homerx
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Posted: 01-29-08 22:30pm
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wrong-o !!!!
He
don't get it...
Hay,backpain1955, NICOTINE is in cigs...so
cigs are a DRUG!
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-29-08 22:34pm
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The US Supreme Court disagrees with you.
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homerx
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Posted: 01-29-08 22:36pm
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and I disagree with them...I don't take my
cues from old men,thank you very much..
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-29-08 22:37pm
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| backpain1955
wrote: | | The US Supreme Court
disagrees with
you. |
When did the Supreme Court say Nicotine
was not a drug?
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-29-08 23:10pm
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The US Supreme Court ruled cigarettes are
not regulatable as drugs in 2000 in a
landmark case of tobacco companies vs the
FDA. At that time, the FDA wanted to
regulate cigarettes just as they do all
other drugs, but the US Supreme court
(yes, the old men) sided with big tobacco
companies in that decision. Thereafter,
the FDA has been hands off of tobacco and
the only regulation has come through acts
of Congress and the class action suits
filed by the states attorney generals
against the tobacco compnaies resulting in
a megabuck settlement to be paid to the
states by the tobacco manufacturers.
I can't say I take all my cues from old
men either but it comes down to whether we
are a society of individuals that have the
right to pick and choose which laws of the
land we are going to obey today.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-29-08 23:25pm
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Ni
co
tine
Nicotine.
Nicotine.
Is nicotine a drug?
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-29-08 23:44pm
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"Yep, when you smoke a cig you are smoking
chemicals and tobacco is a drug..I bet you
smoke cigs and thats inhaling toxins...but
you wont admit it. " Homerx
The discussion was instituted by the
statement above proclaiming "tobacco is a
drug". My replies were based on
correcting that error.
Nicotine is a drug, tobacco is not
according to the FDA and the US Supreme
Court.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-30-08 10:13am
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I don't personally care about whether or
not the FDA consideres tobacco
a drug, because that's not what I'm
talking about. I am referring to YOUR
statement of "No inhaled drug will ever be
legal". Well, sorry to burst your bubble
but nicotine is a drug and it is legal and
it is inhaled. So your statement is false.
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-30-08 10:41am
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Ah the joys of semantics....
The FDA has not approved any smoked drugs
period.
The FDA will not approve any smoked drugs
period.
The FDA does not regulate cigarettes
period.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-30-08 10:48am
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I again don't care about the FDA.
Is nicotine a DRUG, backpain?
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-30-08 11:03am
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Nicotine is a drug...it is regulated by
the FDA. SMOKED drugs have never been
legally approved by the FDA and they never
will. There is a huge difference between
"smoked" or "inhaled". Some inhaled drugs
are legal......no smoked drugs are legal.
Cigarettes are not drugs therefore are not
regulated by the FDA
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homerx
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Posted: 01-30-08 11:41am
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| backpain1955
wrote: | | Nicotine is a drug...it is
regulated by the FDA. SMOKED drugs have
never been legally approved by the FDA and
they never will. There is a huge
difference between "smoked" or "inhaled".
Some inhaled drugs are legal......no
smoked drugs are legal. Cigarettes are
not drugs therefore are not regulated by
the FDA |
OMG! Now that is really stretching it big
time. There is a HUGE difference between a
"smoked" drug and an "inhaled" drug????
WHAT???? News flash, smoking is inhaling
unless your just puffing for fun...
You are just playing word games now...
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-30-08 11:43am
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Not at all. There are many inhaled drugs
approved by the FDA, primarily for asthma
treatment, however there are no smoked
drugs approved by the FDA. The smoke
contains toxins that inhalational systems
do not.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-30-08 11:57am
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Yeah, you're grasping at straws now. I
win, you loose.
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-30-08 12:14pm
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lol...ok. I am just a stickler for
accuracy and your statements were
inaccurate.
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homerx
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ParkerYoung
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umm actually
Posted: 04-23-08 16:14pm
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Actually cigarettes are a drug, so is
alcohol and backpain you need to stop
arguing with people of higher inteligence
on the matter... im sorry to say but you
sound like a total right wing conservative
thats pro-life and supports the death
sentence... you talking about a subject
that you have little to no knowledge on.
Saying cigarettes isn't a drug is like
saying marijuana isn't a drug and that THC
is the drug
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homerx
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Re: umm actually
Posted: 04-23-08 16:43pm
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| ParkerYoung
wrote: | Actually cigarettes are a
drug, so is alcohol and backpain you need
to stop arguing with people of higher
inteligence on the matter... im sorry to
say but you sound like a total right wing
conservative thats pro-life and supports
the death sentence... you talking about a
subject that you have little to no
knowledge on.
Saying cigarettes isn't a drug is like
saying marijuana isn't a drug and that THC
is the drug |
right on right on right on....
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