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Bomb Found At Tx Clinic Posted: 04-27-07 15:03pm


AUSTIN, Texas - A bomb was left in a duffel bag in the parking lot of a clinic where abortions are performed, but a bomb squad safely detonated it. An employee found the package Wednesday in the parking lot of the Austin Women's Health Center, authorities said. The immediate area, including nearby Interstate 35, was evacuated briefly. The device "was configured in such a way to cause serious bodily injury or death," said David Carter, assistant chief of the Austin Police Department. Tests later confirmed that the package was explosive. The regional Joint Terrorism Task Force, led by the FBI and including Austin police, is investigating. Authorities have asked area abortion providers to be vigilant in coming days, Carter said. A U.S. Supreme Court ruling last week banned a type of late-term abortion. "We know that when abortion is in the news, we also see clinics targeted for increased violence and disruption," said Vicki Saporta, president of the National Abortion Federation. The group put out a memo to abortion providers around the country, urging them to be alert. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/i d/18343166/

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Posted: 04-28-07 07:56am


Ahhh.. I see. PFL screams "No Violence" but then once agian committs and act of domestic terrorism.. kind of a mixed message ain't it?

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Posted: 04-28-07 12:57pm

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Ahhh.. I see.
PFL screams "No Violence" but then once agian committs and act of domestic terrorism.. kind of a mixed message ain't it?

Even jesus commits acts of violence; yet still spouts love thy neighbor. Jesus doesn't even have the excuse of "I'm just human" because he wasn't - supposedly. Then again, he only got really angry when super-bad things were going on. Wait; why am I trying to justify that? The pro-lifers consider an abortion clinic to be something super-bad.

Then again, when jesus got angry as a human, he didn't kill anyone, nor did he intend to, unlike these pro-lifers. As the article stated, the bomb was designed to cause death or severe physical harm.

I am constantly confused by people using christianity as their calling card for violence. Almost all of the violence in the bible doen by god and christians is in the old testament, which I'm told over and over again doesn't "count". Then again, there is revelations, which is just trippy. However from all I've gleaned, revelations is metaphorical, not literal, so any violence in it can't be literally interpreted.

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Posted: 04-28-07 13:18pm


A 27-year-old Austin man was arrested Friday and charged with placing an unexploded bomb containing some 2,000 nails outside an abortion clinic in the state’s capital. The explosive device also included a propane tank and a mechanism “akin to a rocket,” Austin Police Commander David Carter said. The device was discovered Wednesday in the parking lot of the Austin Women’s Health Center, police said. The Texas Joint Terrorism Task Force — made up of federal, state and local law enforcement authorities — arrested Paul Ross Evans, who authorities said was on parole for an unspecified crime. Evans was charged with violating federal laws banning the manufacture of explosives and interfering with access to an abortion clinic. He appeared before a federal magistrate, and was being held without bail. No further arrests were anticipated in the case. “The threat is over,” Carter said. A robot was used to disarm the bomb after the unmarked clinic building and an apartment complex were evacuated, police said Thursday. This was the first bombing attempt this year at an abortion clinic, according to the National Abortion Federation, which tracks violence against abortion providers. Four incidents of attempted bombing or arson were reported in 2006, the NAF said. More than 40 abortion clinic bombings have occurred since 1977, with the last reported in 2001. htt p://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story .html?id=c1752fca-8a3c-439b-87cb-cb441ad8e ff4&k=98236 ------------------------------------------ ---------------------------- We cannot immediately jump to conclusions about the ideology he follows. You do not have to be a Christian to be against abortion.

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Posted: 04-28-07 13:28pm


True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

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Posted: 04-29-07 03:19am


Actually I would be very interested to know what percentage of those who label themselves pro-life would also label themselves .Christian.

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Hi... Posted: 04-29-07 04:09am


Hi, 1st of all this is m 1st post on this forum, so hello 2 everyone...... 2nd, really, did it happened????????????? man, who can be that brutal 2 install a bomb in clinic????

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ambrina wrote:

really, did it happened????????????? man, who can be that brutal 2 install a bomb in clinic????

1. yes, it did.

2. A 27-year-old austin man was arrested friday and charged with placing an unexploded bomb containing some 2,000 nails outside an abortion clinic in the state’s capital.

The explosive device also included a propane tank and a mechanism “akin to a rocket,” austin police commander david carter said.
The device was discovered wednesday in the parking lot of the austin women’s health center, police said.

The texas joint terrorism task force — made up of federal, state and local law enforcement authorities — arrested paul ross evans, who authorities said was on parole for an unspecified crime.

Evans was charged with violating federal laws banning the manufacture of explosives and interfering with access to an abortion clinic. He appeared before a federal magistrate, and was being held without bail.
No further arrests were anticipated in the case. “the threat is over,” carter said.

A robot was used to disarm the bomb after the unmarked clinic building and an apartment complex were evacuated, police said thursday.

This was the first bombing attempt this year at an abortion clinic, according to the national abortion federation, which tracks violence against abortion providers.

