Why Abortion Is Legal...and Should Stay That Way. Posted: 04-28-07 11:06am
1. Laws against abortion kill women.
To prohibit abortions does not stop them.
When women feel it is absolutely
necessary, they will choose to have
abortions, even in secret, without medical
care, in dangerous circumstances. In the
two decades before abortion was legal in
the U.S., it's been estimated that nearly
a million women per year sought out
illegal abortions. Thousands died. Tens of
thousands were mutilated. All were forced
to behave as if they were criminals.
2. Legal abortions protect women's
health.
Legal abortion not only protects women's
lives, it also protects their health. For
tens of thousands of women with heart
disease, kidney disease, severe
hypertension, sickle-cell anemia and
severe diabetes, and other illnesses that
can be life-threatening, the availability
of legal abortion has helped avert serious
medical complications that could have
resulted from childbirth. Before legal
abortion, such women's choices were
limited to dangerous illegal abortion or
dangerous childbirth.
3. A woman is more than a fetus.
There's an argument these days that a
fetus is a "person" that is
"indistinguishable from the rest of us"
and that it deserves rights equal to
women's. On this question there is a
tremendous spectrum of religious,
philosophical, scientific, and medical
opinion. It's been argued for centuries.
Fortunately, our society has recognized
that each woman must be able to make this
decision, based on her own conscience. To
impose
a law defining a fetus as a "person,"
granting it rights equal to or superior to
a woman's Ò a thinking, feeling,
conscious human being Ò is arrogant and
absurd. It only serves to diminish women.
4. Being a mother is just one option for
women.
Many hard battles have been fought to win
political and economic equality for women.
These gains will not be worth much if
reproductive choice is denied. To be able
to choose a safe, legal abortion makes
many other options possible. Otherwise an
accident or a rape can end a woman's
economic and personal freedom.
5. Outlawing abortion is discriminatory.
Anti-abortion laws discriminate against
low-income women, who are driven to
dangerous self-induced or back-alley
abortions. That is all they can afford.
But the rich can travel wherever necessary
to obtain a safe abortion.
6. Compulsory pregnancy laws are
incompatible with a free society.
If there is any matter which is personal
and private, then pregnancy is it. There
can be no more extreme invasion of privacy
than requiring a woman to carry an
unwanted pregnancy to term. If government
is permitted to compel a woman to bear a
child, where will government stop? The
concept is morally repugnant. It violates
traditional American ideas of individual
rights and freedoms.
7. Outlaw abortion, and more children will
bear children.
Forty percent of 14-year-old girls will
become pregnant before they turn 20. This
could happen to your daughter or someone
else close to you. Here are the critical
questions: Should the penalty for lack of
knowledge or even for a moment's
carelessness be enforced pregnancy and
childrearing? Or dangerous illegal
abortion? Should we consign a teenager to
a life sentence of joblessness,
hopelessness, and dependency?
8. "Every child a wanted child."
If women are forced to carry unwanted
pregnancies to term, the result is
unwanted children. Everyone knows they are
among society's most tragic cases, often
uncared-for, unloved, brutalized, and
abandoned. When they grow up, these
children are often seriously
disadvantaged, and sometimes inclined
toward brutal behavior to others. This is
not good for children, for families, or
for the country. Children need love and
families who want and will care for them.
9. Choice is good for families.
Even when precautions are taken, accidents
can and do happen. For some families, this
is not a problem.
But for others, such an event can be
catastrophic. An unintended pregnancy can
increase tensions, disrupt stability, and
push people below the line of economic
survival. Family planning is the answer.
All options must be open. At the most
basic level, the abortion issue is not
really about abortion. It is about the
value of women in society. Should women
make their own decisions about family,
career, and how to live their lives? Or
should government do that for them? Do
women have the option of deciding when or
whether to have children? Or is that a
government decision?
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Word, Birch. You hit the nail on the head
with each statement.
