Anybody Have An Idea of What This Problem Might Be ? Posted: 06-08-07 20:26pm
Hi all
I am hypoglycemic and I have been
following a good diet for a while now ,
but I feel as if things were getting
worse. One of my biggest problem is that
everytime I eat I get a huge crash right
after. I can wake up in the morning , eat
a good breakfast and then go do physical
work until 1-2 pm without eating and I
feel somehow ok , but if I had a snack in
the middle usually consisting of 1 portion
of protein and 1 really small prtion of
carb I have a big crash. And in the
afternoon if I dont go back to work its
even worse I feel tired and dizzy most
afternoon and this nomather what i eat ive
tried alot of combination. And trust me I
eat really good kind of like the stan
diet.
Before I use to be able to tolerate more
things and i could occasionnaly have food
that wasnt perfect and it was somehow
working ok but its seem the more effort i
might the worst i feel , I am really mixed
up. I will see my doctor in abouth a week
to figure out if I might have other
problem,
Does this sound normal fo an hypoglycemic
, i mean i havent had sugar or anything
real bad in like a year and been even more
serious the last 5 months , im starting to
thing that hypoglycemia might not be the
source of my problem its like if I was
becoming more and more sensible the more
carefull i get.
Anyways right now i am a mess , i dont go
out much always recovering from the last
crash . life is not to funny , I also do
alot of yoga relaxation , visualization ,
but damm just seem like my body is not
following or something.
Anyways
If anyone ever experience this !!
Etienne
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ET_mtl
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Posted: 06-08-07 20:29pm
Just wanted to had that hypoglycemia even
tought im on a fairly high protein
regiment made me loose weight , people
that havent seen me in awhile say i lost
weight thats not good
since i always was fairly thin !
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Stan
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Posted: 06-09-07 08:02am
You're not doing something right with your
diet. For you to still be getting bad
crashes after over a year means your diet
is incorrect. What are you currently
eating (give details)?
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ET_mtl
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Posted: 06-10-07 19:36pm
hey I will give you an example of what a
average day might look like
Waking up in the morning 7h30-8:00
Breakfast: 1 piece of toast , 2 eggs ,
coupel of nuts , some vegies
other example: 1 piece of toast with
cheese , some chicken , vegies
Then heres the strange part , I go to work
feeling not so bad (not energized tought)
and i can keep working until 1 oclock in
the afternoon 2 easyl without any real
problem. I dont do it i usually eat around
11h30 12-30 .
If i eat a snack after 2 hour 2-30 hour i
get a big crash that last until diner at
least
Usual snack that cause crash : basically
anything , ive tried them all , a little
bit of nuts with a tiny piece of toast,
couple of bluberries with a little cheese,
chicken with a small tomatoes.
But weirdly if I keep working ill feel
fine and feel as if i could work all
afternoon until 2 thats for sure.
Then when i go and eat dinner if i dont go
to work right away after i will slownly
start to feel more and more tired until i
passed out on the couce (then i can sleep
for a while , if i go to work it usually
get better after a while and the rest of
the day is so so but better then if didnt
went to work ( i do landscaping wich is
pretty physical but i suspect that any
other work that would consist of sitting
on a chair i would feel really tired)
My dinner vary alot but like i said its
always pretty balance ,
example yesterday that cause a crash
Salmon , mixed with salad cucumber avocado
, and a little bit of bread ( tried alot
of 100% complete type of bread, and i dont
think they cause a crash because its he
same without it , i tried with a couple of
rawsberrie its the same.
My point here is that i eat pretty good
hypoglycemic diet and my problem are
always when i eat , eating doesnt
energized me it does the opposite , so
peraps the problem lies somwhere else lier
maybe ?? i dont know , but this sucks. A
year ago when i start eating hypoglycemic
i was able to support fruits , much bigger
meal and it wasnt has bad as now. Right
now i feel more relax and ive learn to
accept my condition and i have an amazing
businness wich is really positive , but
its seem like my problem with food has
worsen alot and im a little desperate
since i dont know in wich direction to
look anymore.
