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ET_mtl

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Anybody Have An Idea of What This Problem Might Be ?
Posted: 06-08-07 20:26pm

Hi all
I am hypoglycemic and I have been following a good diet for a while now , but I feel as if things were getting worse. One of my biggest problem is that everytime I eat I get a huge crash right after. I can wake up in the morning , eat a good breakfast and then go do physical work until 1-2 pm without eating and I feel somehow ok , but if I had a snack in the middle usually consisting of 1 portion of protein and 1 really small prtion of carb I have a big crash. And in the afternoon if I dont go back to work its even worse I feel tired and dizzy most afternoon and this nomather what i eat ive tried alot of combination. And trust me I eat really good kind of like the stan diet.
Before I use to be able to tolerate more things and i could occasionnaly have food that wasnt perfect and it was somehow working ok but its seem the more effort i might the worst i feel , I am really mixed up. I will see my doctor in abouth a week to figure out if I might have other problem,

Does this sound normal fo an hypoglycemic , i mean i havent had sugar or anything real bad in like a year and been even more serious the last 5 months , im starting to thing that hypoglycemia might not be the source of my problem its like if I was becoming more and more sensible the more carefull i get.

Anyways right now i am a mess , i dont go out much always recovering from the last crash . life is not to funny , I also do alot of yoga relaxation , visualization , but damm just seem like my body is not following or something.

Anyways
If anyone ever experience this !!
Mad
Etienne
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ET_mtl

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Posted: 06-08-07 20:29pm

Just wanted to had that hypoglycemia even tought im on a fairly high protein regiment made me loose weight , people that havent seen me in awhile say i lost weight Sad thats not good since i always was fairly thin !
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Posted: 06-09-07 08:02am

You're not doing something right with your diet. For you to still be getting bad crashes after over a year means your diet is incorrect. What are you currently eating (give details)?
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ET_mtl

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Posted: 06-10-07 19:36pm

hey I will give you an example of what a average day might look like

Waking up in the morning 7h30-8:00
Breakfast: 1 piece of toast , 2 eggs , coupel of nuts , some vegies
other example: 1 piece of toast with cheese , some chicken , vegies

Then heres the strange part , I go to work feeling not so bad (not energized tought) and i can keep working until 1 oclock in the afternoon 2 easyl without any real problem. I dont do it i usually eat around 11h30 12-30 .

If i eat a snack after 2 hour 2-30 hour i get a big crash that last until diner at least
Usual snack that cause crash : basically anything , ive tried them all , a little bit of nuts with a tiny piece of toast, couple of bluberries with a little cheese, chicken with a small tomatoes.

But weirdly if I keep working ill feel fine and feel as if i could work all afternoon until 2 thats for sure.

Then when i go and eat dinner if i dont go to work right away after i will slownly start to feel more and more tired until i passed out on the couce (then i can sleep for a while , if i go to work it usually get better after a while and the rest of the day is so so but better then if didnt went to work ( i do landscaping wich is pretty physical but i suspect that any other work that would consist of sitting on a chair i would feel really tired)

My dinner vary alot but like i said its always pretty balance ,
example yesterday that cause a crash
Salmon , mixed with salad cucumber avocado , and a little bit of bread ( tried alot of 100% complete type of bread, and i dont think they cause a crash because its he same without it , i tried with a couple of rawsberrie its the same.

My point here is that i eat pretty good hypoglycemic diet and my problem are always when i eat , eating doesnt energized me it does the opposite , so peraps the problem lies somwhere else lier maybe ?? i dont know , but this sucks. A year ago when i start eating hypoglycemic i was able to support fruits , much bigger meal and it wasnt has bad as now. Right now i feel more relax and ive learn to accept my condition and i have an amazing businness wich is really positive , but its seem like my problem with food has worsen alot and im a little desperate since i dont know in wich direction to look anymore.

I am thinking maybe some andidepressant would give me a boost or something but still , im pretty sure my problem isnt with depression, sometimes if i go to bed late 12-1 or 2 in the morning i feel much better and i go to bed after some yoga feeling really really relax and in peace with my mind , and then the next morning BANG here we go again.
I sometimes feel like if this diet ive been following is fragilizing me or something.

I mean my meal are very varied , ive cut all sugar 000 all fast carbs , almost no fruits , eat lots of fish etc etc but still im feeling overall down. My point is to heal from this condition and live a normal life again. like i tell you i dont think my diet is the problem right now , it wouldnt be worse then before.

I know i might still be doin some error like the bread you say no more then 1 piece a day ( i might actually be eating a little more then that) but i think i should be feeling alot better anyways , i will see my doctor this thursday , i hope i can find a solution to this mess .

Anyways thank for the answer
good luck with your own stuff
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Posted: 06-11-07 09:37am

1. First off, you need to be having a bit of fruit for breakfast to get the glucose level up and keep it fairly stable until your next meal. What kind of bread are you eating (be specific)? What kind of nuts? What kind of vegetables?