It's sad that anti-choicers are dense
enough to argue with this logic. Then
again, we're talking about the group that
is comprised mostly of women who bleat as
hard as they can in an attempt to destroy
the rights their predecessors worked so
hard to acquire.
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willdfw5
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Posted: 06-06-07 08:13am
1. Abortion kills children
2. Abortions are often detrimental to a
women's health.
3. A woman has less potential than her
child.
4. Being a mother is just one option for
women and women have a choice put their
children up for adoption if they don't
like the consequence of unprotected sex.
5. Abortion is discriminatory against the
young.
6. Compulsory pregnancy laws are
incompatible with a free society.
7. Outlaw abortion, and more children will
avoid their early death.
8. "every child a living child"
9. Children are good for families.
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Posted: 06-06-07 13:35pm
willdfw5
wrote:
1. Abortion kills
children
Only if you equate an embryo or fetus with
a born child. I don't. Even if I did, I'd
still be pro choice.
Quote:
2. Abortions are
often detrimental to a women's
health.
Wrong. First trimester legal abortion is
very safe, many times safer than gestation
and childbirth.
Quote:
3. A woman has
less potential than her child.
Wow. Why do you think so little of women?
Quote:
4. Being a mother
is just one option for women and women
have a choice put their children up for
adoption if they don't like the
consequence of unprotected
sex.
Why do you assume that all women who abort
were having unprotected sex?
I am *not* a broodmare for the barren, I
will *not* put *my* body through the
trauma of gestation and childbirth just so
someone can have a lily white baby. Let
them adopt some of the thousands of older
children needing loving permanent homes.
Quote:
5. Abortion is
discriminatory against the young.
Forced gestation is discriminatory against
women.
Quote:
6. Compulsory
pregnancy laws are incompatible with a
free society.
Agreed!
Quote:
7. Outlaw
abortion, and more children will avoid
their early death.
8. "every child a living child"
See #1.
Quote:
9. Children are
good for
families.
Not for families that don't want them.
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Posted: 06-06-07 17:47pm
willdfw5
wrote:
3. A woman has less potential than her
child.
*exasperated*
I tell you what, I read number three and
stopped. Anyone who states that as a
reason why abortion shouldn't be legal is
a big, sopping wet hairball.
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willdfw5
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Posted: 06-06-07 23:08pm
Birch
wrote:
willdfw5
wrote:
3. A woman has less potential than her
child.
*exasperated*
I tell you what, I read number three and
stopped. Anyone who states that as a
reason why abortion shouldn't be legal is
a big, sopping wet
hairball.
This is exactly how I felt about the first
list. I don't take my list anymore
seriously than I think the other list
should be taken. However, logically a
newborn child will have more potential
than a childbearing mother giving birth to
that child. I think most reasonable
people will agree. Not to say that a
mother has low potential, just less than a
human being starting out. Most of us
start out in this world with our fullest
potential. We are then either nourished
and flourish. And in some cases, people
are abused and often times incapable of
becoming what potential we once held. We
also begin life free of a history of
either good or bad choices. Therefore,
the potential for success however you
might measure that is at it's peak.
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Posted: 06-07-07 07:38am
willdfw5
wrote:
1. Abortion kills children
2. Abortions are often detrimental to a
women's health.
3. A woman has less potential than her
child.
4. Being a mother is just one option for
women and women have a choice put their
children up for adoption if they don't
like the consequence of unprotected sex.
5. Abortion is discriminatory against the
young.
6. Compulsory pregnancy laws are
incompatible with a free society.
7. Outlaw abortion, and more children will
avoid their early death.
8. "every child a living child"
9. Children are good for
families.
Cheers!!!!
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Posted: 06-07-07 07:42am
Pros and Cons!
Pros of Abortion
Laws against abortion kill women. Even
though abortion may be illegal doesn't
mean that women won't go through with the
abortion. Look at the case of Becky Bell
for example. She was an innocent girl
that did not want her child and died
because of an illegal abortion.
Legal abortion protects women's health.
