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mrdrumguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 7 Location: MD
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I Need Some Answers!!!
Posted: 02-19-04 10:51am
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Hello, about 2 weeks ago I started having
dizziness. Doctors tell me it is a inner
ear problem. I had dizziness when I was
little, I went through all the test and
nothing showed up, they said I would "grow
out of it". It has been 2 weeks now, and
they are almost at a constant dizziness
now. No matter what the doctors tell me,
I think have a terminal illness, brain
tumor etc...I cant get it out of my head.
My heart beats very fast sometimes, I cant
relax,pacing back and forth in my house.
Always asking my wife if she thinks iam ok
or if I should go to the hospital. I feel
like I cant think right,or I am in like a
dream world sometimes like nothing seems
real. I guess what I am asking is if
theis sounds familiar to anyone at all?
Thanks
keith
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 02-19-04 11:08am
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Keith,
it is 3am here in australia & i'm
doing about 6 things at once but I feel
sure that I just read &/or replied to
another post from you??
There are any number of possible reasons
for this, stress, allergy, sinus, middle
ear infection & I have no doubt plenty
of others. I suggest that you first calm
down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do some relaxation
therapy, some gentle exercise (walks),
find some natural medications like 5htp
(look up tryptophan on a search engine),
sam-e 200mg or 400 mg a day (start at the
lower dose & expect it to take about
2-3 weeks to start having an effect, also
vitamin b is good for stress. Then look
up on a search engine something along the
lines of what medical problems have
dizziness as a symptom (but don't become a
hypochondriac over this!!) or even just
causes of dizziness.
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 02-19-04 11:19am
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So are you the over anxious husband
driving his wife nuts due to his dizziness
& a belief that it's a tumour or the
diabetic, overweight, 22 year old with
high cholesterol?????????? 
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mrdrumguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 7 Location: MD
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I Guess Iam Alittle Confused
Posted: 02-19-04 11:39am
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I know I show strong signs in diabetes and
not so strong signs in the likley hood of
a tumor. Like I said I am getting the
test today, I guess I will have to go from
there. It just seems like I have told my
self it is a tumor or something deadly so
much that I actually belive it...Does that
make sense?
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 02-19-04 11:49am
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Keith,
whatever the dr & tests say you
certainly are confused & I think in
need of some help. Possibly a counsellor,
or a group dealing with anxiety, panic or
similar. Talk to your dr & to your
wife about all this & about how you
are thinking & behaving. Your wife is
only human & she may get fed up with
your behaviour if it keeps on, especially
if you don't talk to & communicate
with her & show her that you are
seeking help for your confusion & over
reaction.
Also please listen & take my advice on
both your posts.
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Del
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 12
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Posted: 02-20-04 00:07am
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Keith,
well first off it's reassuring to know
that i'm not the only person out there who
fears the worst when something happens...
After my recent bout of food poisoning
(you can read my post for the details)
i've also come to worry about tumors and
such, but talking about it with my parents
and friend help out a lot.
Everyone's right, there is no sense
worrying about something unless you know
all the facts first. All the stress and
anxiety it's going to put on you will only
make you feel worse and worry more, which
will lead to more of the above. Anyway
just wait till the tests come back before
you do anything. They shouldn't take
more than a week or so. If you need
anything feel free to email me.
Daniel
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mrdrumguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 7 Location: MD
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Posted: 02-20-04 08:51am
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I guess you are right its just I wish I
could get this negative thinking out of my
head. Its like its stuck in my head and
no matter what I think about, it always
comes back. I guess in actuality, just
because I have dizziness all the time
dosent mean it is going to be a terminal
illness or anything like that, I just wish
I could make my self belive that.
Keith 
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mrdrumguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 7 Location: MD
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Posted: 02-20-04 09:19am
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Also, I was wondering if having
anxiety/panic attacks could maybe be
making my dizziness worse by constantly
thinking about how dizzy I am and thinking
the worst possible things etc.
Keith 
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wellnessmatters
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 2 Location: Rialto, CA
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I Need Some Answers!!!