I am thinking maybe some andidepressant
would give me a boost or something but
still , im pretty sure my problem isnt
with depression, sometimes if i go to bed
late 12-1 or 2 in the morning i feel much
better and i go to bed after some yoga
feeling really really relax and in peace
with my mind , and then the next morning
BANG here we go again.
I sometimes feel like if this diet ive
been following is fragilizing me or
something.
I mean my meal are very varied , ive cut
all sugar 000 all fast carbs , almost no
fruits , eat lots of fish etc etc but
still im feeling overall down. My point is
to heal from this condition and live a
normal life again. like i tell you i dont
think my diet is the problem right now ,
it wouldnt be worse then before.
I know i might still be doin some error
like the bread you say no more then 1
piece a day ( i might actually be eating a
little more then that) but i think i
should be feeling alot better anyways , i
will see my doctor this thursday , i hope
i can find a solution to this mess .
Anyways thank for the answer
good luck with your own stuff
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Posted: 06-11-07 09:37am
1. First off, you need to be having a bit
of fruit for breakfast to get the glucose
level up and keep it fairly stable until
your next meal. What kind of bread are
you eating (be specific)? What kind of
nuts? What kind of vegetables?
2. Second, you're waiting way too long to
eat your next meal. The first thing I
tell people to do is eat around every two
hours and then slowly build up to around 3
1/2 to 4 hours each day. You're taking
nearly a 5 hour jump there, which is more
than even a normal person can take for the
most part.
3. You keep mentioning toast as a snack,
which it should never be. You should have
one piece in the morning to start, and
that's it. That's too much of a
jump for a snack, nuts are just fine, but
I'm wondering what kind of nuts you're
eating. If it's peanuts and cashews,
there's your problem right there.
4. It sounds like you're feeling fine
because you've burned up the morning
energy, but because you have none left
when you eat your next meal, and your body
will still shoot out more insulin than
necessary, there isn't anything in you to
keep it level, so it feels like hell. You
need to be eating regularly.
5. Another thing is don't assume anything
is the same without vigorous testing. If
one day you have bread and get a crash and
then next day don't eat it and get a
crash, it means nothing. For me, a piece
of bread later in the day will have
effects for up to 1 and 1/2 weeks!!!!
Anything I try to test or figure out in
that time is pointless because the effect
from the bread is still being felt. It
takes at least 4-5 days for something you
ate to leave your system and the effects
to go away from it.
6. If you want antidepressants it's up to
you, but keep in mind they may mask
symptoms you were aware of and you'll make
the mistake of thinking you're better and
eating slightly worse, to only come off
the medication and find out it was the
biggest mistake of your life.
7. Your diet is probably just incorrect,
trust me, that bread and the nuts are
sticking out already, so that's likely the
problem. Don't think it can't make a
difference because the smallest thing can,
I know from direct experience.
8. I'm not sure why you're going to the
doctor, unless they're versed on
hypoglycemia it will be a wasted trip.
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ET_mtl
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Posted: 07-07-07 16:21pm
Hey stan ,
Thx alot for the answer , sry for the late
response, i was away in vacation.
I am hearing you on the diet , i have cut
down on alot of carbs , the bread i eat is
100 % whole weath bread not commercial ,
without yeast because i have a problem
with the i cant support it.
Now i really want to improve my healt and
do you think that
this could be a good programm to follow to
start fresh ??
Also what do you think abouth this type of
natural supplement made strictly for
hypoglycemic ???
Thanks for all the answer
Ciao
Etienne
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Stan
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Posted: 07-07-07 19:42pm
That's a heck of a lot of stuff to do,
though it wouldn't necessarily hurt you.
Be aware that cleansing supplements always
contain some sort of powerful herb that is
typically a strong hypoglycemic. You
would be good to keep yourself healthy
with cleaning and such as recommended, but
the best diet you can try from scratch is
the one found in Saunder's Hypoglycemia
book. That's the title, Hypoglycemia.
