No, spanking is not an acceptable form of discipline
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Under some conditions, spanking is appropriate
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Spanking Posted: 06-22-07 06:58am
Is spanking an appropriate form of
discipline for a child?
Mommy35
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Posted: 06-22-07 09:46am
This is a hard one. Remember this debates
are based on opinions.
I do think spanking is ok sometimes.
Open handed on the butt with clothes on.
No sticks, no paddles, no belts, nothing
but an open hand!!!!!
Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should never spank a child if you are
upset. This, in my opinion is how child
abuse starts.
A child should know up front what will get
them a spanking, and it should be saved
for the big offenses.
If my child was told .Never .Never .Never
go in the road, and if you do .I'm going
to spank you. They go in the road, .I'm
going to spank them.
I like to use natural consequences as much
as possible.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 06-22-07 09:55am
I will never ever spank my kids because if
I am angry enough to do so, then I
certainly should not do it. I would not
do it after the fact because that's just
weird to me. Also, I believe that spanking
teaches kids that bigger peolpe win, and I
would be afraid that I was helping my
child learn to bully smaller peole.
That's just my 2 cents. Interestingly, I
have never felt like I had to spank my
child.
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Willa Weintraub
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Posted: 06-22-07 10:14am
from my experience as a child and watching
my aunt raise her children without hitting
and also seeing my sister tap dalton on
his hand so he would not pick something
up. . .I'd have to say no.I was hit when I
was a kid(granted that was the way things
were back then) it made me want to rebell
more,I even had the guts to hit my father
back.All it does is teach kids violence.My
sister taps dalton on his hand so now he
thinks its ok to hit. he smacked me in my
face once and I disciplined him without
hitting him.my aunt raised her children
without hitting them and they are for the
most part very respectful. I think hitting
sometimes,as bad as this sounds,is a way
for parents to let their anger out(my
opinion).
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Mommy35
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Posted: 06-22-07 10:25am
.I could probably count on one hand the
number of times .I had to spank my
daughter, and it was for something serious
or doing something so dangerous that death
could have been the natural consequence
for doing it (playing in the road, gravel
pits, near the pond, etc). I was never
angry when .I spanked. I did a lot of
counts to 10, 20, 250.
It was my just daughter and .I for a long
time and .I remember asking her many times
what she thought would be an appropriate
consequence for ___ or ___. She was a lot
harder on herself and gave harsher
consequences than .I ever would have. I
learned early on to not give a punishment
when .I was upset.
She knew up front what would get her a
spank and she didn't do it...or didn't get
caught.
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sWeEtPeEwEe
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Posted: 06-22-07 10:26am
My opinion is that you should try to
discipline them any other way possible
first and then if that doesn't work then a
spanking isn't bad at all. I'm not saying
that you should start slapping your child
in the face or anything like that, but a
light slap on the butt or a small slap on
the hand is definitely reasonable.
Although you should explain to the child
why they got slapped because if they are
unaware then they won't learn from it, but
just tell them they can't do whatever it
was that they were doing. I know when my
son had just turned two he went through a
fase that he would slap people so to teach
him that it was wrong i slapped him in the
hand everytime that he slapped me and he
would cry, so i would tell him that it
isn't nice to hit and it doesn't feel nice
just like it didn't feel nice for him to
get slapped in the hand; and now he is a
very nice boy that yes does sometimes have
his fits but not everyday like osme
children. Personally I find that if you
ignore the child it works better than
spanking them, because when my son is
taking a fit i ignore him and he
eventually gets embarassed and comes
running to me saying sorry and hugging me.
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Posted: 06-22-07 10:38am
Mommy35
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If my child was told .Never
.Never .Never go in the road, and if you
do .I'm going to spank you. They go in
the road, .I'm going to spank them.
The only time my mother ever spanked me, I
had just run in the middle of the road. I
was 3 or 4. Luckily it was a neighbor
driving by and was watching out, or I
would have been hit. I don't remember
running in the road or almost being hit.
But, I do remember my mom spanking me and
then crying her eyes out. I look probably
4 times before I cross the road to this
day.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 06-22-07 11:44am
i got hit quite a bit when i was a kid and
so did my partner. he actually was beaten
pretty bad by his father. i just don't
see us using spanking in raising our
child. i think it is most often done out
of anger and it teaches the child anger
and resentment. i'm sure it works for a
lot of people, it worked for me because i
was afraid to do certain things because i
didn't want to get spanked. i'm hoping to
teach my child right from wrong without
having them be afraid of me hurting them.
even if it's a lot more work to discipline
without physical punishment, i'll do it to
save them the humiliation and shame it
made me and my partner feel when we were
children. discipline comes from the word
disciple, which means to follow in
someones footsteps and i firmly believe
that modeling good behaviour is the most
important part of discipline.
