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oxfragilerosexo

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Bed Times
Posted: 07-03-07 18:37pm

Do you think that a 10 year old should be able to stay up as late as he wants.. Eat what he wants.. sleep in the living room and watch what he wants? the only reason I am asking is because my boyfriends mom let's his little brother eat drink and do what he wants.. he sits inside all day playing video games stays up later than all of us.. What is someone breaks in and he is awake and because of that something happens to him? We (Mike and I ) Tell him to go to bed around 10 or 11 it is summer so we don't mind that late.. He stays up till two and three in the morning then sleeps ALLLLL day... I mean he is also overweight and supposed to be on a diet.. but we eat ALOT of fried foods.. I mean I have gained .T.E.N pounds since I moved in at the end of march.
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kaerbear

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Posted: 07-03-07 20:02pm

kids need routine. it's good for them. it doesn't have to be overly strict but they should have a set bedtime so that they sleep well. i really hate video games and tv!! i think they should be severely limited, especially if the child has a weight problem. i don't think you are doing a kid any favours by not giving them any limits or boundaries. my mom teaches in an inner city school in a rough neighbourhood. a lot of the kids there are allowed to run wild because no one cares to watch them. when they come into her class she makes it clear to them that whatever their lives are like at home, that on her time they will be able to act like children and have rules and boundaries. they love it. they thrive on it. some of them don't want to go home at the end of the day. i don't think kids lives have to be regimented all the time but they do need some kind of stablity and consistency and predictability in their lives.
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oxfragilerosexo

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Posted: 07-03-07 20:57pm

I try my best.. But when it is a new situation.. you can not just come in to someone else's home and boss them around. I watch him. I make him get up and do stuff. I did not let him play video games and be on the computer and stuff. I do not have a car.. so we do not go to the park. I am however waiting on a few things to go together so that I can start teaching him how to swim. When his mother is home at night it is not like I can go in there and say Hey.. Go to bed or else... I do however go in there and make him roll over and face the back of the couch.. but he will pretend to be asleep for hours if he had to he has done it so there is no point in that. I would really appreciate it if you would not say that I am not helping the situation.. I am cleaning up after three adults and a 10 year old that will not clean up after himself 2 jack russells if you have one you know how they are... in the trash up all night.. pacing barking at all hours of the night.. running away every chance they get... not to mention that the male has a skin condition that I have no clue what is wrong with him.. he has hot spots and loses his hair I think due to fleas. Today I made him. It is not like I have time cleaning up after everyone to do things with him. I am expected to do everything.. So please the next time that you want to make assumptions that I am not trying please.. don't I am I just have to get this pigpen of a house to living standards before I can work on the other problems...
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Magical Logic

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Posted: 07-03-07 21:49pm

sorry not being mean but this is not your child there for not your problem . you can only try so hard to help the child but if his mother is not gonna help him i dont think he is gonna listen to you.
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kaerbear

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Posted: 07-03-07 21:50pm

whoa. i wasn't even talking about you. i was talking in general only. sorry if i came off that way but i didnt mean that at all. you asked for opinions so i gave mine. i don't remember saying anything about you or your family at all. Confused
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Posted: 07-03-07 21:50pm

sounds like my little brother
trust me if hes used to it by ten... theres no changeing it now
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Posted: 07-04-07 01:47am

Routine is very important. My brother and I had a bedtime all the way through highschool, though it was 9 pm by that time.
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oxfragilerosexo

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Posted: 07-04-07 07:08am

kaerbear wrote:
whoa. i wasn't even talking about you. i was talking in general only. sorry if i came off that way but i didnt mean that at all. you asked for opinions so i gave mine. i don't remember saying anything about you or your family at all. Confused


sorry I did probably take it the wrong way. I am just so used to everytime I say anything someone is always telling me I am wrong. i thought you meant something by...

kaerbear wrote:
i don't think you are doing a kid any favours by not giving them any limits or boundaries.
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Anne123

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Posted: 07-04-07 08:44am

I'm sure she didn't mean it that way, and that kaerbear was using the universal "you" - as in, people in general.

The home environment that you (specifically you, the op) are in doesn't sound like a healthy environment for anyone. It also sounds like you are taking too much responsibility for it on yourself. If you can afford it, get an apartment with your boyfriend as soon as possible - take those poor undiciplined dogs with you and don't look back. The 10 yr old is the responsibility of his mother.
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oxfragilerosexo

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Posted: 07-04-07 09:34am

Anne123 wrote:
I'm sure she didn't mean it that way, and that kaerbear was using the universal "you" - as in, people in general.

The home environment that you (specifically you, the op) are in doesn't sound like a healthy environment for anyone. It also sounds like you are taking too much responsibility for it on yourself. If you can afford it, get an apartment with your boyfriend as soon as possible - take those poor undiciplined dogs with you and don't look back. The 10 yr old is the responsibility of his mother.