For tens of thousands of women with heart
disease, kidney disease, severe
hypertension, sickle-cell anemia and
severe diabetes, and other illnesses that
can be life-threatening, the availability
of legal abortion has helped avert serious
medical complications that could have
resulted from childbirth. Before legal
abortion, such women's choices were
limited to dangerous illegal abortion or
dangerous childbirth.
A woman is more than a fetus. Though a
woman might be pregnant with a child, she
still is her own person and has every
right to decide what she wants to do with
her baby.
Outlawing abortion is discriminatory.
Anti abortion laws discriminate against
low income women who are forced to back
alley abortions, where they can become
infected. Rich people can travel to
anywhere they need to go to find the
proper care that they need.
If abortion is outlawed then more
"children" will be having children.
Abortion should not be a form of birth
control, but if something does happen
there should be the option of abortion
there so the wrong mother doesn't have to
raise a child at such a young age.
Every child should be a wanted child. If
abortion is illegal then there would be a
lot of children brought into this world
that weren't wanted. This could cause
more damage to the child than anything.
Abortion should be legal for those women
who are raped. Women who are raped
sometimes can not even bare the thought of
bringing that child into their lives and
sometimes the option of abortion is the
best one to chose.
Cons of Abortion
Abortion does not give the child that is
in the womb a chance at life. It is wrong
and looked down upon by a lot of
religions.
Some women use abortion as a type of birth
control. They sleep with men and do not
use protection and think nothing of it to
go to the clinic as many as five times in
their life to have an abortion.
A con against abortion is the nagging
thought that a woman went to a clinic, had
an abortion, and thus the world was
prevented from seeing the birth of the
only person capable of attaining a
leadership role and initiating a peace
accord between warring factions in the
Middle East, thus preventing decades of
strife and homicide. A stable home life is
not a guarantee of talent, and
illegitimate children have shown
themselves to be very bright on occasion,
Lawrence of Arabia for one.
Another con, is that the child who never
lived, may have invented a cure for cancer
(had he lived). Think about that, if
you’re for abortion, the next time you
walk into a hospital to have a mysterious
growth on your breast checked out.
Having an abortion always lessens your
chances for having children later in life.
Even though it doesn't happen to many
women, you could be the one to miss out on
your once in a life time chance to have
your baby.
There are other options. You can give
your baby up for adoption and give your
child a chance at life.
If looked at at the religious aspect, God
gave you the opportunity to have a baby
for a reason, you should not throw that
chance away.
If you laid down in the bed and weren't
responsible, you should take
responsibility for your actions and take
care of the child you created. Abortion
is the lazy way out.
If you have an abortion you will always
wonder what if, and feel guilty for the
rest of your life about the child you
could have had.
tiger.towson.edu/users/bpahl1/pros%20and%2
0cons%20page.htm
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Posted: 06-07-07 20:02pm
willdfw5
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
willdfw5
wrote:
3. A woman has less potential than her
child.
*exasperated*
I tell you what, I read number three and
stopped. Anyone who states that as a
reason why abortion shouldn't be legal is
a big, sopping wet
hairball.
This is exactly how I felt about the first
list. I don't take my list anymore
seriously than I think the other list
should be taken. However, logically a
newborn child will have more potential
than a childbearing mother giving birth to
that child. I think most reasonable
people will agree. Not to say that a
mother has low potential, just less than a
human being starting out. Most of us
start out in this world with our fullest
potential. We are then either nourished
and flourish. And in some cases, people
are abused and often times incapable of
becoming what potential we once held. We
also begin life free of a history of
either good or bad choices. Therefore,
the potential for success however you
might measure that is at it's
peak.
Potential is in flux. Stating that a
newborn baby = X amount of potential, and
then it declines with age is not logical.
A newborn baby has zero potential unless
it is cared for by others.
My life experiences and intelligence gives
me more potential than a newborn.
Using that as a basis to be anti-abortion
is ageist, and slightly less so sexist.