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HcoBrunette06
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Posted: 06-22-07 12:25pm
okay, here's an example. "what would you
do"
we were in the car (me, my cousin driving
(the mom), and my 4 cousins, 3 of them
being triplets.) we went through taco
bell, and the triplets also had cereal to
snack on on the way to another town to
drop me off. karli got done eating her
taco and got mad because she wanted
another one and that she didn't want her
cereal, so she started throwing it, then
she was just whining and fake crying for
about 10 minutes, and beth (the mom) told
us to just ignore her (
) so we did, and then she started
screaming at the top of her lungs over and
over again. My cousin told her "Karli,
stop now or i'm going to pull this van
over and spank you" (something i heard a
lot as a kid )
and she didn't stop, she started throwing
her cereal more, and screaming louder, and
by this time i was seriously shaking
because i was so worked up from it.
eventually she climbed out of her car seat
and wouldn't get back in and she was still
screaming and throwing her cereal around,
so beth pulled the van over and got her
out layed her down on the seat and spanked
her.
... and i watched
i know that sounds harsh to say that i
washed so happily, but mmmyyy gooooddd.
she didn't do it hard or anything, but
after the fact she picked karli back up to
put her back in her car seat, and karli
scratched the hell out of her neck and was
kicking and screaming. (keep in mind that
this girl is almost 5!!!!!!!)
i'd never seen her act this way in my
life. do you think she deserved a
spanking? (you might not if you're just
reading it, but i can promise you she did
deserve it)
my opinion is with cindy, only in major
situations. i'm not going to use spanking
as a regular form of punishment, but if
something like that happens, it'll take
everything i have not to spank their butt.
this wasn't just a normal fit lol ok long
sorry.
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vanessalouanne
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Posted: 06-22-07 14:05pm
i think that as long as your not mad while
doing it and explain why you are doing it
to your child (the reason your getting a
spanking is...) and you dont use too much
force then it is an acceptable form of
discipline. im back to my whole guideline
as a parent which is consequences for your
actions. now im not going to spank my
child because she spilled her juice or was
crabby when its nap time but i will do it
to leave a long lasting impression ( like
cindy said with the road)
i believe that we learn best using all of
our 5 senses (touch, sight ect) so why is
it any different with discipline?
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kaerbear
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Posted: 06-22-07 14:15pm
i understand that it works for some people
and that's fine, i'm not trying to force
my opinion on anyone. i just want to say
that i am going to do everything in my
power to parent without it. it's like, if
someone ticks you off in life as an adult,
you don't go up to them and hit them,
neither should our justice system be doing
that to us when we break the law or
whatever. so i don't see why i would
teach my child that that is an appropriate
reaction to wrong behavoir. i would never
expect anyone else to hit my child so i
don't want to be the one person in the
world that hits them. i want to be the
person they can trust not to hurt them. i
guess it depends on what you mean by
hitting too. i got spanked and slapped on
the back of the head and even one time
across the face where it made my nose
bleed, although it wasn't often. all i
remember now was the hurt and shame it
caused, not that i learned anything
valuable from it.
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HcoBrunette06
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Posted: 06-22-07 14:32pm
kaerbear
wrote:
i understand that it works
for some people and that's fine, i'm not
trying to force my opinion on anyone. i
just want to say that i am going to do
everything in my power to parent without
it. it's like, if someone ticks you off
in life as an adult, you don't go up to
them and hit them, neither should our
justice system be doing that to us when we
break the law or whatever. so i don't see
why i would teach my child that that is an
appropriate reaction to wrong behavoir. i
would never expect anyone else to hit my
child so i don't want to be the one person
in the world that hits them. i want to be
the person they can trust not to hurt
them. i guess it depends on what you mean
by hitting too. i got spanked and slapped
on the back of the head and even one time
across the face where it made my nose
bleed, although it wasn't often. all i
remember now was the hurt and shame it
caused, not that i learned anything
valuable from it.
i think that's a really great way to put
it "i don't want to be the one person in
the world that hits them, i want to be the
person they can trust not to hurt them"
i think that's a great way of looking at
it and im sorry you had to go through that
as a kid, i was going through something
similar not too long ago so i can see
where you're coming from. i hope one day i
don't have to use spanking or scaring
either.
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vanessalouanne
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Posted: 06-22-07 14:43pm
i think there are proper ways of spanking
without abuse or neglect and there are
ways of it becoming abusive. i think its
a fine line. I want my child to know that
her best interest is always at my heart,
which sometimes i think requires a form of
discipline as dramatic as spanking.