2. Second, you're waiting way too long to eat your next meal. The first thing I tell people to do is eat around every two hours and then slowly build up to around 3 1/2 to 4 hours each day. You're taking nearly a 5 hour jump there, which is more than even a normal person can take for the most part.

3. You keep mentioning toast as a snack, which it should never be. You should have one piece in the morning to start, and that's it. That's too much of a jump for a snack, nuts are just fine, but I'm wondering what kind of nuts you're eating. If it's peanuts and cashews, there's your problem right there.

4. It sounds like you're feeling fine because you've burned up the morning energy, but because you have none left when you eat your next meal, and your body will still shoot out more insulin than necessary, there isn't anything in you to keep it level, so it feels like hell. You need to be eating regularly.

5. Another thing is don't assume anything is the same without vigorous testing. If one day you have bread and get a crash and then next day don't eat it and get a crash, it means nothing. For me, a piece of bread later in the day will have effects for up to 1 and 1/2 weeks!!!! Anything I try to test or figure out in that time is pointless because the effect from the bread is still being felt. It takes at least 4-5 days for something you ate to leave your system and the effects to go away from it.

6. If you want antidepressants it's up to you, but keep in mind they may mask symptoms you were aware of and you'll make the mistake of thinking you're better and eating slightly worse, to only come off the medication and find out it was the biggest mistake of your life.

7. Your diet is probably just incorrect, trust me, that bread and the nuts are sticking out already, so that's likely the problem. Don't think it can't make a difference because the smallest thing can, I know from direct experience.

8. I'm not sure why you're going to the doctor, unless they're versed on hypoglycemia it will be a wasted trip.
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Posted: 07-07-07 16:21pm

Hey stan ,
Thx alot for the answer , sry for the late response, i was away in vacation.
I am hearing you on the diet , i have cut down on alot of carbs , the bread i eat is 100 % whole weath bread not commercial , without yeast because i have a problem with the i cant support it.

Now i really want to improve my healt and do you think that

this could be a good programm to follow to start fresh ??

Also what do you think abouth this type of natural supplement made strictly for hypoglycemic ???

Thanks for all the answer
Ciao
Etienne
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Posted: 07-07-07 19:42pm

That's a heck of a lot of stuff to do, though it wouldn't necessarily hurt you. Be aware that cleansing supplements always contain some sort of powerful herb that is typically a strong hypoglycemic. You would be good to keep yourself healthy with cleaning and such as recommended, but the best diet you can try from scratch is the one found in Saunder's Hypoglycemia book. That's the title, Hypoglycemia. You can just go to the store and read it real quick and write stuff down and go home and try it. That site is pretty extreme.
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Posted: 07-08-07 19:04pm

Ok i am definitly going to order that book ....

Do you think that antidepressant can be good in combination with the right diet. Because like i told you before i eat really well but even tought i cant go a day without a big afternoon crash or symptoms free. All those problem started with lots of stress i had before and i am wondering if antidepressant might give me the boost i am looking for.

I will give you an example of what i eat , my diet is not really different from yours if not the same.

Morning proteins
Then protein every 2 - 2h30 hours
Couple of fruits blackberrie or rawsberrie with breakfaast or diner or a oiece of 100 % whole weath bread in the morning instead of cuple of fruits sometimes.

Then protein and vegetable the rest of the day , its pretty much the same as you , nut only almond and walnut small portion at a time..

I also was tested for food alergies with better healt usa , tested postive to cow milk some sea fruit , wheat (my bread is made from something else now , french call épautre) and brewer yest (I was really reactive to brewer yeast so i might suspect some candida issue.

Sometime i am wondering what part of al this is psychological and what part physical , tough i am dont want to make things worst with antidepressant and those are last resort option , but at this point anything that would give me a boost might be welcome. I also lke the fact that antidepressant might increase weight , tought not looking sick thin I definitly lost weight with all this crap and gaining some back would be a healty sign for me.

Right now im not really stressed ou abouth anything but I suspect everything started with stress and alot of anxiety at the job couple of years ago and then hypoglycemia mixed itself in and here I am.

I am a reallyt determine person and i am really dicipline , havent had alcooh in a real long time neither any type of sugar and ppl around sure party alot. I dont mind all that but i would like to feel much better to be worth it.

Anyways sry for the long email , sometimes i think its only a small thing not working and when it will be fixed i will feel like WOW.

