Is This Normal In Miscarriage? Posted: 05-25-07 14:00pm
Hi,
The day before my first scan at 13 weeks i
started to get back pain and then had some
bleeding and mucus when i went to the
toilet. We went straight to the emergancy
dept and they did blood tests and said my
HCG was fine and to come in the next day
for my scan.
My first scan showed that either my dates
were wrong or there was no baby inside the
placenta and it had died 2 weeks earlier.
We were devestated and didn't really take
it all in and told to return 1 week later
for another scan in case it was wrong
dates and there was still a pregnancy but
we knew it was over.
I went back for my second scan and they
confirmed that it was an ended pregnancy.
The problem is that the sack had continued
to grow from 12mm at the frst scan to 22mm
at the second and in the middle of these
two scans i had passed a big clot the size
of cassette tape and then a small white
grey sack. I thought that i had miscarried
everything but the scan seemed to say
otherwise.
I think as there was no developed feotus
that i suffered a blighted ovum but what
did i pass? was that not it???
I went back into hospital 2 days after the
second scan as they seemed to think i
hadn't passed the contents/sack and they
gave me medical managment ( a tablet and
then 2 lots of pessaries) to induce
miscarrage but nothing happened under
observation and then i had cramping that
night and light bleeding. The only time i
have had reasonably heavy bleeding was
around the days that i passed the large
clot and what i thought was the sack,
otherwise it has been reasonably mild (but
then i do have heavy periods)
I have another scan in 2 weeks, i am
scared i will have to have a D&C as i
feel that would be intrusive for me
personally and don't really want general
anasthetic but i feel impatient waiting,
feel like i'm weird because it doesn't
seem to be a normal process to others and
am desperate for this to be over as i feel
like a zombie waiting for normality to
return and feeling like i am in limbo.
I'm sorry this is such a long post and
hope somebody can give me ome answers -
the Dr's look at me with an uncomfortable
smile when i ask them what is happening
and nobody seems to be able to give me any
answers - it's making me more and more
upset..
Thank you
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Kia
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Re: Is This Normal In Miscarriage? Posted: 05-26-07 02:39am
MagentaJade
wrote:
My first scan showed that
either my dates were wrong or there was no
baby inside the placenta and it had died 2
weeks earlier. We were devestated and
didn't really take it all in and told to
return 1 week later for another scan in
case it was wrong dates and there was
still a pregnancy but we knew it was
over.
well, the baby wouldn't
be in the placenta at all.
The placenta only becomes fully developed
by 12 weeks, so if there was a placenta
there you had to be 11+ weeks.
At this time the amniotic sac is still
minute.
Quote:
I went back for
my second scan and they confirmed that it
was an ended pregnancy. The problem is
that the sack had continued to grow from
12mm at the frst scan to 22mm at the
second
The amniotic sac does not
continue to grow once a pregnancy has
ended
Quote:
and in the middle
of these two scans i had passed a big clot
the size of cassette tape and then a small
white grey sack. I thought that i had
miscarried everything but the scan seemed
to say
otherwise.
If there was still a
pregnancy showing on the scan then you had
not at that point had a miscarriage.
Quote:
I think as there
was no developed feotus that i suffered a
blighted ovum but what did i pass? was
that not
it???
sounds like a large blood
clot and endometrial tissue.
Quote:
I went back into
hospital 2 days after the second scan as
they seemed to think i hadn't passed the
contents/sack and they gave me medical
managment ( a tablet and then 2 lots of
pessaries) to induce miscarrage but
nothing happened under observation and
then i had cramping that night and light
bleeding. The only time i have had
reasonably heavy bleeding was around the
days that i passed the large clot and what
i thought was the sack, otherwise it has
been reasonably mild (but then i do have
heavy periods)
I have another scan in 2 weeks, i am
scared i will have to have a D&C as i
feel that would be intrusive for me
personally and don't really want general
anasthetic but i feel impatient waiting,
feel like i'm weird because it doesn't
seem to be a normal process to others and
am desperate for this to be over as i feel
like a zombie waiting for normality to
return and feeling like i am in limbo.
I'm sorry this is such a long post and
hope somebody can give me ome answers -
the Dr's look at me with an uncomfortable
smile when i ask them what is happening
and nobody seems to be able to give me any
answers - it's making me more and more
upset..
Thank you
You really need to sit down with your
doctor and discuss because we can only
"suppose".
If you hcg levels continue to increase and
the contents of your uterus continue to
grow - that indicates a live pregnancy.
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MagentaJade
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Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 4 Location: UK
Re: Is This Normal In Miscarriage? Posted: 05-26-07 12:25pm
Hi Kia,
I was 13 weeks. There was no baby
developing as it looks from my research as
though it was a blighted ovum, where the
placenta continues to develop after the
cells have stopped multiplying or the baby
has been re-absorbed into the sack as it
wasn't viable. It was still producing
progesteron
"Many women assume their pregnancies are
on track because their hCG levels are
increasing. The placenta can continue to
grow and support itself without a baby for
a short time, and pregnancy hormones can
continue to rise, which would lead a woman
to believe she is still pregnant. A
diagnosis is usually not made until an
ultrasound test shows either an empty womb
or an empty birth sac. "
Quote:
The amniotic sac
does not continue to grow once a pregnancy
has ended
See above
Quote:
If there was
still a pregnancy showing on the scan then
you had not at that point had a
miscarriage.
Quote:
it sounds like a
large blood clot and endometrial tissue.