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Mommy35
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Posted: 06-22-07 14:47pm
vanessalouanne
wrote:
i think there are proper
ways of spanking without abuse or neglect
and there are ways of it becoming abusive.
i think its a fine line. I want my child
to know that her best interest is always
at my heart, which sometimes i think
requires a form of discipline as dramatic
as spanking.
Agreed 100%!!
What happened to you .Kaer, is
unacceptable!! I also agree, and .I'm
sorry you went through that. That isn't
spanking because what a child did was very
unsafe, that is plain and simple...abuse.
It's an adults attempt to make you feel
small and control you and that is
wrong!!!!
Grrrr
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Tylanas
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Posted: 06-22-07 17:15pm
I agree that under special circumstances,
spanking is acceptable.
I was spanked... once or twice as a child,
and I honestly believe I deserved it. I
don't remember what I did, but boy, was it
bad, and I knew spanking was the
punishment! I did it anyway... and my
parents followed through on their threat.
I think that is the key. If you say
you're gonna do it, then the very first
time the child warrants a spanking, do it.
Then the child knows you're serious about
it, and they'll take all other "lesser"
punishments way more seriously too.
They'll behave because they know that if
they don't, the parent isn't going to wuss
out: they will deliver the punishment,
whether it's sitting in the corner or
having the car pulled over, etc.
Also, you need a hefty dose of "this is
why I am punishing you". Totally. A child
who understands is a child who will learn
from their mistakes.
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Posted: 06-22-07 18:46pm
I was spanked and I don't think that it
screwed me up or made me not love my
parents.
There are some things about spanking
though that concern me.
#1 If the parents don't have control of
their emotions whenever they spank that
could be very, very bad. Taking a few
minutes to try and settle down first would
help immensely.
#2 If the parents don't reassure them of
their love for the child. I think that
many parents can make it worse if they
don't show their child that they love them
after they spank them.
#3 If the parents only use spanking as a
threat. It doesn't do any good if you
don't spank them after the first time that
they commit the offense. Telling Susy
three times to stop and then spanking her
shows her that she can get away with doing
something bad for a little while.
#4 If the parents don't institue
preemptive measures. I think that from an
early age parents should teach their child
why they shouldn't do bad things. Telling
your child they can't do something
"because I said so" doesn't help train a
child at all.
Children should be trained before being
disciplined. Spanking should be done
promptly and consitantly. Otherwise it is
senseless.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 06-22-07 19:56pm
Oh totally. You've got to explain the
rules. That was very important for me as a
child.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 06-22-07 21:53pm
i still love my parents too. i always
have. i think kids almost always love
their parents no matter what. that's why
it can be so hard for them to understand
why they are being hit and it can make it
worse than being hit by someone you don't
have those profound feelings for. i know
there probably is a way to do it that will
work for both parent and child but i think
i can do it without resorting to that.
that's my goal anyway.
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Posted: 06-22-07 23:36pm
I feel very, very strongly that spanking
is never the right decision.
If you are in a situation that you feel a
spanking is in order, than you are the one
who goofed up to get to that situation,
and should spank yourself.
This is coming from someone who is not a
parent, though, so I'm sure I'll get
bashed for it. (No pun intended.) However,
it is coming from someone who was beat and
abused as a child with many different
devices for minor offenses and I'm here to
tell you, although this was extreme, there
is nothing like being utterly defenseless
in the face of someone who is supposed to
love you unconditionally while they are
"spanking" you for something.
Spanking, otherwise known as "hitting",
models for your child that they are small
and defensless and can be struck if they
goof up.
Humans are supposed to be intellectuals;
hang up the paddles and straps and think
your way out of it.
Again, I don't have kids, but I'm
absolutely certain that I would never,
ever strike my child for any reason.
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mrsbuzski
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to Spank Or Not to Spank! Posted: 06-23-07 00:01am
I say, Yes!
Never ever do it in anger, or at your wits
end!
Give them ample warning, usually twice.
And then, what I call, "The wake up
call".
A spank!
"I warned you"!
Not a spanking! Just one slap on the rear
or upside the back of their head or
shoulder.
Depending on the age. It may have to be
on the face if your dealing with an
indignant 14 year old instead of a 4 year
old.
BUT, be very, very cautious where you hit!
Shoulder and butt is good, upside the
head is getting to close to the ears.
But, generally by then your hand or
knuckles is the one getting hurt on the
wall becauase they know they have messed
up and they're fast at escape.
I wish, "Wait until your Dad gets home",
worked. But, that's not fair either. On
Dad that is!
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