Thanks, that was very informative and
quite horrible to see the test crashes and
imagining if it was my little boy...
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ladylee70
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Posted: 04-30-07 13:08pm
Thank you! That information was extremely
informative. I like how they actually show
us a comparison.
My son is now 31 pounds at 3 1/2 years of
age. We placed him front facing at one
year. I will not do that with this next
child. I still wonder if my son is safe
enough facing forward. He is such a little
guy.
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oh_mommy
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Posted: 04-30-07 13:11pm
i didnt know that... thanks:)
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Becky
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Posted: 04-30-07 13:12pm
thanks for that information. i don't have
a car but plan on getting one soon and
will be putting both logan and
layla rear facing
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OctoberBaby06
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Posted: 04-30-07 13:28pm
I was actually just looking for something
about this on the net so thanks for
posting it! I was just arguing with my
cousin about her putting her son in a
front facing carseat already & he's
only 8 months old. She kept telling me to
get .Kaylee one here in the next couple
months.. No freakin way..
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Bridget
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Posted: 04-30-07 13:32pm
thanks for posting that, nat!
pretty much everyone knows i'm the carseat
police. i've been saying for some time now
that i plan on keeping finn rear-facing
until he reaches the weight limit for his
seat (33 pounds rf).
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Becky
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Posted: 04-30-07 13:40pm
i have been looking on the uk websites at
rear facing car seats and they
only go up to a maximum of 13kg!
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SamanthaM
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Posted: 04-30-07 15:17pm
Wow.. I actually just turned Ethans car
seat around to forward facing, but I think
I'm going to turn it back around. That's
crazy!
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 04-30-07 16:37pm
accidents happen. But these show the
"parent"(whoever driving) running into the
back of someone. If you're driving like a
nut, you don't need a child in the
backseat.
What if someone hits you from the back? Or
from the side? (t-boned)?
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Bridget
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Posted: 04-30-07 16:56pm
babymajic0506
wrote:
Accidents happen. But these
show the "parent"(whoever driving) running
into the back of someone. If you're
driving like a nut, you don't need a child
in the backseat.
What if someone hits you from the back? Or
from the side? (t-boned)?
"According to Crashtest.Com,
frontal and frontal offset crashes combine
for about 72% of severe crashes. Side
impacts are about 24%. Rear and rear
offset crashes only account for about 4%.
The NHTSA FARS database shows similar
numbers. The odds of being in a frontal
crash with a fatality or very serious
injury are many times greater than being
in a severe rear-end crash. Rear-enders
are more common at lower speeds, though
most injuries in these crashes are not as
severe; typically whiplash injuries to
adults, especially passengers lacking
proper head restraint." -from the
2nd link she posted, which i also showed
you a while back.
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 04-30-07 17:03pm
I understood what the websites said. I was
asking because carelessness is the main
cause for a parent to smash into the rear
of another car.
You should always have 3 car lengths
between you and the car infront of you, to
avoid accidents.
After getting into my 2 wrecks(before
.oni) I take into consideration the amount
of space between me and the car in front
of me.
People depend tooo much on their brakes,
and that's not something someone with a
child should do.
Around here, people run red lights like
crazy, and you have a higher chance of
being t-boned. But I guess every area is
different.
Regardless, it's hard to face a 3 year old
towards the back after 2 years of being
forward. THey can't cope as easily as
you'd think.
Oni, could care less if we turned her to
the back. But her seat is from 5lbs to
35lbs. is the site insinuating that I wait
until she's about to grow out of it for me
to face her forward? I find that pointless
and a waste of money on a carseat.
i cant even believe that you are defending
putting your daughter into a forward
facing position.
Quote:
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Regardless, it's
hard to face a 3 year old towards the back
after 2 years of being forward. THey can't
cope as easily as you'd
think.
oh please, you are talking about the
childs life here, too damn bad if they
cant cope. and im sorry, but maybe that
person should have done their research
*before* they stuck their child in a
forward facing position.
Quote:
tr>
Oni, could care
less if we turned her to the back. But her
seat is from 5lbs to 35lbs. is the site
insinuating that I wait until she's about
to grow out of it for me to face her
forward? I find that pointless and a waste
of money on a
carseat.
the site is saying .P.U.T. Y.O.U.R.
C.H.I.L.D. I.N. R.E.A.R. F.A.C.I.N.G.
until they outgrow the weight requirements
for the seat. that is the responsible
thing to do, after seeing the
information...no matter how "incovenient"
it may be for you.
this is your childs life you are risking.
it has nothing to do with what a good
driver you are...nothing to do with what
kind of car you have..nothing to do with
how inconvient it may be, this is about
saving a life. accidents happen all the
time, no matter how great of a driver
someone may be. but for you to knowingly
take that risk with your child...is just
unbelievable to me. i cant belive that you
are actually arguing with this.
What if I am hit from behind? Won't my
child be safer facing forward?
Frontal and side impacts are the most
common type of crashes. They account for
96% of all crashes. They are also the most
deadly type of crashes (especially side
impacts) and rear-facing children have
MUCH more protection in both types of
crashes than forward-facing. In the 4% of
rear impact crashes that a rear-facing
child would be in, they have at least the
same amount of protection that a FF child
would have in a frontal impact, with the
added benefit of less crash energy being
transferred to them, and the fact that the
rear impact is usually not as severe.
The forces in a rear impact crash are much
different from the forces in a frontal
impact crash. In a frontal impact, the
forces are much greater because the
vehicles are usually traveling in opposite
directions. Experts suggest that a frontal
crash is the same as hitting a concrete
barrier – the vehicle and all occupants
come to a dead stop within less than 1
second.
When you are struck in a rear impact, the
vehicles involved are traveling in the
same direction, and the vehicle that is
hit in the back has room to move forward.
The crash force on the occupants is much
less than in a frontal impact. The
movement of the impacted vehicle, in
addition to the crush zone, absorbs a lot
of the crash energy, so it is not
transferred to the child. Additionally,
the majority of rear impacts are at low
speeds.
In short, if your child is rear-facing, he
has optimal protection in the types of
crashes you are most likely to be in. If
he is forward-facing, he may have optimal
protection in a rear-end crash, but
statistically, that is the least likely to
happen and he is 60% more likely to be
injured or killed in the types of crashes
(frontal, side impact) you are most likely
to be in.
Oni, could care less if we turned her to
the back. But her seat is from 5lbs to
35lbs. is the site insinuating that I wait
until she's about to grow out of it for me
to face her forward? I find that pointless
and a waste of money on a carseat.
what's a waste of money? she's still using
it and they make it so it can be
rear-facing for up to a certain weight...
?
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 04-30-07 18:15pm
wow, calm down .natalie. Seriously,
there's no need to jump down my throat
about this.
If I choose to give .oni french fries,
you'd do the same thing.
Because I don't believe a video on youtube.com about a specific
child, doesn't make me a *horrible*
mother.
This video was made for a woman to change
her mind about putting her 8 month
old front facing. Not, my 1 year,
25lb, child.
whatever...I've got far too much going on
right now to please everyone. If you don't
like it, don't respond.
I should have lied...maybe then you'd like
my response better.
Sarah
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HcoBrunette06
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Posted: 04-30-07 18:43pm
she's not jumping down anyones throat,
she's simple posting a video stating that
a child under 35 pounds should be
backwards, if you choose to put oni facing
forward then that's your decision but
she's trying to help people by showing
them!
she's right, accidents do happen, you
can't control what's going to happen no
matter how careful you are, because there
are always careless drivers out there that
could hit you instead. accidents happen.
this has nothing to do with believing a
video form you tube. i was using that as
an example to illustrate crash results,
which in my opinin are astounding, and if
after seeing that, you still choose to
foward face your baby, you are being very
foolish for doing so.
my main point is that this information is
coming from credible child safety
resources. there is a reason why sweden
and other countries have such a low infant
vehile crash mortality rate-they rear face
their children until 3 or 4 years old. and
the one year, 20 lb thing is a *minimum*,
and it is strongly recommended that to
protect your childs life, you keep them
rear facing until they max out the seat
weight requirement.
maybe you should open up your eyes, and
stop tying to argue for the sake of
arguing. imo, this is not something to
mess around with, this is the life of your
child that you are willing to risk.
a bite of french fry wont kill her (though
it is terrible for her) but one car ride
where she is forward facing *can* kill
her...her spinal cord and neck can snap-
its up to you if you want to take that
risk.
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Idony
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Posted: 04-30-07 20:45pm
ok, im not trying to start anything,
really i understand both sides i just want
to ask a question
if however 4% are rear crashes arent they
frontal crashes too because the person who
hit your rear also hit their front?
sorry, not trying to be a smart ass or
anything, im just curious if my logic is
correct
ive had a bad headache for the last 3 days
(actualy just got back from the hospital
to be sure everythings ok) and im
intriegued by the littlest things