How come some bulimics can be spotted more
than others?
Why do people become bulimic?
And
how come no matter how much a person wants
help, they just can't seem to force
themselves to go through?
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 02-19-04 13:27pm
I am concerned about the nature of your
questions. Are you trying to gather ways
to avoid being spotted/caught??
Then again, are you looking for help or
for an explanation of why (you or a
friend/family member) people with mia are
unable to go through with offerd help
& as to why they become bilimic so
that maybe you can spot it or avoid
it????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????
If it's the first then I for one will not
help you become bulimic.
If it's for help for yourself or a friend
then abit more info would help, like age,
sex, weight, height, support network of
family/friends/counsellor/church, things
the person enjoys, what he/she wants to
achieve/do with their life??????
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#1MIA
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 2 Location: MI
Please Posted: 02-24-04 10:51am
After 5 years a person becomes so
subterfuge it is almost scary ... I need
no help in hiding my problem ... It seems
to come naturally ...
I guess the nature of my questions is more
for a friend than me ... I am according
to all standards normal ... I am 18 ...
My friend on the other hand is 5' 6" and
weighs about 102 lbs ... She's 16 ...
You could say we both like acting,
perfectionists, other worked ... Etc.
I guess at the time of my post that help
sounded nice but now my mind has changed
and I feel that my friend would be better
suited for it ...
Please answer my previous questions ...
It would greatly be appreciated ... For
someday I might want to considr the
thoughts ... But for now my friend shall
be the one a consider helping ...
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 02-29-04 11:23am
First sorry for not replying sooner but
things have been abit topsy turvy here
& this is the first chance i've had to
reply with time for the thought needed.
Ok, i'll try & answer your questions
but it's not that simple. Each person is
unique so each person's reasons for
developing an eating disorder as well as
how they hide it & how well they hide
it is also unique so there just isn't one
simple answer.
You mention your age & that it is
second nature after 5 years to hide your
problem, but you don't mention your weight
still given the rest I will assume that
you too have an eating disorder, your
friend is definitely underweight for her
height.
Why do some people become bulimic?
Lots of reasons, abuse as a child, being
told they're fat/chubby etc, seeing
themselves as not thin enough to be
beautiful like actresses & models
(seen farrah fawcett lately!!), to get
attention etc.
Why bulimia rather than anorexia nervosa?
Well with anorexia you actually starve
yourself by not eating, so you don't get
to eat all the stuff you like & it can
be harder to hide (depending on your
living arrangements) from family/friends
etc whereas bulimia you get to eat (&
people see you eat!!) then you go &
throw it up. Another facet eating
disorders which is can be common to both
or separate is to drink tonnes of water
& take laxatives to get rid of what
you eat fast so your body doesn't take in
the calories.
How come some are spotted more easily?
Some peoples living arrangements/lifestyle
makes it easier to hide, some people are
simply better at pretending/hiding/lying
etc but some people actually do not have
bulimia or anorexia nervosa hence they
actually do not have anything to hide.
Some people lose weight regardless of how
much they eat, for verious reasons, like
they burn calories faster (some of us eat
& gain weight when stressed for others
it's the opposite they eat but lose it
when stressed. Also there are many
medical problems which can cause weight
loss ibs - irritable bowel syndrome -
carbohydrate intolerance, worms &
parasites, medication (eg the pill), etc
etc etc etc etc (there's dozens).
So it is possible for someone to have been
a "normal weight" & then to lose
weight for reasons other than bulimia or
anorexia nervosa. Note I say anorexia
nervosa not just anorexia because anorexia
simply means an unreasonable loss of
weight for some reason whereas anorexia
nrevosa is specifically when someone sees
themselves as fat & starves themselves
& counts every calories & every
drop of fat that they eat etc.
How come they want but can't accept
help?
Well for one, if they do not have anorexia
nervosa or bulimia then the help they're
offered won't help in fact it may make
matters worse. My daughter was diagnosed
with anorexia nervosa (girl, 15 weight
loss =an) & made to eat eat eat &
to eat the wrong things (as we now know)
no-one would listen to us or her, no-one
would believe that she was eating &
not throwing up etc, then when they had
made her almost suicidal I just checked
her out of hospital & into a psych
unit under a psychiatrist who actually
listened & tested her for a range of
things. She has ibs & now that she's
stopped eating starches & sugar(that's
the simplest way of explaining it) she's
started gaining weight, although slowly,
but after only a few weeks she looks
healthy for the first time in 12 months.
It just took the right diagnosis.
For those with an or bulimia though, well
having seen the torturous treatment handed
out to the girls in hospital with my
daughter & the lack of any attempt to
see them as individuals I personally
wonder if the reason they can't accept
help is more the type of help offered
& the way it's offered than
anything.
Generally a person who has bulimia or an
has emotional/psychological problems,
often is a perfectionist (so can't accept
themselves as human & therefore not
100% perfect)has low self esteem &
many are extremely bright high achievers
(or have the ability to be). You can't
simply say eat & shove food at them
(& hospital food is usually pretty
awful anyway!!) you need to consider the
individual & figure out why they
developed the problem & then counsel
them "out" of it. But you need also to
provide nice foods, a caring environment
& personal development courses so as
to avoid it (or some other problem)
happening again. Many are also very
stressed & perhaps if they were
treated for stress (with natural
medications like 5htp or sam-e (check on a
search engine for details of these) they
would destress & that at the very
least would help them overcome their
problems.
I hope this has given you some "food" for
thought & research for your friend but
also for you. Pm me if you want to chat
or discuss more personal details that you
would prefer not to post openly.