I recently started having problems. Mine
seem a little different as I have almost
no clicking or popping. My only stress is
from having tmj. I am a devoted singer, so
this sometimes makes it worse. Had braces
and a tonsillectomy as an adult. This
problem become noticable about a year
after having my tonsils removed. Symptoms:
mild crackiling noises coming from my neck
when I move my head back and forth, pain
on lower right side of jaw,and ear pain
with stuffiness in ears and pain in area
around the joint on the right side. I have
been to three dentist. 1st one took the
x-rays that go around the head that show
jaws and teeth. He was supposed to know
about TMJ or that's what his website said.
He said I need jaw surgery and referred me
to someone who is limited to treating TMJ
and does not take a surgical approach
(that doesn't make sense!) The guy I was
referred to, took forever and when he
finally came in he explained what Tmj was
and had me bite down and all that good
stuff. He said you have TMJ, and I'm
thinking "No!!! That cost me 180. The
xrays and splint would be about 2100. I
did not continue with him as this doctor
has been complained about by several
people. 3rd guy, Lvi trained did not
charge for the visit, he talked with me
about my symptoms, had me move my jaw
foward noticing a space between upper and
lower teeth. he said I needed full
reconstuction after a the splint
treatment. Cost about 40,000! He showed me
a pic of teeth not treated, was this a
scare tactic? 4th guy, he is making me a
nightguard for about 300. Hope it works.
Do any of these people know what they are
doing? Depressed and hopeless!
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catswold
Supporter
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Flint, Michigan
Posted: 06-15-07 08:16am
You have just shared with us the most
frustrating problem, next to the pain,
about TMJ - the medical specialists
themselves (in my opinion). Sometimes I
wish that all these "specialists" would
experience true TMJ for a few months to
understand the complexity and devastation
of the symptoms of TMJ.
Did none of them give you self-help
techniques? Personally I believe that we
can often help ourselves the best by
taking supplements like magnesium, etc.,
life-style changes, posture corrections,
watching what and how we eat, getting
better sleep at night, etc., not talking
so much & fast, using moist heat to
relax muscles, and ice to numb the pain
and/or reduce any swelling. Going to a
good TMJ trained physical therapist can
teach us how to do certain exercises and
get those muscles to relax with
ultrasound, massage, TENS, etc.
Yes, often we do need professional help if
there is a structural problem, bite issues
and/or trauma. My opinion is that the
specialist's first concern should be to
reduce pain as much as possible, and then
evaluate how to correct the problem, if
possible, and preferably without doing
anything too major like surgery.
A bite splint tends to be a good, safe
treatment option as it is usually
reversible. Clenching and/or grinding our
teeth while sleeping is a very common
problem. Our bodies usually do adjust but
we add stress, bad posture, trauma, a
dentist who kept our mouth open too wide
for too long, and a bad bite - we have
problems. A splint can take pressure off
of the joints and/or start to correct the
bite issues. Once that happens, often the
muscles will stop their spasms and pain
will reduce.
Of course there are always exceptions,
sadly. The disc might not return to a
good position in the joint, the body just
will not relax as needed, and/or there may
be a major structural issue. I still
believe it can be "fixed" or managed with
conservative methods, which might mean
adding medications, regular massage
therapy, psycho therapy, etc. Filing one
little tooth might resolve the problem
also amazingly, but here you have to be
careful. This is not reversible and
should be done after the pain is
controlled. Very little filing also
should be the goal. If a lot of filing is
needed, then braces or crowns, etc., might
be better.
I think that the 4th dentist you consulted
might be the better way to start. A bite
splint is a known helper. I also hope,
tho, that he mentioned other self-help
methods, pain medications or
physical/massage therapy. If not, ask
him. Is relieving your pain (or function
problem if that's your major issue) his
first step? Do all the research you
possibly can and visit Internet health
boards/forums/chat rooms/support sites for
contact with other TMJ sufferers and the
wonderful support they can give.
Sorry for the length of this and I didn't
even put everything in that I wanted, but
I am truly hoping and praying that
something I said will help you figure out
what to do. Don't let these "specialists"
frustrate you as that will just add stress
to you. You fight for the help you need.
Please take care and...
God bless you,
Carol
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Ess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posted: 06-15-07 16:20pm
EL,
Please try not to be depressed and
hopeless. Perhaps you will be one of the
lucky ones, with the right condition, the
right specialist, and the right treatment,
there are many, many people who get
better! Try to think positively. For one
reason, despression & anxiety is also
hard on your health, and you don't need
any more problems right now.
As hard as it seems, maybe take a short
break from the singing. You can keep
humming, to keep the larnyx in shape....
catswold, just wondering, because I cannot
find it in your posts - you seem to have
found the answer for yourself. Did you
have an MRI that showed displaced discs,
and if so were they reducing or non
reducing? Or was your problem more of a
muscular nature?
Ess
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effinlizzy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 2 Location: oklahoma
Posted: 06-15-07 16:22pm
I have done research, just not satisifed.
I just don't want to resort to taking
drugs, and spending$$$$? to find the cure.
I am very tired mentally and think most
doctors guess whats wrong before taking
any xrays. I found a guy in michigan but I
live in Oklahoma. He uses many different
ways to find out whats wrong and when he
does Guarentee 95% pain relief or money
back! He also works with other doctors to
help with the healing if needed. I am
almost tempted to take a flight out there.
, . Why can't I find someone like that
here. By the way I am a singer and still
have shows coming up. I don't know how
I'll make it. This is most devastating to
my career. I just wanna be pain free and
sing:( It even hurts to cry.....
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Tmddyan
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Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4439 Location: post falls, id usa
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Hi Posted: 06-17-07 17:12pm
I can help you find a doctor in your
area---if you want my help let me know.
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catswold
Supporter
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Flint, Michigan
Posted: 06-20-07 09:09am
Hi Ess,
Sorry for my delay to your question. Yes,
I have had MRI's and other images. I
don't have a disc on one side and the
other is non-reducing. I have severe
degenerative changes in both joints. I
just found out that last statement
yesterday, but I really already knew
before they did the CT scan (scan was for
a tinnitus problem). All that popping
over too many years, sadly. But I can't
complain - God has truly blessed me with
the right combination of self-help and
other treatments, and medications. I can
always "feel" my jaw. There's always a
pressure there, like someone putting a
finger on my joints and a big rubber band
partially around my head, but I rarely
have pain flare-ups. I have to do my
part, tho, by watching my stress level and
sitting correctly in front of the
computer. It's getting easier.