nightangel73
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Posted: 07-03-07 06:06am
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| Birch
wrote: | I just recently posted an
article in the abortion debate forum about
women who find out they are going to have
a .down's sydrome child aborting with
quite a bit of frequency. So that is one
thing to take into account when you hear
only about healthy babies born to older
women.
And incidentally, I have taken a college
level genetics course. Which means that
I'm just incredibly' smart, eh? 
Can you help me understand what you meant
when you said, "statistics are not facts",
nightangel? Thank
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birch my human genetics professor whose
husband is the highest geneticist in the
country (given i studied in the univ that
equals harvard in puerto rico) she had an
authistic child and got pregnant again at
37. At the time they told her baby chance
for down for ds was 70% and she got
alarmed in the begining. Then she dig
further to find out in science to say 70%
is not significant. She was very pro-life
so even with ds she wouldn't abort
regarles of already having an authistic
child. So she continued with the
pregnancy not scared anymore and well the
baby was born normal.
jude i don't know how old you are but when
you get to 35 you won't think that age is
old. You don't have any wrinkles at that
age you know that? Why would i decide now
to not have children because i'm 35 when
the chances of ds are low? People have to
be careful with ds tests are it's lot of
false positives.
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Birch
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Posted: 07-03-07 07:55am
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | Birch
wrote: | I just recently posted an
article in the abortion debate forum about
women who find out they are going to have
a .down's sydrome child aborting with
quite a bit of frequency. So that is one
thing to take into account when you hear
only about healthy babies born to older
women.
And incidentally, I have taken a college
level genetics course. Which means that
I'm just incredibly' smart, eh?
Can you help me understand what you meant
when you said, "statistics are not facts",
nightangel? Thank
you! |
birch my human genetics professor whose
husband is the highest geneticist in the
country (given i studied in the univ that
equals harvard in puerto rico) she had an
authistic child and got pregnant again at
37. At the time they told her baby chance
for down for ds was 70% and she got
alarmed in the begining. Then she dig
further to find out in science to say 70%
is not significant. She was very pro-life
so even with ds she wouldn't abort
regarles of already having an authistic
child. So she continued with the
pregnancy not scared anymore and well the
baby was born normal.
jude i don't know how old you are but when
you get to 35 you won't think that age is
old. You don't have any wrinkles at that
age you know that? Why would i decide now
to not have children because i'm 35 when
the chances of ds are low? People have to
be careful with ds tests are it's lot of
false
positives. |
Oh, I understand now. 70% is not,
"statistic-speak" significant. I gotcha.
Thanks!
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Mommy35
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Posted: 07-03-07 12:38pm
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I certainly don't feel or act 35, and my
ob said she would have guessed .I was much
much younger.
I am more active than most 25 year olds .I
know.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 07-03-07 15:05pm
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70% isn't significant!? I'm sorry, but if
I was told there was a 70% chance I'd
die
during an activity, I'd be seriously
scared crapless!
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Jude-Love
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Posted: 07-03-07 15:46pm
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | Jude I don't know how old
you are but when you get to 35 you won't
think that age is old. You don't have any
wrinkles at that age you know that? Why
would I decide now to not have children
because i'm 35 when the chances of ds are
low? People have to be careful with ds
tests are it's lot of false
positives. |
I'm 24. I certainly don't think 35 is
old. When I said a woman's eggs are old,
I meant just that-their eggs. You start
making eggs the moment you're conceived (I
think, that or the moment you're born).
I don't know why *you* would choose to not
have children because you're 35, I just
know why I would.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 07-03-07 17:08pm
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You definitely can't produce eggs from the
moment of conception. You're still really
an egg yourself.
I believe egg production does happen in
the womb, and the mature baby by the time
of birth has all the eggs she'll ever
have.
Egg maturation doesn't start until puberty
of course.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 07-03-07 17:19pm
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I believe and anybody correct me if i'm
wrong is that you are born with all the
eggs. What develops as you grow older are
the hormones. The eggs are in the ovaries
and they come out due to hormones. When
you reach menopause your hormones declines
therefore eggs can't mature anymore.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 07-03-07 17:43pm
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| Mommy35
wrote: | I certainly don't feel or
act 35, and my ob said she would have
guessed .I was much much younger.
