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VampD20

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Posted: 02-26-04 11:37am

Now I know most of you here are against abortion and I am too in a way I always thought that people who get pregnant are just stupid enough not to be careful and that I could never take a life.


I have just found out that I am pregnant, and I think i'm roughly 5 weeks along. I am 20 years old and not working as yet and live at home with my parents and boyfriend of 2 years who moved in a few months ago (long story)

i feel so lost as I feel I can't in any way keep this baby, I don't have any money of my own and have around £800 of debt. Also I would be so scared of telling my dad (my mam knows) as he's always thought of me as his little girl and he doesn't even know I have sex!


I have been sleeping with my boyfriend for the full 2 years we have been going out and not once have I got pregnant. I am on the pill but I know its not 100% and we don't use a condom stupid I know, but I haven't had the sh*ts or been sick however I did miss taking it once.


I feel that I can't give this baby up for adoption as once I have it I know I will bond with it instantly as well as when I am carrying it and probably won't want to give it away and it will be so hard to I really can't and if that happens I will go through hell keeping it as well as I have no means to be able to.


I know that having an abortion is wrong to many people and even I know its wrong as I get so upset even thinking of what I will be doing to it so please I don't need any posts saying abortion is wrong, don't do it, your killing a life as I already know that.


All I want is options and ideas as well as a bit of information,

how late can you have an abortion?

Do you get put to sleep?

Ive heard that there is a risk of death is this true? And how often?

And above all ive heard that the baby can feel pain is this true? Crying
or Very sad

and any advice from people who have been through it. Thankyou so much I really need support.
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KissyBai912

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Posted: 02-26-04 12:28pm

Hey hun. I am so sorry that you are in this situation. I am against abortion also, but I know what a hard decision it must be for you. My baby is due in 3 1/2 weeks and I could never even dream of giving him up to someone else. He's mah lil buddy and I have something with him that no one else can ever have with him. So for me, adoption has been totally and completely out of the question since day 1. But i'm lucky. Unlike most people, I have the financial and emotional support I need to be able to have and keep this baby. But I understand not everyone does. But as for your dad, you are 20 years old, you are entitled to have sex if you'd like, and he just has to deal with it. At least you were responsible about it. It's good that your mom knows. Are you sure there is absoloutly no way you can keep the baby? Where do you live? Do they have medicaid or anything like that? I really wish that you would give your baby a chance, but it is you decision. I just want you to think long and hard about it so you know you are making the right decision. I'm here to talk if you need me.
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VampD20

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Posted: 02-26-04 12:56pm

Thanks for your quick reply and offering to listen if I need to talk, that helps alot as I haven't really got many people to turn to right now.

My mam does know about it but she seems a bit dissapointed in me so it makes it hard to talk to her and turn to. As for my boyfriend he is very understanding and supportive however I feel he doesn't fully understand either as he's not the one with a little life growing inside of him Sad

it is sooo sweet hearing about your little baby and being your buddy and all, you must feel such a big bond with him even before he's born. Thats why you can understand how hard it would be to give him up for adoption? If you had decided to do that and then carried the baby this long i'm sure by the time you have him that you wouldn't want to give him up which is why i'm scared to make the decision to keep the baby and give it up for adoption as I know I would bond so much with it and couldn't do it in the end.

I live in newcastle in the uk what do you mean by medicaid?

I would keep the baby if I had the means to as I hate the thought of abortion so much!! It makes me upset just even considering it but I feel so lost and I don't know what to do.

Hope you reply as it really helps hearing peoples thoughts as at first you always feel alone! Sad
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Posted: 02-26-04 13:12pm

I hope this helps.. Please donot have the abortion, you will regret it for the rest of your life. I hear that all the time from people who opted for abortion. I, like you, got pregnant at 19, I didn't have a job, and was very scared.. I was extremely happy after awhile.. But, when I told my dad, he was very upset with me because he didn't even know that I was having sex yet. After awhile, when I started to grow in the tummy area, and he was able to feel the baby kick, and see how happy I was as a mommmy to be, then he was fine, and now he is totally happy. But anyway, I just want to help you by telling you that abortion is not the answer. That baby will love you wether you have money or not. And there are many clinics etc . That will help you with the pregnancy, just check on line, search for insurance for pregnant women etc.. Please, I would hate for you to have the abortion, and then become extrememly depressed etc. Because you would regret it.. Good luck to you, and I hope that you make the best choice for you..
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manfat

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Re: Please Help
Posted: 02-26-04 13:52pm

How late can you have an abortion?

Upto 25 weeks (later if health risks arise)
do you get put to sleep?

Normally you are kept awake, but you can ask to
ive heard that there is a risk of death is this true? And how often?

The risks are minimal + are are normally caused by blood loss due to the dr tearing the uterus, doesnt happen much and can usually be fixed
and above all ive heard that the baby can feel pain is this true? Crying
or Very sad
nobody knows that for sure but is medically highly improbable
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VampD20

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Posted: 02-26-04 14:15pm

Thanks for answering my questions. How do youknow so much? Did you just research or have you been through it?

I didn't know you could have it up to 25 weeks!! Obviously if you do have it its best to get it done earlier.

I am really stuck for what I should do though. But thanks for all your help here its really helped having people to share it with.

One question though, i'm only 5 weeks along, the thing is i'm getting a few pains in my stomach, sort of like the pains you get when you have cramp or when you are constipated and need the toilet. I'm slightly worried about this and wondered if this is normal? The pains aren't really bad and they are bearable but I wondered if it meant anything? I mean i'm having trouble going to the toilet so I wonder if the pains are just that?

Thanks again.
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Posted: 02-26-04 15:41pm

Hi I sincerly feel for you.
And I really hope you think long about this.And I hope your family rally's around you and gives you the support you will need no matter what your decission will be.
I am against abotion.Iam someone who has just went threw another miscarriage.
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VampD20

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Posted: 02-26-04 16:23pm

I am very sorry to hear about your miscarrage it must be awful to go through that and here about people and abortion. My mam had one before she had me.

Its just I feel lost and I really don't know what decision to make. On one hand I want to have a life first, get a place to live of my own and a decent job behind me and enjoy life before having a baby as well as have money behind me and be settled with in myself as well as in life, and on the other hand I want this baby as I am against abortion and I find it hard to think about it even but I feel its my only choice. I wish I could get the baby removed and frozen till I was ready Rolling Eyes I just don't know what to do and I don't want to get an abortion unless I am really sure.

Can anyone also help with the question above, above? About the pains I am getting?
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KissyBai912

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Posted: 02-26-04 16:38pm

I never really had any pains so i'm not sure. Some of the girls on here will tell you they had some though but they sound like you should be ok. They don't sound like miscarriage pains. Medicaid is a form of health insurance here in the us. It covers my pregnancy, and will cover my son for a while after hes born. Which is a good thing because, pregnancy can be very expensive! But if you would like, I can try and look into health insurance in the uk. I will do anything it takes to try and convince you to keep your precious little baby. I honestly don't want you to have an abortion but if you feel it is the answer for you then like I said, i'm here to talk. But remember, you can do it if you really want to. I really think you can manage. You seem to have a very good head on your shoulders and I respect that. I'm so sorry you even have to be in this situation. But i'm still here for you......
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VampD20

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Posted: 02-26-04 17:11pm

Thanks, I would like it if you did look into it and I will to. I think over here in the uk pregnancy and doctors checkup, scans etc are covered by something we have called nhs so its free. We only pay for everything once the baby is born. But thanks for looking up for me I never know where to look exactly so that would be a help.

I really don't want to have an abortion either I just feel trapped, but it would be helpful for any info on health prices etc maybe after birth aswell.

Thank you for being so nice and helpful I really need that right now, makes me feel less alone in this.

Its funny, I don't know if anyone can relate but even though im only 5 - 6 weeks I already feel close to it in some strange way which makes the decision harder for me.

The pains i'm getting aren't strong and they would be if I was having a miscarriage I presume so I think its just typical back pain and cramps.

You say your 3 half weeks away from giving birth, you excited? Thought up names? Did you ever face the thought of abortion? Or is your situation ideal as in planned?

Thanks again Smile for once today i'm smiling.
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KissyBai912

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Posted: 02-26-04 17:29pm

Yes I am getting very excited......Very scared and nervous too. His name is going to be joshua blake dewitt. No it was not planned. The condom broke. The thought of abortion never crossed my mind. I just knew I couldn't do it. And like I said, from the start, adoption was never an option for me. I respect you so much for looking into other options. That makes me so happy. But I agree with your comment on wishing you could freeze the baby until you are ready to have it. Lol.....I kind of wish I could have to. But I wouldn't change anything for the world right now. I will definately try doing a little research on insurance in new castle. I am home practically all day every day since I can't go to school until april, so I have lots of time on my hands. I will definately let you know if I find anything! And I hope you feel lots better! I am here whenever you need to talk! If you have yahoo, my screen name is sneakyfreakygrl and you could talk to me on that. I really hope we can find a way to make this work so you can keep your baby!
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VampD20

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Posted: 02-26-04 17:46pm

Thanks so much.

How old are you by the way?

Well i'm off to bed now as I am sooo tired ( don't know why that could be Wink )

i look forward to reading your posts soon and i'll download yahoo to add you to the list. You have been really helpful.

And I am definatly looking into everything first as I hate the thought of abortion.

