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Posted: 07-11-07 09:44am

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I can't believe it either. Do a google image search for 7 week fetus and it's very suspicious just how much variation appears.

Here's one that comes from a credible, medical source that is cited directly on the image.

Don't trust images that you don't know where they came from.

This very clearly shows the fetus/potential future human being at various stages. At 7 weeks (49 days) it still looks very weird/alien and still has remnants of a tail.

FYI blondie: Yes it is human, yes it has the potential to become a human .B.E.I.N.G, and at some stages looks vaguely like the baby it could grow into, but I have no problem aborting it if I don't want to be pregnant and I have no problem with any other woman doing it.

Call it a baby, call it killing a living thing, call it whatever you want. Argue semantics until you're blue in the face. I know what it is and I'm fine with it.

http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/wwwh uman/Stages/Images/Cst800.jpg


And that's fine you are ok with killing it.. Just like I'm not!
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Re: Any Doctor/nurse That Can Rip a Foetus Apart Is Sick
Posted: 07-11-07 10:15am

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I know no matter what I say or do will change anyones ideas if they are pro-abortion or Pro choice. Just like they will not change mine. I am just speaking my thoughts just like they are.. But I will continue to say what I feel is right or wrong. That is my choice! Just like it is their choice to speak too. In my eyes it is wrong. Just like in their eyes it isn't. what makes it ok for one person thoughts to be heard and not anothers? Nothing! I don't like hearing how it is ok to abort anymore than they like hearing what I think about it. So do we all just shut up? If that is the case why even have a abortion bedate fourm?


We have a debate forum so people can learn, maybe even change their minds. I have learned alot more about this issue since I've been on here. Since you are convinced you are right and your views are stagnant and you're unwilling to learn or change your mind, why are you on here? To spread the joy?

No one has ever said that you aren't allowed to speak your mind. If someone disagrees with you, and tells you that, why do you read it as "they told me I can't post my opinion!"

People do this all over the board. I don't understand why????
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Posted: 07-11-07 10:55am

Because it's only free speech if they are allowed to express their opinion. Our opinion that their opinion is flawed is of course suppressing their freedom, even though we have the right to express our opinions too. We're not telling them not to post. We are reading what they have to say, and then responding. If we didn't want them to have an opinion, we'd delete their posts.
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Posted: 07-11-07 11:11am

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Because it's only free speech if they are allowed to express their opinion. Our opinion that their opinion is flawed is of course suppressing their freedom, even though we have the right to express our opinions too. We're not telling them not to post. We are reading what they have to say, and then responding. If we didn't want them to have an opinion, we'd delete their posts.

Thank you Eiri,
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Posted: 07-11-07 11:27am

meblonde01 wrote:
Eiri wrote:
Because it's only free speech if they are allowed to express their opinion. Our opinion that their opinion is flawed is of course suppressing their freedom, even though we have the right to express our opinions too. We're not telling them not to post. We are reading what they have to say, and then responding. If we didn't want them to have an opinion, we'd delete their posts.

Thank you Eiri,


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Posted: 07-11-07 12:54pm

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You need to go look at the pro-choice forum. I did a lot of research and image collection.

There, you will see the true face of regular abortions. They are very rare after 12 weeks.


Oh god that made me feel like I was going to puke. I just had a tubal pregnancy I didn't even think to ask what it would look like! HOLY COW.. Even before 12 weeks they're showing babies with fingers etc.. WOW I thought that it would have just been cells etc


Your baby could never have survived anyway so you mustn't feel guilty about what you had to do. If the baby had been left to grow where it was then you would have died too. Please don't feel guilty.


No I don't feel guilty at all It just makes me sad that thats what the baby would have looked like see at 7 weeks I thought it would just be cells.. I didn';t know it would have looked like little mini baby! Sad
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Posted: 07-11-07 12:57pm

Anne123 wrote:
I can't believe it either. Do a google image search for 7 week fetus and it's very suspicious just how much variation appears.

Here's one that comes from a credible, medical source that is cited directly on the image.

Don't trust images that you don't know where they came from.

This very clearly shows the fetus/potential future human being at various stages. At 7 weeks (49 days) it still looks very weird/alien and still has remnants of a tail.

FYI blondie: Yes it is human, yes it has the potential to become a human .B.E.I.N.G, and at some stages looks vaguely like the baby it could grow into, but I have no problem aborting it if I don't want to be pregnant and I have no problem with any other woman doing it.

Call it a baby, call it killing a living thing, call it whatever you want. Argue semantics until you're blue in the face. I know what it is and I'm fine with it.

http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/wwwh uman/Stages/Images/Cst800.jpg


Anne your pictures are small just black and don't show alot of detail. I think if you were to look at my links on PAGE 3 You will see what they really do look like.. I don't even KNOW why they show what the baby looks like at one day because I think most woman dont even know that they're pregnant till they are like atleast 5 weeks
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Posted: 07-11-07 13:07pm

Anne and Dale, are you guys married? You've got the same 'surname' ie/ 123 Laughing
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Posted: 07-11-07 13:09pm

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Anne and Dale, are you guys married? You've got the same 'surname' ie/ 123 Laughing


LOL I tried to use my name 'stacy' but it was already taken Dale is my boyfriends name I tried stacy1 stacy12 stacy123 NOPE so then I tried dale 123 and it went throuhg
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Posted: 07-11-07 13:14pm

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Posted: 07-11-07 13:19pm

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Anne and Dale, are you guys married? You've got the same 'surname' ie/ 123 Laughing


