cons - the government regulated pot has
seeds, which makes us all sterile
but seriously, there are alternatives to
medical marijuana. I just cant help but
think they are using cancer patients etc.
to try and sneek in the world wide
leagalization of marijuana. I am all for
leagallizing it, but I think medical
marijuana is just a made up reason to make
it widely
available.
I'm not sure what the alternatives are,
exactly. Could you expound? Are these
alternatives as cheaply had and widely
distributed? Side effects?
Thanks.
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kaerbear
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Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 1557 Location: ,
Posted: 07-28-07 06:16am
I just don't understand why no one ever
talks about the fact that marijuana is
being sold by criminals. These are people
in gangs who don't give a rat's behind
about your health or wellbeing. They are
the same people who will kill others to
protect their lucrative business, they
sell other drugs like crack and meth,
which are comparable in price and will
even go out of their way to give drugs to
kids with a pager number if they want to
get more. They have a vested interest in
getting people hooked on drugs and will
add harder drugs to weed so that people
are not just smoking that "natural herb"
that they are always talking about. I
know some of the weed advocates are going
to say, oh, i know my dealer he is a nice
guy. Yeah right. I live in a pretty
small city and even here you can't set up
shop to sell weed without being paid a
visit by whatever gang has control of that
area. They may let the little guy sell it
and he may seem harmless but you have to
think about who is supplying him and
allowing him to sell. These aren't
friendly hippies living on a farm growing
harmless weed. They are criminals,
thieves, murderers, pushers and pimps and
they are the scum of the earth and when
you buy weed you are putting money in
their pocket. The fact that some of my
friends who are pro weed will overlook
this fact at the same time that they are
crying over the whales and protecting the
environment just goes to show that they
have a dependancy and are willing to
compromise their morals and values in
order to keep their supply intact.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 07-28-07 08:34am
What about people who grow MM for
themselves? I refute the notion that ALL
pot gwoers are selling other drugs. I
have several acquaintances who have "hobby
gardens" and they aren't part of any gang,
nor are they interested in any other types
of drugs. My own care provider only grows
for me. He has a regular job and just
does this as a favor to me.
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kaerbear
Most Diplomatic Poster
Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 1557 Location: ,
Posted: 07-28-07 10:21am
I'm all for it but you have to admit it's
the exception. What percentage of weed
smokers (i'm talking all of them, not
medicinal smokers) do you really think are
getting it from a trusted source growing
it in their back yard? Even the stuff
that is grown locally here is being grown
by philipino workers on local farms who
work for next to nothing and who are being
paid by Asian gangs. The rest of it is
being imported. That is why when the cops
make a big bust you see the weed right
there on the table with huge bags of coke
and hand guns and machine guns. Because
the same people who were selling the weed
were selling the coke and guns. I think
it would be wonderful if it could be
legalized and regulated so that people
knew what they were getting was safe and
that the money wasn't going to support
organised crime. I would love to know
that if a kid is going to experiment with
pot in high school, like I did, that it is
not going to be laced with crack or meth
or some other worse drug. Maybe if
certain people stopped abusing it long
enough for it to stop being associated
with crime it would be easier to make it
legal. That is why the cops don't want to
come down on people who are users in
Canada but they know at the same time who
is profiting from that use. I don't have
any problem with weed, although I do think
people can be addicted to it just like
anythng else (food, sex, gambling), I just
have a problem with criminals making so
much money off of it and I have a problem
with seeing close friends of mine go from
weed to worse drugs and then end up
flushing their lives down the toilet.
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Monket
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Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 10 Location: , New Zealand
Posted: 10-07-07 03:40am
Cons- Marijuana can cause mental illnesses
such as schitzophrenia in users who have
had a turbulent background. Also memory
loss.
A point you have made is that drinking
also causes memory loss plus many other
complications.
I completely agree, but is that a
sufficient excuse to smoke weed? It seems
to be the only excuse for stoners, and I'm
sick of hearing it.
We all look down on alcoholics, and we
agree that that is a problem, but getting
stoned often is looked at as fine.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 10-07-07 11:00am
I don't look at getting stoned as fine...
I think it's incredibly stupid.
However, both alcohol and marijuana can be
used in moderation especially since both
are non-addictive in the PHYSICAL sense.
Unlike cigarettes which lock you in via
nicotine, I believe both alcohol and
marijuana are only mentally addictive, and
as I've said in the past, everything is mentally
addictive, so it's not really sane to
outlaw something because it's mentally
addictive.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 10-08-07 06:34am
Monket
wrote:
Cons- Marijuana can cause
mental illnesses such as schitzophrenia in
users who have had a turbulent background.
Also memory loss.
A point you have made is that drinking
also causes memory loss plus many other
complications.
I completely agree, but is that a
sufficient excuse to smoke weed? It seems
to be the only excuse for stoners, and I'm
sick of hearing it.
We all look down on alcoholics, and we
agree that that is a problem, but getting
stoned often is looked at as
fine.
There is a vast difference between being
an occasional or medical user of MJ and
being an alcoholic. To compare the tow in
such a manner is negligible. Would you
look down on a person who had a couuple of
beers on the weekend? Not all peopel who
smoke MJ are "stoners". Furthermore,
there are no medical benefits from alcohol
sans the red wine/cholesterol theory and a
slight reduction in stress.
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sadie1
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 47 Location: ,
Legalize ....... Posted: 10-30-07 17:00pm
I think it is not legal because the
government would not be able to get their
money off of it. What is the difference in
all the other pain meds that are a
derivitive of some other sort of plant ...
It is a seed that was here long before the
government ever got involved. I believe
everything has a purpose and if you have
ever watched a cancer patient not eat or
throw-up from chemotherapy... it would be
easy to let them have it...
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homerx
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Posted: 01-28-08 19:18pm
Eiri
wrote:
I do believe the pros
outweigh the cons of marijuanna.
Almost anything done in moderation is
pretty much good. That's the primary
teaching of
buddhism!
Eiri, are you Buddhist? I lean towards
Buddhism myself. No wonder you are so well
rounded and grounded! Of cores I don't
know all there is to know about it but I
really lean that way spiritually speaking.
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homerx
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Re: Legalize ....... Posted: 01-28-08 19:19pm
sadie1
wrote:
I think it is not legal
because the government would not be able
to get their money off of it. What is the
difference in all the other pain meds that
are a derivitive of some other sort of
plant ... It is a seed that was here long
before the government ever got involved.
I believe everything has a purpose and if
you have ever watched a cancer patient not
eat or throw-up from chemotherapy... it
would be easy to let them have
it...
peace and
Love,HomerX