diamondsz
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Posted: 06-18-08 20:04pm
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| antrise
wrote: | | oopoopoop
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | all this talk about parasite
this and zygote that is making me sick. i
didn't magically appear out of thin air or
land on planet earth in a space ship. a
speak from experience when i say i was
created a human being and always have been
a human being. wether i am in a car or a
house or a mother i am a human being.
being inside of a submarine doesn't make
me less than human because i depend on
that submarine for oxygen. and who takes
care of the elderly when they get too old
to to take care of themselves the
offspring do and that is a symbiotic
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This isn't about you.
You are apparently suffering from some
kind of paranoid delusion that you are
going to be retroactively aborted. Much as
this idea appeals, I understand it isn't
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There is a difference between sympathy and
empathy, you want sympathy......
empathy is trying to understand another
person.....Which you really don't do
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aochriss
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Posted: 06-18-08 23:18pm
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| antrise
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a fetus enjoys music. are
you telling us that if you suddenly became
def you won't miss music?
| Quote: | | We are debating
abortion here aren't we? Abortion involves
non-viable embryos and fetuses. No
non-viable fetus "enjoys" anything,
because they aren't conscious. They
aren't conscious because their brains
aren't fully
developed. |
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You said:
" a fetus enjoys music." meaning in the
present, NOW. I merely pointed out that
you are wrong.
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aochriss
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Posted: 06-18-08 23:21pm
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| antrise
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its called
empathy. too bad you don't have
any. |
Do you have empthy for the egg that dies
in menstruation? Why not? Why have
empathy for a fertilized egg but not for
an unfertilized egg?
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antrise
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Posted: 06-19-08 01:25am
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| aochriss
wrote: | | antrise
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its called
empathy. too bad you don't have
any. |
Do you have empthy for the egg that dies
in menstruation? Why not? Why have
empathy for a fertilized egg but not for
an unfertilized
egg? |
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 06-19-08 04:04am
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| antrise
wrote: | | aochriss
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | |
its called
empathy. too bad you don't have
any. |
Do you have empthy for the egg that dies
in menstruation? Why not? Why have
empathy for a fertilized egg but not for
an unfertilized
egg? |
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Right. Good to have a clear and unbiased
intellect addressing the topic. I think
what we are REALLY debating is how come
emotionally stunted and mentally defective
psychopathic men think that their opinion
on the subject is any more relevant than
how many times they maturbated over their
own godliness.
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antrise
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Posted: 06-19-08 10:33am
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| oopoopoop
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | aochriss
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | |
its called
empathy. too bad you don't have
any. |
Do you have empthy for the egg that dies
in menstruation? Why not? Why have
empathy for a fertilized egg but not for
an unfertilized
egg? |
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Right. Good to have a clear and unbiased
intellect addressing the topic. I think
what we are REALLY debating is how come
emotionally stunted and mentally defective
psychopathic men think that their opinion
on the subject is any more relevant than
how many times they maturbated over their
own
godliness. |
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diamondsz
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Posted: 06-19-08 11:12am
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| antrise
wrote: | | oopoopoop
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | aochriss
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | |
its called
empathy. too bad you don't have
any. |
Do you have empthy for the egg that dies
in menstruation? Why not? Why have
empathy for a fertilized egg but not for
an unfertilized
egg? |
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Right. Good to have a clear and unbiased
intellect addressing the topic. I think
what we are REALLY debating is how come
emotionally stunted and mentally defective
psychopathic men think that their opinion
on the subject is any more relevant than
how many times they maturbated over their
own
godliness. |
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some stupid spoiled man stuck his penis in
me jeez so its okay for a man to be
selfish but not a woman.....
your education level please?
Oh by the way you were able to think once
you came out of the womb...
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Reptar
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Posted: 06-19-08 16:38pm
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I think antrise is just terrified his
mother will try to abort him 50 years
later. I can kind of see his point 
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Maddie34
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Posted: 06-19-08 17:13pm
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| antrise
wrote: | | aochriss
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | |
its called
empathy. too bad you don't have
any. |
Do you have empthy for the egg that dies
in menstruation? Why not? Why have
empathy for a fertilized egg but not for
an unfertilized
egg? |
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You do realize that there are times when
the guy or even angry parents of a teen
will demand the woman gets the abortion.
Or do you just consider a woman's choice
relevant when it coincides with your
morals?
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diamondsz
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Posted: 06-19-08 17:24pm
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| Maddie34
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | aochriss
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | |
its called
empathy. too bad you don't have
any. |
Do you have empthy for the egg that dies
in menstruation? Why not? Why have
empathy for a fertilized egg but not for
an unfertilized
egg? |
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You do realize that there are times when
the guy or even angry parents of a teen
will demand the woman gets the abortion.
Or do you just consider a woman's choice
relevant when it coincides with your
morals? |
There is no one forcing them to have an
abortion, someone may influence their
deicsion but then again if they went to
planned parent-hood and said someone else
want me to get an abortion, well in those
circumstances they will help you out.
When you go to an abortion clinic, they
ask you " Are you sure you really want to
do this?"
If you continue, then it is a choice that
was made personally
If you dont, then you have a healthy
pregnancy with a choice of adoption or
parenting, if these people do not want to
educate themselves before getting a
procedure done then they are being
ignorant to no one but themselves. Not
trying to come off as crude but if I were
going in for surgery I would want to make
sure I understood the procedure, much less
know that I could back out if I wanted
to.
Abortion clinics will never ever FORCE
abortion on anyone, if you get there and
decide to stop, they wont say no, unless
they already started the procedure. The
purpose of abortion clinics is not to
promote abortion but make sure that it is
done safely for the womans health.
We thought, my sister was being pushed
into an abortion a few weeks ago,
therefore me and my mother both told her
we would accept her even if she decided to
keep her pregnancy, we also said we would
help her out. To assume that we promote
abortion is ridiculous, we promote the
fact to keep safe abortion and not the act
itself, well depending on the person.
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antrise
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Posted: 06-19-08 18:47pm
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abortion is never safe for the person(s)
getting whacked. to them abortion is
always fatal.
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Darkmoon
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Posted: 06-19-08 20:04pm
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| antrise
wrote: | | abortion is never safe for
the person(s) getting whacked. to them
abortion is always
fatal. |
Pregnancy is never safe for the woman,
particularly in cases where her family and
sperm donor will try to kill her.
But women are just breeding fodder
according to the mentally ill
woman-haters, after all.
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antrise
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Posted: 06-19-08 22:59pm
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| Darkmoon
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | abortion is never safe for
the person(s) getting whacked. to them
abortion is always
fatal. |
Pregnancy is never safe for the woman,
particularly in cases where her family and
sperm donor will try to kill her.
But women are just breeding fodder
according to the mentally ill
woman-haters, after
all. |
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diamondsz
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Posted: 06-20-08 06:53am
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| antrise
wrote: | | