mamaTT
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Omg !!! 60-year Old Mom !!
Posted: 05-23-07 14:34pm
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http
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I think having babies at this age is
crazy!! This is the time of your life you
should be enjoying retirement and
grandkids; not raising babies!!! I just
could not imagine being a new mom at 60!!!
There's no way I would be able to keep
up!!!
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HcoBrunette06
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Posted: 05-23-07 14:42pm
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i persoally think it's selfish.
at 60 you aren't exactly old, but by the
time they're 16 you're going to be 76,
that's getting pretty old, you aren't
going to be able to do a bunch of stuff
with them or even watch them get married
or watch their kids grow, that's a lot of
heart ache for someone, i know i'd be
devistated if i had to bury my mom before
i got married or had kids.
and, what's that child supposed to do when
you get to be old enough to where you
can't care for yourself? i doubt they'd
want to put you in a nursing home, so
they're going to be taking care of you,
while trying to have a family and a career
and.. i just think it's selfish lol
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arcadia
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Posted: 05-23-07 14:45pm
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the stigma? what is she talking about.
going through pregnancy & giving birth
at that age isn't very safe, i would
imagine. why on earth. oh i will never
understand people. i'm sorry, but those
poor children. when they are 10 years old,
their mother will be 70.. talk about a
incredibly generation gap.. 
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Emma2
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Posted: 05-23-07 14:48pm
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| arcadia
wrote: | the stigma? what is she
talking about. going through pregnancy
& giving birth at that age isn't very
safe, i would imagine. why on earth. oh i
will never understand people. i'm sorry,
but those poor children. when they are 10
years old, their mother will be 70.. talk
about a incredibly generation gap..  |
or more like 2
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meblonde01
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Posted: 05-23-07 14:49pm
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| HcoBrunette06
wrote: | i persoally think it's
selfish.
at 60 you aren't exactly old, but by the
time they're 16 you're going to be 76,
that's getting pretty old, you aren't
going to be able to do a bunch of stuff
with them or even watch them get married
or watch their kids grow, that's a lot of
heart ache for someone, i know i'd be
devistated if i had to bury my mom before
i got married or had kids.
and, what's that child supposed to do when
you get to be old enough to where you
can't care for yourself? i doubt they'd
want to put you in a nursing home, so
they're going to be taking care of you,
while trying to have a family and a career
and.. i just think it's selfish
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yeah I agree.. that is a old age to be
having kids. I would not want to. But you
know what? I'm 56 and I power walk
everyday and I never had kids.. My mother
just celabrated her 87th birthday and she
still lives on her own and walks everyday
too. Maybe this lady always desired to
have kids and couldn't .. I doubt it.. But
who know.. I still think it is to old! I
decided not to have kids at 33, I surly
would not consider having them at 60.
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arcadia
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Posted: 05-23-07 14:50pm
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i even think my parents are too old. i am
20, & they are in their mid 50s. my
mom didn't have me until she was 34. &
i have a 16 & 17 year old sister. i'm
so glad i had my son at this age.
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ebarnhard33
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Posted: 05-23-07 14:57pm
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| meblonde01
wrote: |
yeah I agree.. that is a old age to be
having kids. I would not want to. But you
know what? I'm 56 and I power walk
everyday and I never had kids.. My mother
just celabrated her 87th birthday and she
still lives on her own and walks everyday
too. Maybe this lady always desired to
have kids and couldn't .. I doubt it.. But
who know.. I still think it is to old! I
decided not to have kids at 33, I surly
would not consider having them at
60. |
.actually, this lady already has 3 other
kids. a 33-year-old son, a 29-year-old
daughter and a 6-year-old son. she said
she wanted her youngest to have siblings
close in age to him... but come on. i just
don't understand the desire to have kids
at 60.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 05-23-07 15:02pm
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That lady already had three kids!
I'm sorry but I think it's selfish
considering the risks to the fetus with a
mother that old. There is a reason why we
don't remain fertile into our 60s. Even
after age 35 there are increased risks of
defects from nondisjunction and
chromosomal abnormalities like Down's
syndrome. Of course Down's syndrome kids
are beautiful and can live happy lives but
they also suffer a lot with heart defects
and leukemia and infections. I can't
imagine how much the risks are increased
at the age of 60. If you have three kids
that you birthed then why put the child at
risk of having defects just so you can
prove that you can do it. If it were me
and I wanted to have another child I would
adopt. Maybe adopt a child with down's
syndrome.
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arcadia
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Posted: 05-23-07 15:05pm
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how in the world did she get pregnant
anyway? what about menopause..?!
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ebarnhard33
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Posted: 05-23-07 15:06pm
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| arcadia
wrote: | | how in the world did she get
pregnant anyway? what about
menopause..?! |
.she used in-vitro fertilization. 
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Kia
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Posted: 05-23-07 15:11pm
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hmmmm I have a few different thoughts on
this.
I see no reason why age should be an issue
to being a parent.
I was raised by my paternal grandmother
for the most part. - she is 84 now and I
am 28.
I also believe a woman should be entitled
to have a child of she is willing to care
for it.
having a child is something women take for
granted - until they can't.
she might be a most fantastic mother.
on the other hand parts of me scream "no,
it's wrong" - but I can't come up with an
valid and justifiable reasons why.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 05-23-07 15:58pm
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I can think of a couple of reasons; one
she already had given birth three times,
two, she had to travel halfway around the
world to go through in vitro fertilization
because she couldn't do it naturally, not
because she had anything wrong with her
but because she is far beyond the normal
age of fertility. Why not go to africa
and adopt one of the millions of orphaned
children there if you can afford it? I
don't see any reason why a 60 year old
can't be a good parent but to me it
doesn't make sense to go to all that
trouble and risk to prove a point or
remove stigma when there are so many
children who are orphaned or unwanted.