Four incidents of attempted bombing or arson were reported in 2006, the naf said. More than 40 abortion clinic bombings have occurred since 1977, with the last reported in 2001.

http://www.Canada.Com/nati onalpost/news/story.Html?Id=c1752fca-8a3c- 439b-87cb-cb441ad8eff4&k=98236

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Posted: 04-29-07 11:00am


Pff...all people who claim they are pro-life should be required by law to wear shirts/pins/buttons that say "I want to kill people to save potential people", since that's how many of them think. In any case, I'm glad the jerk who planted the explosive was arrested. I just had a thought...what if some anti-choice zealot detonated a bomb near a clinic with a lobby full of women seeking abortions and succeeded in killing everyone in the clinic? Not only will they have killed the real people whose lives actually are worth something, but they would also kill the precious fetuses they worship.

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Posted: 04-29-07 11:24am

Eiri wrote:

True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

That's inaccurate. There are many irreligious and atheist pro-lifers - more, in fact, than the average pro-choicer would like to admit or acknowledge.

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Posted: 04-29-07 16:11pm


Brilliant, kill however many people to save x amount of z/e/f's - makes perfect sense Idiots

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Posted: 04-29-07 17:06pm

Kypros wrote:

Eiri wrote:

True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

That's inaccurate. There are many irreligious and atheist pro-lifers - more, in fact, than the average pro-choicer would like to admit or acknowledge.

When those statistics can be proven, I'll agree.

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Posted: 04-29-07 17:07pm

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Brilliant, kill however many people to save x amount of z/e/f's - makes perfect sense Rolling Eyes

Idiots

Better yet, as someone stated before: Kill the mothers that are pregnant along with their fetuses!! That'll teach 'em!

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Posted: 04-29-07 19:36pm

Kypros wrote:

Eiri wrote:

True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

That's inaccurate. There are many irreligious and atheist pro-lifers - more, in fact, than the average pro-choicer would like to admit or acknowledge.

Its a funny thing when people talk of Jesus and what he did, and yet don't believe in him..If one does not believe in him why would they acknowledge him and his ways? and if they did believe in him.. then they would not believe abortion was right.

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Posted: 04-29-07 19:52pm

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Kypros wrote:

Eiri wrote:

True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

That's inaccurate. There are many irreligious and atheist pro-lifers - more, in fact, than the average pro-choicer would like to admit or acknowledge.

Not necessarily true on many levels. You are confused.

I am buddhist. I happen to think that a man named jesus probably did exist. I like most of his teachings. I think he had a good message for the world. I am not christian however, because of the many contradictions and lies within the religion. It is bereft with violence and hate, not to mention sexual repression and gender-discrimination.

Secodnly, just because someone is christian doesn't automatically make them pro-life. I know several christians who are pro-choice.

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Posted: 04-29-07 21:27pm


well i'm pro life and i'm not christian, eiri i like some of the things you say, and i understand i don't have to agree with everything you say and stand for but you talk bad about a lot of pro lifers just because theyre pro life, i think you need to understand that not everyone has to believe what you do, too. i could be wrong about you, and i'm sorry if i am but it's just what i've noticed.

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Posted: 04-29-07 22:33pm

HcoBrunette06 wrote:

well i'm pro life and i'm not christian, eiri i like some of the things you say, and i understand i don't have to agree with everything you say and stand for but you talk bad about a lot of pro lifers just because theyre pro life, i think you need to understand that not everyone has to believe what you do, too.

i could be wrong about you, and i'm sorry if i am but it's just what i've noticed.

No, I understand.

I have to remind myself often that I have the right to believe what I believe, and others have the right to believe what they believe. So I'm not here to change the views of pro-lifers. I obviously don't agree with them on all things - but I do on some things.

But that's the thing: I am about personal freedom. The one thing about pro-life that I am against and the one thing I do try to change is their desire to remove the rights of women to choose an abortion.

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Posted: 04-30-07 07:31am

Eiri wrote:

meblonde01 wrote:

Kypros wrote:

Eiri wrote:

True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

That's inaccurate. There are many irreligious and atheist pro-lifers - more, in fact, than the average pro-choicer would like to admit or acknowledge.

I am not confused or an fool like you have a tendency to call people.. Make your point with out telling people they are fool or confused.. Remember what you say is not written in gold it is ONLY your opinion! INTELLENGET people can voice their opinion with out calling names or down grading another person.

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Posted: 04-30-07 12:35pm

meblonde01 wrote:

Eiri wrote:

meblonde01 wrote:

Kypros wrote:

Eiri wrote:

True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

That's inaccurate. There are many irreligious and atheist pro-lifers - more, in fact, than the average pro-choicer would like to admit or acknowledge.

I'm sorry but personally being confused isn't a detrimental state in my opinion. If I'm confused about something and don't know it, I much prefer people to inform me.

So, got anything to say in reference to every other word in my post aside from the one word "confused"?

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Posted: 04-30-07 15:20pm

Eiri wrote:

meblonde01 wrote:

Eiri wrote:

meblonde01 wrote:

Kypros wrote:

Eiri wrote:

True; there is the rare non-christian who is against abortion.

That's inaccurate. There are many irreligious and atheist pro-lifers - more, in fact, than the average pro-choicer would like to admit or acknowledge.

But you see I am not confused that is just your oinion. But you have in many of your post called people idiots. and just because they don't think like you do, does not make them idiots. And that is not an INTELLENGET
way to address people.