Posted: 02-20-04 09:44am
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Have to tried to take gluten out of your
diet? If not try that it might help.
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mrdrumguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 7 Location: MD
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Posted: 02-20-04 12:07pm
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Well, the results are in and I am not a
diabetic. Now I dont know what to think,i
have all these thoughts running through my
head. My dizziness has not gotten any
better, and I thought if it was diabetic,
atleast I would have an answer. Now I am
back to thinking I have a tumor,or some
kind of terminal illness. I cant stop
thinking about it...I feel so lost. I
dont know what to think. 
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
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Posted: 02-20-04 19:50pm
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Del & mr. Drumguy-
i was convinced I had just about every
serious ailment under the sun for many
years. I eventually learned it has little
to do with the symptoms and everything to
do with the way I was thinking about the
symptoms. Cbt has since changed my life.
It's all about using the tools to learn to
think more clearly and accurately about
things and once you do your depression
will miraculously begin to lift before
your eyes. My favorite starter book on
cbt is "been there, done that? Do this!
By sam obitz. You may also want to call
your local university to see if they have
a cbt program. Everyone says stop
worrying but cbt teaches you how to stop
worrying
q
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Del
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 12
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Posted: 02-20-04 22:35pm
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Keith,
yes the more you about it, the more the
stress will make you dizzy. Like I said
before, the more you think about it, the
worse it's going to be (well, it may not
be worse, but you'll think it is). The
best thing to do would be to go to a ear,
nose and throat dr, if you haven't
already.
Also, can you think of anything else in
your life that might be buggin you? I
know i've got a lot of other things going
on right now that's making things worse
for me. Sorry for making these posts so
long but it's just that I know exactly
what you're going through.
I'm going to take qt3's advice and pick up
that book. You should also find
something to do to pass the time so you
dont keep thinking so much about it.
Pick up a book, go for walks, take up a
hobby... Just anything to help take your
mind off it.
Oh btw, a couple days ago, I was so
anxious I actually gave myself the runs
and though I was dying  I just can't
mention enough that the more you do
something to take your mind off it the
better everything should be.
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grad33
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 5 Location: NJ
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Anxiety
Posted: 02-20-04 23:24pm
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Prayer is always an answer to everything
we face. Try spending some quiet time
with the lord...15-20 minutes/day to
start.
Also, become aware of eating well...Green
soups and salads...Fresh pressed
juices....
Look up alkaline diets on google.
God bless you.
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 02-21-04 01:06am
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Hi,
first I notice that there is a wide
variety of advice(mine included) all
coming at you at once. You should not try
it all at once & if something really
does not appeal then consider why it
doesn't appeal & if the reason is
logical as opposed to purely emotional or
thinking that it's too hard then don't
take that advice(like if someone told me
to eat bananas - well no way - they make
me ill).
Get all appropriate medical tests done,
like ear nose throat (ear problems will
cause dizziness too, as will other medical
conditions aside from diabetes!!).
Learn to relax, do some
meditation/relaxation or find hobbies that
keep you happy & occupied. Spend some
quality time with your wife, that will
help you, her & your relationship!!
Which then helps you relax further &
reduces any part of the problem which may
be being caused by stress.
As to food/dietary changes, be careful
there as if your problem is anything to do
with an allergy or food affected medical
condition then you need to change your
diet to suit that not just change it on a
whim.
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
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Posted: 02-21-04 01:24am
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Wow you have gotten a wide range of
advice. I just wanted to assure you that
if you are having anxiety/panic attack and
you focus on the fact that you are dizzy
(cannot breath, chest pain, etc) it will
get worse. Think of it this way: you get
a paper cut, but you ignore it, eventually
it does not hurt bad at all. However, if
you have nothing else to do and focus on
the pain, it will start to hurt worse.
Thus are symptoms of anxiety.
And purple is right! There are plenty of
medical reasons why you could be dizzy,
not just diabetes. But, I am betting
that it is anxiety. Try some of the
above listed anxiety relievers and good
luck!