Quote:
You really need
to sit down with your doctor and discuss
because we can only "suppose".
If you hcg levels continue to increase and
the contents of your uterus continue to
grow - that indicates a live
pregnancy.
Just without a baby which means that
i'm going to have to go through this for a
while longer or go through with a D&C
I don't think i can cope with the not
knowing and waiting when i know that
nothing but pain and depression are going
to result in the end. I just want it over,
i was so sure that what i had passsed was
it and that i could start getting over
this but if my body hasn't realised that
it's all over and to give up then i assume
that all i can do is give it some help.
I just want everything to be over so i can
get back to normality and take some time
before we can try again. I know i'm lucky
in the fact that i didn't see a baby at
the scan and it didn't get further along
than this, but i had already bonded with
th little one that i had pictured growing
inside and the fact that what would be 15
weeks now my body still seems to not want
to let go even though it's over.
Thank you foryour help, i will try and
discuss this with my Doctor but the last
time i was in hospital and then when i
went for he medical management i had a new
SHO doc who didn't seem to know the
answers herself and didn't know what had
happened.. i had to explain to her as she
hadn't even read my notes properly the
first time... That's the UK NHS for you..
Thanks for answering though x
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Re: Is This Normal In Miscarriage? Posted: 05-26-07 12:58pm
MagentaJade
wrote:
I don't think i can cope with the not
knowing and waiting when i know that
nothing but pain and depression are going
to result in the end. I just want it over,
i was so sure that what i had passsed was
it and that i could start getting over
this but if my body hasn't realised that
it's all over and to give up then i assume
that all i can do is give it some help.
i'm so sorry you're going through this. a
similar thing happened to me, i found out
through an u/s at 13 weeks that the baby
had died at 8 weeks. they gave me the
option of waiting for things to happen
naturally or to have a d&c. my baby
had been dead for 5 weeks and i still
hadn't passed anything naturally, who
knows how long it would've taken. i
couldn't even think about having to go on
with my day to day life just waiting for
it to happen, so i decided to have the
d&c.
aside from the terrible circumstances, it
really wasn't that bad. i was asleep
during the procedure and afterwards i had
no cramping and only spotted for about a
day (everyone is different though).
emotionally, i think it's one of the worst
things a person has to go through ever.
please feel free to pm me if you have any
questions or just want to talk or vent.
i'm sorry for your loss.
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Kia
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
Posted: 05-27-07 02:31am
I have had 3 blighted ovum.
The pregnancy does not continue to grow.
Most typically "miscarriage" will occur
around 8-10 weeks if the situation is a
blighted ovum.
The placenta doesn't continue to develop
and the hcg levels fall not rise.
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MagentaJade
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 4 Location: UK
Posted: 05-28-07 16:29pm
Thank you both for your replies x
At the moment i have decided that i may
phone the hospital this week and see if i
can move my scan forward, if it is still
the same or grown then i am going to opt
for the D&C so that i can get some
closure on this as every waking moment is
spent thinking about what has happened/is
happening and it is driving me mad, i
still feel so fragile from it all.
I must be one of the unusual ones kia as
that is what the Dr's told me and the
sonographer measured and i was supposed to
be at 13 and then 14 weeks, but then i
suppose everybodies experiences are
different.
I really appreciate both your feedbacks
though, i wish nobody had to go through
this but if my experience helps somebody
feel less alone in the future as your
feedback has made me feel less alone, then
i will feel happier knowing that.
I will post again when i have had some
further news or made a decision.
Thanks for your feedback though x you have
made me feel more comfortable
Iheartmybostonterrier
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Kia
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
Posted: 05-28-07 16:57pm
I don't think you quite understand hun.
with a blighted ovum the pregnancy can not
grow.
It's not a case of everyone being
different - no info from the egg means it
can not grow.
this is why the hcg levels fall because
there is no viable pregnancy.
Now, maybe your doc isn't telling you
something, but if your pregnancy is
growing and you are more than 8 weeks then
you do not have a blighted ovum.
You might have something else going on and
speculation could lead in allsorts of
directions and really isn't worth starting
because of the many various possibilites.
Get your doctor to talk to you.
but based on your explanation of events
and dates a blighted ovum is not what you
are experiencing
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MagentaJade
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Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 4 Location: UK
Posted: 06-10-07 20:02pm
Hi Kia,
I am now on the other side pretty much and
just wanted to let you know that i found
lots of info that seems to back up what i
believed about blighted ovums, i am not
saying that you are wrong at all, as you
will see from the sites i have posted, it
just doesn't seem that clear cut and black
and white and everybodies experiences
differ slightly as mine did, and i'm sorry
that you have been through this so many
times. i just wanted to make sure that if
anybody else wanted the info it's there.
"Diagnosing a Blighted Ovum
Unlike with a chemical pregnancy, a
blighted ovum cannot be diagnosed by
measuring hCG levels. This is because the
placenta that is present with a blighted
ovum will continue to release hCG for a
short period of time. This can often lead
many women to mistakenly believe that they
are still pregnant. The only sure way to
diagnose a blighted ovum is through an
ultrasound. An abdominal or transvaginal
ultrasound will reveal whether or not a
fetus is developing within your uterus."
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And i found this site to be really
useful.
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Now whether i experienced this or not, i'm
not sure, i can only go on what i have
been told by the doc's and what's out
there on the web...it's not really
important anymore. I just wish nobody had
to go through this at all x
I wish everybody the best luck in the
world with future pregnancies and wish
that this didn't effect anybody X