Just because we can do something doesn't
mean we should. Anyway, the babies are
here and I'm sure she will take good care
of them. I just don't think it's
something that should be encouraged at
that age.
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Posted: 05-24-07 08:51am
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I personally think that she did it for the
wrong reasons. On the .Today show this
morning, they were asking her basicly why
would she want to get pregnant at her
age... Her answer was because she wanted
to show all women that they "Do" have a
choice and no one should tell them that
they can't do something..... So you tell
people this by getting pregnant at 60???
I am all for women being able to do
anything they want to their own bodies and
no one should ever have the right to tell
them what to do with them. But really, is
that the only reason that you decided to
have another baby at the age of 60, just
to prove a point??? That doesn't make
sence to me. They said that her 29 year
old daughter is upset and doesn't
understand why she would do that and she
just said, .....I hope this experience
will help show my daughter that she can do
anything she wants to.... J.M.O
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Willa Weintraub
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Posted: 05-24-07 09:38am
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I think if she is healthy and fit then why
not?Yeah,she is older but hey,if she's got
the love and she's a good mother,go for
it!
I do see the point about when her kids are
older she might not ever see them get
married or see grandchildren from them but
life is life.some people's parents die
early,before they can see their child grow
or get married or have children of their
own.those kids wil go through the same
thing.
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KatieFlower
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Posted: 05-24-07 10:08am
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I agree with you Arcadia. i am 20 , my sis
21, my brother 19. My parents are 54 and
55, and I am very glad to be having my
first child earlier.
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Kia
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Posted: 05-24-07 13:54pm
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[quote="kaerbear"]I can think of a couple
of reasons; one she already had given
birth three times,[quote]so what? I know
of people who have way more than 3 kids.
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tr> | two, she had to
travel halfway around the world to go
through in vitro fertilization because she
couldn't do it naturally, not because she
had anything wrong with her but because
she is far beyond the normal age of
fertility. |
does that make her a bad
mom?
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tr> | Why not go to
africa and adopt one of the millions of
orphaned children there if you can afford
it? |
I really resent that
comment.
Adoption is a good thing but it is not for
everyone.
If I had a dollar for each time someone
suggested to me why don't I adopt due to
my questionable fertility - I would surely
be very rich.
I for one don't want to adopt - it isn't
for me and where should anyone get off
telling another woman to adopt a child
instead of having one that is biologically
hers.
Added to the fact that adoption is not
easy.
You guys who take fertility for granted do
not have to prove you are able to be a
good parent before being considered for
pregnancy.
Yet people who are infertile have to have
allsorts of invasions of privacy.
I understand that they are there to
protect the child - but think of the shoe
on the other foot for just a moment.
Then there is the vast cost. Adoption is
not cheap.
[quote]I don't see any reason why a 60
year old can't be a good
parent[quote]exactly
[quote]but to me it doesn't make sense to
go to all that trouble and risk to prove a
point or remove stigma when there are so
many children who are orphaned or
unwanted.[quote]Just because there are
orphaned and unwanted children - a woman
shouldn't have her own biological child?
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tr> | Just because we
can do something doesn't mean we should.
Anyway, the babies are here and I'm sure
she will take good care of them. I just
don't think it's something that should be
encouraged at that
age. |
I didn't say it should be encouraged but
that none of those reasons are valid and
justifiiable as to why this woman - who's
body is apprently capable of sustaining a
pregnancy (albeit not to acheive that
state naturally - but then lots of women
are unable to fall pregnant naturally)
should not have her own biological child.
OK I know it seems I ripped apart your
post - I didn't mean that at all.
You put forward some valid suggestions for
reasons but they don't hold up is what I
am saying.
I can see this from so many directions.
My mother is 16 years older than me.
I was raised by my grandmother.
I understand what it is like to be told
your chances of natural fertility have
gone.
I know how freely people who have
kids/normal fertility think that adoption
is just as good as having a child that is
biologically your own.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 05-24-07 14:09pm
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sorry you felt the need to rip apart my
post but i wasn't making broad sweeping
statements about all women, i was
referring to the story in the link. i
didn't say women shouldn't do this or
that, i just feel that it was selfish of
her. of course she has the right to do it
but i also have the right to disagree with
it.
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Kia
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Posted: 05-24-07 14:22pm
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| kaerbear
wrote: | | sorry you felt the need to
rip apart my
post |
Like I said - that wasn't
my intent.
You put forward some valid suggestions for
reasons.
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tr> | but i wasn't
making broad sweeping statements about all
women, i was referring to the story in the
link. i didn't say women shouldn't do
this or that, i just feel that it was
selfish of her.
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nope, you didn't and I
don't claim that you did
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tr> | of course she has
the right to do it but i also have the
right to disagree with
it. |
of course you do.
Like I said earlier, a big part of me
screams out that "no this is so wrong" but
I am unable to justify any reason I can
think of so far.
I was giving you reasons as to why I was
unable to justify your suggestions.
Please don't take it as an insult - it's
actually a compliment that you are a
worthy debater - with a view and no need
to step into personal insults.
(that is not saying you were, that is
saying that you haven't)
oh gesh my words are getting mixed up.
Ok to re-phrase
you are a worthy debater
you have a view
you don't step into personal insults when
someone has a different view.
did that come out better. 
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 05-24-07 14:27pm
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Debating is awesome 
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kaerbear
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Posted: 05-24-07 14:40pm
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This is a support forum!! and i support
you having an opinion!
Oh god i just watched that clip from the
view. that was crazy! But Joy is
hilarious "what are we on pbs. don't we
have commercials on this show??" too
funny
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