
what else can you do but learn from it!
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Kia
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Posted: 04-19-07 14:43pm
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| musikmaker
wrote: | | Yeah, I don't see ignorance
as an excuse either and that is why I am
not mad that I got arrested. I just don't
like the way that I was treated. I was
talking to someone today and they think
that I should at least write a letter to
his Chief. I think I will do that.
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Good idea.
I ws trying (badly) to explain that I
don't think yours is a case of ignorance.
I think that is only if info is available.
Example - UK number plates: if your's a re
non standard you can't say "oh I didn't
know" because the info on the standard is
available.
but in your situation the info about your
license would only be available if the
judge informed you.
does that make sense or am I just
rambling?
haha either way I'm agreeing with you
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Posted: 04-19-07 14:52pm
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That is a really screwed up story!! Wow
hun I'm sorry you had to go through that.
When I was just about 10 wks pregnant they
pulled my bf and I over for a suspicous
left turn. Yeah, stupid right? Well he was
pulling in my driveway and they had 8 cop
cars swarmed around my house.
embarassing!! I'm only 17 and he's 20 and
the all of the cops pulled guns out on
.M.E. not him. Bulls*it.
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musikmaker
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Posted: 04-19-07 15:09pm
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| Kia
wrote: | | musikmaker
wrote: | | Yeah, I don't see ignorance
as an excuse either and that is why I am
not mad that I got arrested. I just don't
like the way that I was treated. I was
talking to someone today and they think
that I should at least write a letter to
his Chief. I think I will do that.
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Good idea.
I ws trying (badly) to explain that I
don't think yours is a case of ignorance.
I think that is only if info is available.
Example - UK number plates: if your's a re
non standard you can't say "oh I didn't
know" because the info on the standard is
available.
but in your situation the info about your
license would only be available if the
judge informed you.
does that make sense or am I just
rambling?
haha either way I'm agreeing with you |
You make perfect sense .Kia! The only way
I could've known is if I had called the
s.o.s(secretary of state) and you can
check your status.Lol, as soon as we found
this out my dh went and checked his status
because his license was suspended a few
months ago because our car failed the
emissions test (how dumb) and he just
wanted to make sure he wasn't suspended
anymore. We got a letter saying he wasn't
but you never know
btw, whenever his license was suspended he
didn't drive at all! I made sure of that.
So that goes to show that I wouldn't have
driven either if I knew.
This all just so confusing to me.
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Auzzie_Wanting_To_Help
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Posted: 04-20-07 04:00am
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| musikmaker
wrote: | | mc4ever02
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Was your initial incident a dui? You dont
have to answer that if you don't want to.
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My initial incident was driving without
proof of insurance. I just didn't know
that I needed high-risk insurance so the
state suspended my license. They didn't
even tell me!
Usually, the officers are nice around
here. I just got a bad one because I have
friends that have little tiffs with the
law and they never went through all the
crap.
Oh, and I was never read my
rights. |
ohhh thats a horrible story, its amazing
that they are allowed to treat you like
that! They treated you like a serial
killer!!
Just wondering with the insurance.... do
you mean insurance if you hit another car
or if you hit property e.g house, person.
If you are talking about insurance for if
you hit another car... here in Australia,
it is not compulsory to have that
insurance! It is however compulsory to
have insurance if you hit property or a
person.
Hope that makes sense!!
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Posted: 04-20-07 07:26am
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In the state of IL. they have to read you
your rights as they are putting the
handcuffs on.
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