I am more active than most 25 year olds .I
know. |
mommy what i have seen happening is that
by 35 most women have alredy have children
and a great number of them don't loose the
baby weight gain. Then more overweight the
older you will look. I am 34 and I went to
try my wedding dress, there were many
young gals there and the thruth is in the
wedding dress I looked better than all of
them. They would wished to look like me. I
would say that in my entire company of
500+ folks I am of the top 3 with the best
looking body and I'm not the youngest. I
believe this is why people say I look in
my 20's. It's not me is that I have stayed
in shape vs most women at 35 are not in
shape. I have got to say that I have
enjoyed having a slim belly with not a
single stretch mark for so many years. I
will miss that when I have babies! My
fiance who is 36 now has a very young
face. I believe what helps him the most is
that his head is full of hair still and
well he is not fat neither. You see this
boys getting bald at 26 and oh they look
like in their mid 30's and it's due to
hairloss.
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Birch
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Posted: 07-03-07 20:19pm
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Eiri, 70% is not significant when you are
discussing statistics specifically.
Yes, you are born w/ all the eggs you get.
I have seen Nightangle's picture and even
though she's boastful, she is hot.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 07-03-07 21:59pm
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*blink* talk about tooting your own horn.
Modest much? 
.I'm hoping to finish my baby-making by
the time .I'm 30. Hopefully when my
children are living on their own .I'll
still have a large number of years ahead.
As for other women, they can give birth
whenever they feel is right for them. I'm
not really bothered.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 07-03-07 22:05pm
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some of us don't find mr. right until we
are a little older. i'm so glad i waited
around for my guy. i want to have more
than one but i'm hoping to be done by the
time i'm 35 or so. more than just the
genetic reasons, also because i want to be
around to see my grandkids and rich isn't
getting any younger either.
i wish i could say i'm the best looking
person i know lol. that would be nice i
guess. but i'll just have to settle for
being smart and charming. lol. 
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Tylanas
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Posted: 07-04-07 01:21am
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | I believe and anybody
correct me if i'm wrong is that you are
born with all the eggs. What develops as
you grow older are the hormones. The eggs
are in the ovaries and they come out due
to hormones. When you reach menopause your
hormones declines therefore eggs can't
mature
anymore. |
That's what I said, lol.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 07-04-07 06:04am
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i think the older you get, the more chance
there is of gene mutations like, deletion
or duplication or non-disjunction (which
can lead to down's syndrome). so even
though all of those eggs are present when
you are a baby, the copying of them is
what is more likely to go screwy as you
get older. i would think it is the same
problem with the creation of new sperm in
an older man, it's mistakes in the copying
of the gene code that can affect the baby.
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bernibaby86
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Posted: 07-05-07 20:57pm
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Age doesnt matter when you're tryin to
conceive. when i got pregnant with my
daughter i was tryin to conceive. i am a
20 year old mother will be 21 this
month...lol. I'm still in college. i got
very lucky on my first pregnancy b/c my
college advisor and course instructors
helped me out and i was able to finish my
spring semester from home. So now I look
forward to finishing my last year at this
college then I get transferred to another
college for my nursing clinicals
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 07-06-07 09:37am
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | Mommy35
wrote: | I certainly don't feel or
act 35, and my ob said she would have
guessed .I was much much younger.
I am more active than most 25 year olds .I
know. |
mommy what i have seen happening is that
by 35 most women have alredy have children
and a great number of them don't loose the
baby weight gain. Then more overweight the
older you will look. I am 34 and I went to
try my wedding dress, there were many
young gals there and the thruth is in the
wedding dress I looked better than all of
them. They would wished to look like me. I
would say that in my entire company of
500+ folks I am of the top 3 with the best
looking body and I'm not the youngest. I
believe this is why people say I look in
my 20's. It's not me is that I have stayed
in shape vs most women at 35 are not in
shape. I have got to say that I have
enjoyed having a slim belly with not a
single stretch mark for so many years. I
will miss that when I have babies! My
fiance who is 36 now has a very young
face. I believe what helps him the most is
that his head is full of hair still and
well he is not fat neither. You see this
boys getting bald at 26 and oh they look
like in their mid 30's and it's due to
hairloss. |
What do good looks have to do with
anything?