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Posted: 06-07-07 20:11pm
meblonde01
wrote:
...
Cons of Abortion
Abortion does not give the child that is
in the womb a chance at life. It is wrong
and looked down upon by a lot of
religions.
Some women use abortion as a type of birth
control. They sleep with men and do not
use protection and think nothing of it to
go to the clinic as many as five times in
their life to have an abortion.
A con against abortion is the nagging
thought that a woman went to a clinic, had
an abortion, and thus the world was
prevented from seeing the birth of the
only person capable of attaining a
leadership role and initiating a peace
accord between warring factions in the
Middle East, thus preventing decades of
strife and not a nice act. A stable home
life is not a guarantee of talent, and
illegitimate children have shown
themselves to be very bright on occasion,
Lawrence of Arabia for one.
Another con, is that the child who never
lived, may have invented a cure for cancer
(had he lived). Think about that, if
you’re for abortion, the next time you
walk into a hospital to have a mysterious
growth on your breast checked out.
Having an abortion always lessens your
chances for having children later in life.
Even though it doesn't happen to many
women, you could be the one to miss out on
your once in a life time chance to have
your baby.
There are other options. You can give
your baby up for adoption and give your
child a chance at life.
If looked at at the religious aspect, God
gave you the opportunity to have a baby
for a reason, you should not throw that
chance away.
If you laid down in the bed and weren't
responsible, you should take
responsibility for your actions and take
care of the child you created.
Abortion is the lazy way out.
If you have an abortion you will always
wonder what if, and feel guilty for the
rest of your life about the child you
could have had.
tiger.towson.edu/users/bpahl1/pros%20and%2
0cons%20page.htm
Your "cons" make me laugh.
You could have aborted the next Stalin,
Hitler, Bush.
You could have aborted someone who would
have created a horrible biological
weapon.
Abortion does not "always lessen your
chance for having children". Ridiculous.
My religion says purple unicorns are in
charge, and they are okay with abortion.
Taking responbility sometimes means
getting an abortion. This is not a hard a
concept.
Abortion is not a lazy way out. Cut and
pasting crappy editorials and posting them
on forums is.
There are reasonable arguments against
abortion. I suggest you find those.
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Posted: 06-08-07 09:55am
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
...
Cons of Abortion
Abortion does not give the child that is
in the womb a chance at life. It is wrong
and looked down upon by a lot of
religions.
Some women use abortion as a type of birth
control. They sleep with men and do not
use protection and think nothing of it to
go to the clinic as many as five times in
their life to have an abortion.
A con against abortion is the nagging
thought that a woman went to a clinic, had
an abortion, and thus the world was
prevented from seeing the birth of the
only person capable of attaining a
leadership role and initiating a peace
accord between warring factions in the
Middle East, thus preventing decades of
strife and not a nice act. A stable home
life is not a guarantee of talent, and
illegitimate children have shown
themselves to be very bright on occasion,
Lawrence of Arabia for one.
Another con, is that the child who never
lived, may have invented a cure for cancer
(had he lived). Think about that, if
you’re for abortion, the next time you
walk into a hospital to have a mysterious
growth on your breast checked out.
Having an abortion always lessens your
chances for having children later in life.
Even though it doesn't happen to many
women, you could be the one to miss out on
your once in a life time chance to have
your baby.
There are other options. You can give
your baby up for adoption and give your
child a chance at life.
If looked at at the religious aspect, God
gave you the opportunity to have a baby
for a reason, you should not throw that
chance away.
If you laid down in the bed and weren't
responsible, you should take
responsibility for your actions and take
care of the child you created.
Abortion is the lazy way out.
If you have an abortion you will always
wonder what if, and feel guilty for the
rest of your life about the child you
could have had.
tiger.towson.edu/users/bpahl1/pros%20and%2
0cons%20page.htm
Your "cons" make me laugh.
You could have aborted the next Stalin,
Hitler, Bush.
You could have aborted someone who would
have created a horrible biological
weapon.