I know that.. but there is not a father.. and The mother has to work to be able to feed them Mike and I are in between jobs.. Me cause I was asked to stay home with The 10 yo all day...Mike be cause his boss sold the company out from under him and the one other guy that worked for him also... He has a job but it is one day a week till he can find something else. I am fixing to go back to school at night. I am going to be so worn out. I wish there was something else I could do. There just is not any other options. School is out.. and there is not any daycares that she can afford or trust... not meaning anything by this cause I am not racist of any sort but there is not enough racial equalness at his daycare... He is the only caucasion there. He feels left out and stuff. So that is not a choice either. So yet again my life is on hold for someone else's... Why do i have to be so kind and let people walk all over me... I mean.. I move in and all I ask for is a place to sleep.. not even in a bed if not necessary... and food and 25 dollars a week and she leaves here at 6:30 in the morning and gets home at 2:30 in the afternoon. I stay home all week and all weekend. I do nothing but sit around or clean. I am so tired of this. I really wish that I could hire someone to come clean my house just once.. so that I was able to possibly maintain it.. I mean I know that probably would not happen.. because well.. it would just get messy all over again. What I need is a weekend when the whole house is empty just me and the dogs.. or even just a day.. You know what I think i am going to wake him up.. and make him go for a bike ride so that I can get somethings done.. I might even lock the dogs in his mom's room screw it if they pee.. they would do it anyway... nasty the way people are these days....I mean there are roaches and I have tried and tried and tried to get rid of them.. it is not like it is that dirty.. like it is not cluttered... no food laying out except dog food. but we still have roaches. I have been keeping the dishes so that that eliminates food and stuff .. This house was worse before me.. and when I leave oh God help the one dog i feel sorry for her .. my dog and cat will go with me... Sorry this is more of a rant.. The 10 yo was up till like 3 this morning.. Mike his brother is no better he was up until like 5 or 6 knowing at 7:30 he had to get up for work steadily trying tot alk me in to things that I was just to tired for... I mean what kind of lifestyle is that for a child.. when his brother and mother are no better. I have seen this child have dog poo in his room right beside him and he would sit there and play his video game like it wasnt even there.. I just really don't know what to do with this family. I don't know if I should leave or stay.. risk my health...
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Azure777

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Posted: 07-04-07 13:06pm

well this is how i was raised and i think it was a pretty good way of doing it.

10 y/o: 9PM during school year, 10:30PM during summer.
11 y/o: Same as above.
12-13 y/o: 11PM on the weekends and 10PM during the week.
14 y/o +: i took my curfew and bed time into my own hands as long as i made it to school the next day

and no matter what i was up by 8AM no matter the age. that is why i was allowed up so late, it was my parents way of making me responsible for my own actions during the day.

Food wise:
before my parents split up i was on a very healthy diet and was very physically fit, but after my dad got custody of me i went down the flusher with fast food and junk. i became severely overweight within the past couple of years and now that i'm pregnant and have the will to lose weight i just can't. i plan on being on the same diet as my mom after .Lukas is born and losing the 110 lbs that i'm over weight.

hope i've helped
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oxfragilerosexo

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Posted: 07-04-07 13:36pm

I tried so hard to wake him. Like four times. He just ignored me or would answer me and say one minute.. when i was like uh no he just went back to sleep.. I should have said no games today.. he did not play any anyway... so.... but still it is ridiculous.
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Azure777

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Posted: 07-04-07 19:48pm

next time he doesn't want to get up threaten to trow a pot of cold water on him, if he still doesn't get up remind him that he'll have to sleep in that wet bed that night... if he still doesn't get up, actually do it! it worked with me every time
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Posted: 07-04-07 19:50pm

Azure777 wrote:
next time he doesn't want to get up threaten to trow a pot of cold water on him, if he still doesn't get up remind him that he'll have to sleep in that wet bed that night... if he still doesn't get up, actually do it! it worked with me every time



you know what your talkin about

i agree though
he has to know that you mean buissness!
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Azure777

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Posted: 07-04-07 20:08pm

if it wasn't for that particular threat when i was in highschool i wouldn't have ever gotten up. i would stay up till 2AM on the computer and still get up for school no matter what... but of course i took a nap when i got home lol... but it worked... worked so well that i only missed school on real sick days. my parents knew that if i didn't care about it that i was .r.e.a.l.l.y sick
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Posted: 07-05-07 09:56am

Have you thought of contacting the health department? If it is truly the welfare of this child you are concerned about, you may consider it. When you and your bf move out of that house, your efforts, however valiant, will probably not be long-lasting. It does not sound like a healthy environment for a child. The mother sounds like she needs some education.

My fear is that by taking all of this on yourself, you are going to go nuts fighting an uphill battle against habits which have been a long time in the making, and I think it will cause you much frustration and stress. So in additioin to all the mess and irritation, you will have your own issues to deal with.

This sounds like an awful situation. Sorry you are having to deal with it. And that poor kid!
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