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
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Posted: 02-22-04 15:54pm
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| del
wrote: | keith,
yes the more you about it, the more the
stress will make you dizzy. Like I said
before, the more you think about it, the
worse it's going to be (well, it may not
be worse, but you'll think it is). The
best thing to do would be to go to a ear,
nose and throat dr, if you haven't
already.
Oh btw, a couple days ago, I was so
anxious I actually gave myself the runs
and though I was dying I just can't
mention enough that the more you do
something to take your mind off it the
better everything should
be. |
del-
your advice is on the money! I would just
add that cbt teaches you the tools you
need to counter all the thoughts causing
your upset and once you get good at them
they disappear and are replaced by more
accurate (less upsetting) thoughts and you
don't need to take your mind off anymore
:d
i used to give myself the runs all the
time through my worry too
not fun!
Take care and keep in touch!
Q
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Haley
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: 02-25-04 01:52am
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I'm halfway through a cbt group (6th week
of 12) that meets once a week and we are
using the book that del mentioned above by
sam obitz as our course guide. I like it
it because it is a short book and all the
chapters in it are short. I'm just
starting to get better at using the tea
form and it helps a lot. We have several
people in our group who suffer from
different forms of health anxiety as well
as people suffering from depression, sad,
ptsd and panic (which is what i'm there
for). It's too early to tell if it will
cure us but we are starting to make a lot
of progress and begining to believe in
cbt. I'll let you know how it turns out
but it's definitely worth trying.
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Del
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 12
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Posted: 02-25-04 21:15pm
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Hehe thanks for the credit but qt3
actually recomended the book. It came
yesterday and i've found it to be quite
interesting so far. Also something to
try would be to start writing down your
thoughts and fears, basically like keeping
a journal. I started this 3 days ago and
so far i've seen dramatic improvement.
The last time I got food poisoning, I was
scared to eat for so long, and when I did,
it was never much. But since I started
keeping this journal, i've just felt
great. I've been able to eat so much.
The thought of becoming sick keeps
crossing my mind, but not nearly as bad.
It may work or may not, but it's something
to try, and very easy.
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
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Posted: 02-26-04 20:57pm
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| del
wrote: | hehe thanks for the credit
but qt3 actually recomended the book.
It came yesterday and i've found it to be
quite interesting so far. Also
something to try would be to start writing
down your thoughts and fears, basically
like keeping a journal. I started this
3 days ago and so far i've seen dramatic
improvement.
The last time I got food poisoning, I was
scared to eat for so long, and when I did,
it was never much. But since I started
keeping this journal, i've just felt
great. I've been able to eat so much.
The thought of becoming sick keeps
crossing my mind, but not nearly as bad.
It may work or may not, but it's
something to try, and very
easy. |
hi del-
thanks for giving me props but it was not
necessary i'm
glad you got the obitz book and are liking
it so far. Once you get good at catching
your thinking errors and countering them
in the tea from I think you will make good
progress. Everyone's different but it
took me about six weeks of doing it on a
fairly regular basis for it to begin to
"get it" and start to reap it's benefits.
The chapter about "so what" was useful
almost as soon as I read it though :d
i think the writing down of your thoughts
and fears you mentioned will prove
especially beneficial when you start
getting good at the tea form because you
will have plenty of material to use in the
thought column. Early on I had a hard
time getting going on it and something
like your making of that journal would
have really helped me.
Take care and keep in touch!
Q
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
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Posted: 02-26-04 20:59pm
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| haley
wrote: | | i'm halfway through a cbt
group (6th week of 12) that meets once a
week and we are using the book that del
mentioned above by sam obitz as our course
guide. I like it it because it is a
short book and all the chapters in it are
short. I'm just starting to get better
at using the tea form and it helps a lot.
We have several people in our group who
suffer from different forms of health
anxiety as well as people suffering from
depression, sad, ptsd and panic (which is
what i'm there for). It's too early to
tell if it will cure us but we are
starting to make a lot of progress and
begining to believe in cbt. I'll let you
know how it turns out but it's definitely
worth trying. |
haley,
the more you practice the exercises like
the tea form the faster and deeper your
recovery will be so just keep at it and
you will eventually get where you want to
be with it :d
q
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