But it might be time i try the psychological anxiety route

Thx for all the answers its really appreciated
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aemakhmaltchi

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Posted: 07-08-07 21:53pm

Hello~
I understand what you are going through, as I am hypoglycemic as well.... I had very low energy levels and became very grouchy and tired after I ate meals.... Also, I was finding it very difficult to wake up in the morning and get my day started... I finally started to eat as SOON as I woke up (avoiding breads), and I would eat every 3 hours thereof.... I also stepped up my workout routine, which occasionally leaves me tired, but I think its because my body is not used to the low level of carbohydrates.... I used to weigh 210lbs and now I weigh 145lbs because I found out that I was hypoglycemic and I took action to control it. Go to bed at a decent hour, eat as soon as you wake up, eat every 3 to 3.5 hours, avoid carbs until lunch time, and try not to eat too late unless you are going to be involved in some sort of vigorous activity like dancing....Also, be sure to take a daily vitamin..it has helped me cure my anemia, decrease symptoms of hypoglycemia and also helped me overcome depression.... Drink lots of water! You sound like you take care of yourself already, you just need to find out what is the missing piece to the puzzle!
Good Luck!
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Posted: 07-08-07 22:37pm

Great advice there, though I should say that over time you should feel more energy when you work out, but you might not notice that for awhile. As for your comments and questions:

1. Antidepressants could be helpful, yes, but be careful. The problem with them is that they will be not giving you a boost necessarily as much as they will be masking your symptoms. This could lead you to believe you're better than you are since mental symptoms usually occur more frequently due to the glucose issue with the brain, so not feeling bad may make you eat a little worse than normal. Lexapro seems to be a good one with hardly any side effects.

2. What is sea fruit? Can you really have an allergy to brewer's yeast? That's kind of strange because it isn't really a food, and it has nothing to do with candida. If you had candida it would actually eat it and control the overgrowth of it.

3. A bit is mental, but once you start getting better and your mind is under control you'll see that very little of it is. It just takes time.

4. Again, don't expect to feel better immediately, depending on how long this has been going on without you knowing it and how severe, it could be a few months before you really feel like yourself again or even start to.

5. What do you mean the psychological anxiety route?
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ET_mtl

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Posted: 07-23-07 11:15am

Hey thank you guys for the answer , sry if it takes a while to answer i read them tought .

I saw my doctor couple of days ago (wich is a really open doctor , he works with natural remedies, homeopatic and traditionnal stuff as well )

He found my pressure to be pretty low so he prescibed me as followed
Parazyme from renew life with every meal wich seem to have helped with digestion (i was taking it before)
And some stuff for the adrenal

So heres what I am taking beef adrenal extract twice a day , ortho adapt
htt p://www.relentlessimprovement.com/catalog/ ortho-adapt.htm

and also some omega oil 3 times a day

He thinks my nervous system is weak
From is opinion with my diet my sugar level should have been much better by now and the root of the problem is somwhere else probably with a weak nervous system and others i dont really remember.

He wanted to do a trial with some anxiety drug for a week or so but he ended up prescribing some effexor xr.

Now I really dont know if I am going to take the antidepressant because if I do so it probably will have to be for a while, I am sure it will help but i dont want it to mask the problem instead of treating it.

The yeast allergie is from a test at immuno lab wich check your reaction to various food and product , i didnt react to alot of things but had strong reaction to brewer yeast and another kinfd of yeast wich make sens because since cutting those product my digestion is better.

When i talk abouth the anxiety route , I mean that in my opinion those problems started with lots of anxiety and stress that sooon invade every aspect of my life and create the problem I have now with hypoglycemia.

Now the number one thing I have to do is quit smoking I quitted for 2 month but started again, i am a light smoker 4-5 cig a day but I really have to quit for good now since this is probably the worst thing I can do for myself.

Hey aemakhmaltchi how ong did it take for you to be yourself again and by now can you lead a normal life ???

The thing that so depressing in my case is that I always was a really social and outgoing person , I am 22 , I wish i could sometime go out with friends and have fun like I used to flirt with girls and have a few drink. I know i still can but its not the same by often feeling out of it or having sudden drop of energy I am also not feeling mentally well at time.

Anyways I will see what I am going to do with the meds.

For the weight issue I use to be 160 now ive dropped to 150 why would hypoglcemia cause that everyone talk abouth gaining weight , I always feel liek i could eat 5 meal in a row especially at night. (the gain weight aspect of andidepressant is one side effect i would probably be happy to have !! )

Anyways I will keep you informed
The last few days since i started the regiment i feel better , i havent started the antidepressant but ive tried some ativan and something else for anxiety and they did help a lot ( i know those are addictive so i will not take them for to long , it was mostly for a test)

I dont really feel anxious abouth anything but it seem like my mind stayed anxious from al the stress I had before so its always stayed in a fight or flight mode or something.

Thank you
Etienne
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Posted: 07-23-07 15:59pm

Yeah, watch that ativan. I would have recommended lexapro for anxiety instead of effexor, but that's just me. It could be good for you because I believe the anxiety is not the main issue, it's the sugar. I myself never believed what it could do until it went away and I saw how much it effected every aspect of my life. You'll probably be taking it for around 9 months or so and then weened off of it.
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Eating every two hours
Posted: 02-08-08 21:58pm

Stan,

After I read this post (see above) about 10 days ago I started eating every two hours as you suggest, and I do believe that is helping my symptoms alot. Thanks for the advice, and thanks for working this forum. It means alot to people to have an expert that knows what this whole" blood-sugar-affecting-the-brain" situation is all about.
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