Abortion does not "always lessen your
chance for having children". Ridiculous.
My religion says purple unicorns are in
charge, and they are okay with abortion.
Taking responbility sometimes means
getting an abortion. This is not a hard a
concept.
Abortion is not a lazy way out. Cut and
pasting crappy editorials and posting them
on forums is.
There are reasonable arguments against
abortion. I suggest you find
those.
To each their own opinion! Not using your own
words and copying and pasting in general
is a bit lazy wouldn't you say?? I suggest you not
do it then criticize someone else for it.
And the pros of what I posted made me
laugh. Like I said, to each their own!
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Posted: 06-08-07 13:24pm
meblonde01
wrote:
To each their own opinion! Not using your own
words and copying and pasting in general
is a bit lazy wouldn't you say?? I suggest you not
do it then criticize someone else for it.
And the pros of what I posted made me
laugh. Like I said, to each their
own!
Really, I preferred it when you didn't
respond to me. At the very least, address
what I say with some logic and relevance.
I stated facts, you stated falsehoods.
Think about what "to each their own" means
before you post it as a prolife advocate
on an abortion debate forum.
I think posters like meblonde really show
off that stereotype of the uneducated
prolife advocate.
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Posted: 06-16-07 16:01pm
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
To each their own opinion! Not using your own
words and copying and pasting in general
is a bit lazy wouldn't you say?? I suggest you not
do it then criticize someone else for it.
And the pros of what I posted made me
laugh. Like I said, to each their
own!
Really, I preferred it when you didn't
respond to me. At the very least, address
what I say with some logic and relevance.
I stated facts, you stated falsehoods.
Think about what "to each their own" means
before you post it as a prolife advocate
on an abortion debate forum.
I think posters like meblonde and cowboys
really show off that stereotype of the
uneducated prolife
advocate.
You did not adress what I said either. Did
you?? You question the fact that I cut and
pasted.. Yet you do the same thing right?
What makes what you stated Facts? Is it
Because you believe in the site you copied
from?? Where is the logic in that?
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Posted: 06-16-07 17:20pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
To each their own opinion! Not using your own
words and copying and pasting in general
is a bit lazy wouldn't you say?? I suggest you not
do it then criticize someone else for it.
And the pros of what I posted made me
laugh. Like I said, to each their
own!
Really, I preferred it when you didn't
respond to me. At the very least, address
what I say with some logic and relevance.
I stated facts, you stated falsehoods.
Think about what "to each their own" means
before you post it as a prolife advocate
on an abortion debate forum.
I think posters like meblonde and cowboys
really show off that stereotype of the
uneducated prolife
advocate.
You did not adress what I said either. Did
you?? You question the fact that I cut and
pasted.. Yet you do the same thing right?
What makes what you stated Facts? Is it
Because you believe in the site you copied
from?? Where is the logic in that?
I did address what you said, point by
point. Did you read it?
Common sense, logic, & history are on
my side. Your 'cons' aren't even true.
Again, there are legit arguments against
choice; why not find those?
Irony.
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Posted: 06-16-07 18:29pm
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
To each their own opinion! Not using your own
words and copying and pasting in general
is a bit lazy wouldn't you say?? I suggest you not
do it then criticize someone else for it.
And the pros of what I posted made me
laugh. Like I said, to each their
own!
Really, I preferred it when you didn't
respond to me. At the very least, address
what I say with some logic and relevance.
I stated facts, you stated falsehoods.
Think about what "to each their own" means
before you post it as a prolife advocate
on an abortion debate forum.
I think posters like meblonde and cowboys
really show off that stereotype of the
uneducated prolife
advocate.
You did not adress what I said either. Did
you?? You question the fact that I cut and
pasted.. Yet you do the same thing right?
What makes what you stated Facts? Is it
Because you believe in the site you copied
from?? Where is the logic in that?
I did address what you said, point by
point. Did you read it?
Common sense, logic, & history are on
my side. Your 'cons' aren't even true.