You can just go to the store and read it
real quick and write stuff down and go
home and try it. That site is pretty
extreme.
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ET_mtl
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Posted: 07-08-07 19:04pm
Ok i am definitly going to order that book
....
Do you think that antidepressant can be
good in combination with the right diet.
Because like i told you before i eat
really well but even tought i cant go a
day without a big afternoon crash or
symptoms free. All those problem started
with lots of stress i had before and i am
wondering if antidepressant might give me
the boost i am looking for.
I will give you an example of what i eat ,
my diet is not really different from yours
if not the same.
Morning proteins
Then protein every 2 - 2h30 hours
Couple of fruits blackberrie or rawsberrie
with breakfaast or diner or a oiece of 100
% whole weath bread in the morning instead
of cuple of fruits sometimes.
Then protein and vegetable the rest of the
day , its pretty much the same as you ,
nut only almond and walnut small portion
at a time..
I also was tested for food alergies with
better healt usa , tested postive to cow
milk some sea fruit , wheat (my bread is
made from something else now , french call
épautre) and brewer yest (I was really
reactive to brewer yeast so i might
suspect some candida issue.
Sometime i am wondering what part of al
this is psychological and what part
physical , tough i am dont want to make
things worst with antidepressant and those
are last resort option , but at this point
anything that would give me a boost might
be welcome. I also lke the fact that
antidepressant might increase weight ,
tought not looking sick thin I definitly
lost weight with all this crap and gaining
some back would be a healty sign for me.
Right now im not really stressed ou abouth
anything but I suspect everything started
with stress and alot of anxiety at the job
couple of years ago and then hypoglycemia
mixed itself in and here I am.
I am a reallyt determine person and i am
really dicipline , havent had alcooh in a
real long time neither any type of sugar
and ppl around sure party alot. I dont
mind all that but i would like to feel
much better to be worth it.
Anyways sry for the long email , sometimes
i think its only a small thing not working
and when it will be fixed i will feel like
WOW.
But it might be time i try the
psychological anxiety route
Thx for all the answers its really
appreciated
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aemakhmaltchi
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I Was In the Same Boat Posted: 07-08-07 21:53pm
Hello~
I understand what you are going through,
as I am hypoglycemic as well.... I had
very low energy levels and became very
grouchy and tired after I ate meals....
Also, I was finding it very difficult to
wake up in the morning and get my day
started... I finally started to eat as
SOON as I woke up (avoiding breads), and I
would eat every 3 hours thereof.... I also
stepped up my workout routine, which
occasionally leaves me tired, but I think
its because my body is not used to the low
level of carbohydrates.... I used to weigh
210lbs and now I weigh 145lbs because I
found out that I was hypoglycemic and I
took action to control it. Go to bed at
a decent hour, eat as soon as you wake up,
eat every 3 to 3.5 hours, avoid carbs
until lunch time, and try not to eat too
late unless you are going to be involved
in some sort of vigorous activity like
dancing....Also, be sure to take a daily
vitamin..it has helped me cure my anemia,
decrease symptoms of hypoglycemia and also
helped me overcome depression.... Drink
lots of water! You sound like you take
care of yourself already, you just need to
find out what is the missing piece to the
puzzle!
Good Luck!
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Posted: 07-08-07 22:37pm
Great advice there, though I should say
that over time you should feel more energy
when you work out, but you might not
notice that for awhile. As for your
comments and questions:
1. Antidepressants could be helpful, yes,
but be careful. The problem with them is
that they will be not giving you a boost
necessarily as much as they will be
masking your symptoms. This could lead
you to believe you're better than you are
since mental symptoms usually occur more
frequently due to the glucose issue with
the brain, so not feeling bad may make you
eat a little worse than normal. Lexapro
seems to be a good one with hardly any
side effects.