LOL I tried to use my name 'stacy' but it was already taken Dale is my boyfriends name I tried stacy1 stacy12 stacy123 NOPE so then I tried dale 123 and it went throuhg


Oh yeah I forgot you are a girl Rolling Eyes My joke might have made some sense if women could marry each other. Gah! Laughing
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Posted: 07-11-07 13:24pm

LOL I will sign with 'stacy'; from now on! OK so I was reading on this site about god and abortion.. God not agreeing etc.. Blond this one is for you.. When a woman loses her baby in the womb is that God giving an abortion? I don't know. I do pray , I don't go to church I believe in god most of the time, but just want to say that I hate it when people say you're doing something against gods will.. Etc etc
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Posted: 07-11-07 13:35pm

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LOL I will sign with 'stacy'; from now on! OK so I was reading on this site about god and abortion.. God not agreeing etc.. Blond this one is for you.. When a woman loses her baby in the womb is that God giving an abortion? I don't know. I do pray , I don't go to church I believe in god most of the time, but just want to say that I hate it when people say you're doing something against gods will.. Etc etc


I don't know.. I'm not God. I don't know what his reasons are or why he does what he does.
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Posted: 07-11-07 13:49pm

I think that anyone who claims to know what or whom god is is deluding himself or herself. Whatever it is, if it truly does exist, it is so immense that no human being could ever possibly conceive of it. That is why I get irritated when people tell me such-and-such is against the will or an abomination to god. How could a puny human ever know? As far as I remember god does not speak to man anymore (according to some book that some guys got together and wrote), so how could we be so obstinate as to assume that we know what the will of god is?
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Posted: 07-11-07 14:17pm

Dale123 wrote:
Jules wrote:
Dale123 wrote:
Eiri wrote:
You need to go look at the pro-choice forum. I did a lot of research and image collection.

There, you will see the true face of regular abortions. They are very rare after 12 weeks.


Oh god that made me feel like I was going to puke. I just had a tubal pregnancy I didn't even think to ask what it would look like! HOLY COW.. Even before 12 weeks they're showing babies with fingers etc.. WOW I thought that it would have just been cells etc


Your baby could never have survived anyway so you mustn't feel guilty about what you had to do. If the baby had been left to grow where it was then you would have died too. Please don't feel guilty.


No I don't feel guilty at all It just makes me sad that thats what the baby would have looked like see at 7 weeks I thought it would just be cells.. I didn';t know it would have looked like little mini baby! Sad


A 7 week fetus doesn't look like a mini-baby... it looks like an alien...

http ://www.pregnancy.org//images/articles/7wee ks300x485.jpg

Heck, even that site describes the fetus as alien looking.


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Posted: 07-11-07 14:17pm

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I think that anyone who claims to know what or whom god is is deluding himself or herself. Whatever it is, if it truly does exist, it is so immense that no human being could ever possibly conceive of it. That is why I get irritated when people tell me such-and-such is against the will or an abomination to god. How could a puny human ever know? As far as I remember god does not speak to man anymore (according to some book that some guys got together and wrote), so how could we be so obstinate as to assume that we know what the will of god is?

I don't know. I guess it is if you beleive the bible to be the word of God and follow it. As far as a book some man wrote that he doesn't speak. I choose to believe he still speaks to us. But I sure don't know the will of God. I hope to think I know what he expects of us.
You know sillya.. There is going to be a stop to this discussion don't ya?? Smile we already crossed the line.. LOL
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Posted: 07-11-07 14:22pm

meblonde01 wrote:
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Because it's only free speech if they are allowed to express their opinion. Our opinion that their opinion is flawed is of course suppressing their freedom, even though we have the right to express our opinions too. We're not telling them not to post. We are reading what they have to say, and then responding. If we didn't want them to have an opinion, we'd delete their posts.

Thank you Eiri,


Oh my goodness. Laughing
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Posted: 07-11-07 14:43pm

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meblonde01 wrote:
Eiri wrote:
Because it's only free speech if they are allowed to express their opinion. Our opinion that their opinion is flawed is of course suppressing their freedom, even though we have the right to express our opinions too. We're not telling them not to post. We are reading what they have to say, and then responding. If we didn't want them to have an opinion, we'd delete their posts.

Thank you Eiri,


Oh my goodness. Laughing


oh my goodness? did something surprise you
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Posted: 07-11-07 14:53pm

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Anne and Dale, are you guys married? You've got the same 'surname' ie/ 123 Laughing


LOL I tried to use my name 'stacy' but it was already taken Dale is my boyfriends name I tried stacy1 stacy12 stacy123 NOPE so then I tried dale 123 and it went throuhg


Oh yeah I forgot you are a girl Rolling Eyes My joke might have made some sense if women could marry each other. Gah! Laughing


Women CAN marry eachother silly! In Canada and the UK at least....

Your screen must be wonky Dale (Stacy) because on mine it is a full-screen picture. Yes, they are black & white but it is hard to find a colour picture from a legitimate medical source.

Here is the google images search for a 7 week fetus. Like I said, the amount of variation in the photos is very suspicious. You do need to weed through the crap to find credibly sourced photos.

[link removed by Anne] Okay well the link didn't work but you know how to use google images search.
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Posted: 07-11-07 14:55pm

The link didn't work.

What might also help make the search more accurate is to enter "7 week EMBRYO" since that is what it is. It is not a fetus until 10 weeks.

What's so sickening is that you get variations in images from this:
http://web2.a irmail.net/uthman/graphics/embryo.jpg

to this:
http://www.operationsaveameric a.org/articles/articles/images/BabyInHand. jpg

Link number two is clearly not 7 weeks old. That fetus is nearly 20 weeks old!!!


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