Again, there are legit arguments against
choice; why not find those?
Irony.
Did I miss something? Did
you not condemned me for cutting and
pasting and you do the same thing? I did
not see where you addressed that issue.
That is what I was talking about. And this
silly conversation has ended..
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Posted: 06-16-07 21:14pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Irony.
Did I miss something? Did
you not condemned me for cutting and
pasting and you do the same thing? I did
not see where you addressed that issue.
That is what I was talking about. And this
silly conversation has ended..
[/quote]
I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about
abortion, and your silly
list of cons. Were you shown the error of
your ways so badly that now you attempt to
diverge?
Did I "condemn" you? Is that a buzz word
on the forum or what? "Here ye, here ye,
meblonde is condemned to thy place of
eternal sulfur!"
All you can do is copy and paste, you
couldn't even come up with your own
argument, that's all you do all over the
forum, and it was a a point of humor if
you go back and read it. Have you no
mind? I do it one time and what? You
harp on it like a vulture?
Are you one of those brainwashed
warmongers who voted for the person in
office now?
You know, when I originally came on here,
I made it a point to be kind to my
neighbors...then I realized that my online
neighbors are really just the same people
as my real life neighbors. Complete
selfish jackwipes without a shred of
decency, and they get what they deserve.
Here's a story...
Last week, I was working up in my studio.
A shrieking of brakes filled the air,
followed by shouts and the most pitiful
screaming I had ever heard. I froze...was
that a dog or a child? Looking out the
window, I saw a crowd across the street
and a small dog limping out of the road.
I flew down the stairs and out the door.
People were standing there, staring at
this animal- A five month old German
shepard mix puppy was laying on the
sidewalk, trying to walk, it's rear leg
mangled, blood coming out of it's mouth, .
I am a squeamish person, but I held it
together while these morons pointed in
disgust. It kept trying to walk, and I
yelled at them to not allow it to walk,
but they were incapable of getting over
their fear. I held the dog down, found
out whose it was, and told her that she
needed to take it to a vet right now. She
didn't have a vet. I said fine, I'll take
it to the vet er. Flash
forward...neighbor (a reluctant passenger,
I might add) and dog in my car. Neighbor
did not have dog on leash, did not have
gate shut, only had it for a week. Flash
forward to vet. The vet, whom disgusts
me, had dogs intubated laying on floors,
had a gerbil a young assistant was trying
to revive by imitating a "yo yo" with it.
She took one look at the dog, and ran to
put together not a concoction of
painkillers for this pitiful creature, but
a bill. $1000 at least, and probably lose
his leg.
Well, of course this lady didn't "have a
thousand dollars to spend on a dog she
only had a week". She looked at me. I
was astonished. I'm a student, first of
all, secondly, how could she ask me to
spend a thousand dollars on an animal I
didn't even know after she just made a
similar statement. For the record, if I
had the money, I would have paid for it,
and sent her in a cab home, and had a
three legged down. Would've gone nicely
with my three legged cat.
So, they had to put the dog down.
The clincher to me was that this neighbor
of mine "couldn't stand" to be with the
puppy when they put him down. I hardly
think a creature should leave the world
without a person who knew it, and I wanted
to yell at the lady to be strong, it's not
about her needs right now. But I know
some people can't take it. So I stayed.
So then, the problem is disposal. She
didn't want to bother. And then she asked
if she could smoke in my car.
Long story short, puppy is buried in my
backyard, neighbor never said an froikin'
word of thanks, and I hate people once
again.
Thanks for reading. Sorry it's sooooo off
subject; I know I've been sounding like a
gigantic 'woman who is letting her
hormones get the better of her' lately and
I wanted to explain a little bit why.
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HcoBrunette06
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 8005 Location: Missouri, United States
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Posted: 06-16-07 23:39pm
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
Did I miss something? Did you not
condemned me for cutting and pasting and
you do the same thing? I did not see where
you addressed that issue. That is what I
was talking about. And this silly
conversation has ended..