2. What is sea fruit? Can you really have
an allergy to brewer's yeast? That's kind
of strange because it isn't really a food,
and it has nothing to do with candida. If
you had candida it would actually eat it
and control the overgrowth of it.
3. A bit is mental, but once you start
getting better and your mind is under
control you'll see that very little of it
is. It just takes time.
4. Again, don't expect to feel better
immediately, depending on how long this
has been going on without you knowing it
and how severe, it could be a few months
before you really feel like yourself again
or even start to.
5. What do you mean the psychological
anxiety route?
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ET_mtl
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Posted: 07-23-07 11:15am
Hey thank you guys for the answer , sry if
it takes a while to answer i read them
tought .
I saw my doctor couple of days ago (wich
is a really open doctor , he works with
natural remedies, homeopatic and
traditionnal stuff as well )
He found my pressure to be pretty low so
he prescibed me as followed
Parazyme from renew life with every meal
wich seem to have helped with digestion (i
was taking it before)
And some stuff for the adrenal
He thinks my nervous system is weak
From is opinion with my diet my sugar
level should have been much better by now
and the root of the problem is somwhere
else probably with a weak nervous system
and others i dont really remember.
He wanted to do a trial with some anxiety
drug for a week or so but he ended up
prescribing some effexor xr.
Now I really dont know if I am going to
take the antidepressant because if I do so
it probably will have to be for a while, I
am sure it will help but i dont want it to
mask the problem instead of treating it.
The yeast allergie is from a test at
immuno lab wich check your reaction to
various food and product , i didnt react
to alot of things but had strong reaction
to brewer yeast and another kinfd of yeast
wich make sens because since cutting those
product my digestion is better.
When i talk abouth the anxiety route , I
mean that in my opinion those problems
started with lots of anxiety and stress
that sooon invade every aspect of my life
and create the problem I have now with
hypoglycemia.
Now the number one thing I have to do is
quit smoking I quitted for 2 month but
started again, i am a light smoker 4-5 cig
a day but I really have to quit for good
now since this is probably the worst thing
I can do for myself.
Hey aemakhmaltchi how ong did it take for
you to be yourself again and by now can
you lead a normal life ???
The thing that so depressing in my case is
that I always was a really social and
outgoing person , I am 22 , I wish i could
sometime go out with friends and have fun
like I used to flirt with girls and have a
few drink. I know i still can but its not
the same by often feeling out of it or
having sudden drop of energy I am also not
feeling mentally well at time.
Anyways I will see what I am going to do
with the meds.
For the weight issue I use to be 160 now
ive dropped to 150 why would hypoglcemia
cause that everyone talk abouth gaining
weight , I always feel liek i could eat 5
meal in a row especially at night. (the
gain weight aspect of andidepressant is
one side effect i would probably be happy
to have !! )
Anyways I will keep you informed
The last few days since i started the
regiment i feel better , i havent started
the antidepressant but ive tried some
ativan and something else for anxiety and
they did help a lot ( i know those are
addictive so i will not take them for to
long , it was mostly for a test)
I dont really feel anxious abouth anything
but it seem like my mind stayed anxious
from al the stress I had before so its
always stayed in a fight or flight mode or
something.
Thank you
Etienne
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Posted: 07-23-07 15:59pm
Yeah, watch that ativan. I would have
recommended lexapro for anxiety instead of
effexor, but that's just me. It could be
good for you because I believe the anxiety
is not the main issue, it's the sugar. I
myself never believed what it could do
until it went away and I saw how much it
effected every aspect of my life. You'll
probably be taking it for around 9 months
or so and then weened off of it.
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kybratcher
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Eating every two hours Posted: 02-08-08 21:58pm
Stan,
After I read this post (see above) about
10 days ago I started eating every two
hours as you suggest, and I do believe
that is helping my symptoms alot. Thanks
for the advice, and thanks for working
this forum. It means alot to people to
have an expert that knows what this whole"
blood-sugar-affecting-the-brain" situation
is all about.