You never know one day they may come up with a way to freeze the baby till your ready lol

thanks again and I look forward to hearing from you and what you have found for insurance etc. Smile
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KissyBai912

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Posted: 02-26-04 18:03pm

Actually I am only 14. I will be 15 on march 15th. I am very young and I know it but I absoloutly refused to do anything other than keep this baby. My mom was very upset, but now she loves him. She loves to kiss him and let him kick her in the face! Lol it's so funny. She call's him nana's boy. And she got a sign for the front yard that says "it's a grandson" to put out on saturday for my baby shower! Lol.....She cracks me up sometimes. But I don't know what I would do without her.....She's been so great through all this. I can't believe the way I used to treat her! She always said I was gonna regret it one day and by god she was right! Lol. Luckily my mom is kind and forgiving and I lover her to death. I still hate some of the things she does, but I love her. I just wish everyone mother was as supportive and helpful as mine. By the way, maybe you should try coming over to the teen pregnancy forum. Most of the girls there are great and so helpful. I'm sure they would love you! I'm a little tired but it's only 6 pm here! Lol. My head hurts from staring at this screen. I'm going to start a little research on uk insurance right now. I will post if I find anything. Good night and get some rest. Don't stress! We'll do what we can to help you and your little one.
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KissyBai912

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Posted: 02-26-04 18:54pm

I'm not having much luck with this search but here is a couple of things that might help....But i'm not sure since I don't know your history. Try it and see.


Http://www.Dwp.Gov.Uk/lifeevent/famchild/ fc_expecting_a_baby.Asp

http://www.Dwp.Gov.Uk/lifeevent/ben efits/new_deal_for_young_people.Asp

i hope these help. I will keep looking. Lol. It would make me feel less confused if I could translate pounds to dollars! Lol. But if I find anything else, I will post it here.

I found another for after the baby is born.

H ttp://www.Dwp.Gov.Uk/lifeevent/famchild/fc _bring_up_child.Asp
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VampD20

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Posted: 02-27-04 04:25am

Thanks for having a look!! Some of that helped.

Wow I didn't know you were 14, you act and sound alot older on here it must have been hard to decide to keep the baby but i'm so glad you could make that choice.

I'm off out today, to the doctors for a chat and check Smile its been snowing here though so its soooooo cold outside.

I was thinking, have you got an email? As we can email instead of here lol

thanks so much.
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KissyBai912

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Posted: 02-27-04 13:22pm

Yeah I am only 14....Lol. I'm glad it helped some. I will keep looking. Good luck at the doctors! I am about to leave for a doctors appt. Too. I am 37 weeks today! Yay! Not too much longer.....Hope everything goes well and I will talk to you later. Tata for now!
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Posted: 03-10-04 21:57pm

Hi guys,

i know that everyone is against abortion. I was too. When I was 17, I got pregnant. I was stupid in thinking that it had only been a week since I had been off the pill, it would still be effective. I went through hell. I had major morning sickness. On top of that, the baby's father had moved away. These are the thoughts that went through my head. If I keep this baby, I have no money, no job. Even if I get a job, I wouldn't be able to afford somewhere to live and support my baby. I also couldn't give my baby up for adoption. Like many of you have said, I know I would bond instantly. I made the decision of having an abortion. I was put to sleep for the operation. Do I regret it? I believe I made a good choice. If I would've had the baby, my child's life would not have been a good one and if I gave it up for adoption, I couldn't live with the fact that my child was somewhere out there. I truly don't believe i'm a bad person for choosing abortion. I don't believe in people who get them as a method of birth control. I really had no choice. No one would've supported me. I'm not telling you what to do. That's a choice you have to make on your own or with your boyfriend. I just understand what you're going through. Not knowing what to do is really hard on a person. I wish you all the best in whatever decision you make.

Kit
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Posted: 03-10-04 22:35pm

Anyone who has been in this situation knows exactly what i'm talking about. A child thinking about having a child is clearly going to be confused. It may have been selfish, according to you, but that's the decision I made when I was young.

Kit
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Posted: 03-11-04 02:33am

I don't look at it as killing my child. I did what was best for my child at the time. Sometimes, you don't have a choice. There are so many kids that don't get adopted and move around from foster to foster home or live in orphanages.
Some people look at it as a killing a child, but think it's ok to abort if there's something wrong with it. I don't believe that when you first get pregnant that the baby has a life. I know i'll get bashed on that one, but that's how I feel. That was the hardest thing i've ever had to do in my life and i'm not going to "hate" myself over it forever. I felt terrible at first, but I know my unborn child knows what I did was for the best.
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Posted: 03-11-04 02:55am

You say you dont agree with people who use it as a method of birth control & yet you aborted because stupidly you thought the pill was still effective when you came off it.This sounds like you're one of those people who aborted as a form of birth control because you didnt read the instructions that came with the pill
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