I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about
abortion, and your silly
list of cons. Were you shown the error of
your ways so badly that now you attempt to
diverge?
Did I "condemn" you? Is that a buzz word
on the forum or what? "Here ye, here ye,
meblonde is condemned to thy place of
eternal sulfur!"
All you can do is copy and paste, you
couldn't even come up with your own
argument, that's all you do all over the
forum, and it was a a point of humor if
you go back and read it. Have you no
mind? I do it one time and what? You
harp on it like a vulture?
Are you one of those brainwashed
warmongers who voted for the person in
office now?
You know, when I originally came on here,
I made it a point to be kind to my
neighbors...then I realized that my online
neighbors are really just the same people
as my real life neighbors. Complete
selfish jackwipes without a shred of
decency, and they get what they deserve.
Here's a story...
Last week, I was working up in my studio.
A shrieking of brakes filled the air,
followed by shouts and the most pitiful
screaming I had ever heard. I froze...was
that a dog or a child? Looking out the
window, I saw a crowd across the street
and a small dog limping out of the road.
I flew down the stairs and out the door.
People were standing there, staring at
this animal- A five month old German
shepard mix puppy was laying on the
sidewalk, trying to walk, it's rear leg
mangled, blood coming out of it's mouth, .
I am a squeamish person, but I held it
together while these morons pointed in
disgust. It kept trying to walk, and I
yelled at them to not allow it to walk,
but they were incapable of getting over
their fear. I held the dog down, found
out whose it was, and told her that she
needed to take it to a vet right now. She
didn't have a vet. I said fine, I'll take
it to the vet er. Flash
forward...neighbor (a reluctant passenger,
I might add) and dog in my car. Neighbor
did not have dog on leash, did not have
gate shut, only had it for a week. Flash
forward to vet. The vet, whom disgusts
me, had dogs intubated laying on floors,
had a gerbil a young assistant was trying
to revive by imitating a "yo yo" with it.
She took one look at the dog, and ran to
put together not a concoction of
painkillers for this pitiful creature, but
a bill. $1000 at least, and probably lose
his leg.
Well, of course this lady didn't "have a
thousand dollars to spend on a dog she
only had a week". She looked at me. I
was astonished. I'm a student, first of
all, secondly, how could she ask me to
spend a thousand dollars on an animal I
didn't even know after she just made a
similar statement. For the record, if I
had the money, I would have paid for it,
and sent her in a cab home, and had a
three legged down. Would've gone nicely
with my three legged cat.
So, they had to put the dog down.
The clincher to me was that this neighbor
of mine "couldn't stand" to be with the
puppy when they put him down. I hardly
think a creature should leave the world
without a person who knew it, and I wanted
to yell at the lady to be strong, it's not
about her needs right now. But I know
some people can't take it. So I stayed.
So then, the problem is disposal. She
didn't want to bother. And then she asked
if she could smoke in my car.
Long story short, puppy is buried in my
backyard, neighbor never said an froikin'
word of thanks, and I don't like people
once again.
Thanks for reading. Sorry it's sooooo off
subject; I know I've been sounding like a
gigantic 'woman who is letting her
hormones get the better of her' lately and
I wanted to explain a little bit
why.
wow, i just wanted to say that was very
kind of you, i don't even know what to say
to that. i feel bad for the poor dog
though thankfully it had
someone like you around to put it out of
its misery!
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Jules
Moderator
Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 3795 Location: Merrie Englande, UK
Thanks: 87
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Posted: 06-17-07 00:36am
That's just horrible .Birch I'm so glad that
the poor little guy had someone in the
world who cared for him at the end.
Humans are the cancer of the planet in my
opinion and your story just deepens my
belief
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Moo
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: London
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Thanked:111
Posted: 06-17-07 06:18am
Wow birch, that's so sad Pleased you were
with the little guy though
Not using your own
words and copying and pasting in general
is a bit lazy wouldn't you say?? 
thankfully it had
someone like you around to put it out of
its misery!