I have had two children and I have no
stretch marks that anybody will ever see
without being intimately close. I lost
all my baby weight. I am almost 35. To
say that "most women at 35 are not in
shape" seems to be a simplified statement,
and it is one I take offense to on behalf
of the "women over 35". eventually we all
get old wrinkled and saggy. Thankfully I
will have my intelligence to fall back on
when I am old and "ugly".
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Tylanas
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Posted: 07-06-07 15:52pm
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I feel more like a "woman" every year I
get older. Women are sexy, confident and
mature. Young Ladies... not so much I'm a girl right
now, a lady... But I'm becoming a woman. A
woman to me is about 25-40 years old. Not
saying there aren't some sexy women over
40. But in my mind, those are the sexiest
years.
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HcoBrunette06
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Posted: 07-06-07 19:59pm
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| nightangel73
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mommy what i have seen happening is that
by 35 most women have alredy have children
and a great number of them don't loose the
baby weight gain. Then more overweight the
older you will look. I am 34 and I went to
try my wedding dress, there were many
young gals there and the thruth is in the
wedding dress I looked better than all of
them. They would wished to look like me. I
would say that in my entire company of
500+ folks I am of the top 3 with the best
looking body and I'm not the youngest. I
believe this is why people say I look in
my 20's. It's not me is that I have stayed
in shape vs most women at 35 are not in
shape. I have got to say that I have
enjoyed having a slim belly with not a
single stretch mark for so many years. I
will miss that when I have babies! My
fiance who is 36 now has a very young
face. I believe what helps him the most is
that his head is full of hair still and
well he is not fat neither. You see this
boys getting bald at 26 and oh they look
like in their mid 30's and it's due to
hairloss. |
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musikmaker
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Posted: 07-08-07 23:16pm
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I am 21 and pregnant with my first. I am
hoping to be done with having kids by the
time that I am 30 for many reasons. I have
heard that it is harder to recover after
you are 35 and that c-section rates go up
after then too. I don't feel like looking
it up but if someone else wants too you
can go ahead 
I am not going to diss people who get
pregnant after that, my mom had my sister
when she was 38, I am just going to say to
be prepared for allot of heartache. Your
hormone levels start to change and it gets
harder and harder every year to keep a
pregnancy and not have a miscarriage. The
body just isn't producing enough
progesterone anymore to support a
pregnancy.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 07-09-07 23:03pm
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| musikmaker
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I am not going to diss people who get
pregnant after that, my mom had my sister
when she was 38, I am just going to say to
be prepared for allot of heartache. Your
hormone levels start to change and it gets
harder and harder every year to keep a
pregnancy and not have a miscarriage. The
body just isn't producing enough
progesterone anymore to support a
pregnancy. |
You have to be prepare for heartache even
if you are pregnant young. Young is not
equal to have a pregnancy with no
heartache.
I don't mind the heartache and the
miscarriages here, that's part of life and
the thrill of becoming a mom .
Now ladies, i want to say it's better to
have babies at younger ages no dispute
about that. Your hormones levels are
better and so on.. I personally didn't had
the choice of having the babies when I was
younger so I have to have them when I'm
older. Women who want to have cihldren at
35+ have the same dreams of becoming a mom
and they did wanted to have them younger
but it wasn't possible. Some want to study
long careers, others want to be more
stable financially others just don't find
mr. right when they are younger. So ladies
just be excited for the ladies who want to
be moms after 35 and just wish them luck
that everything goes okay.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 07-09-07 23:09pm
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huh? you get a thrill from having a
miscarriage? did i read that wrong?
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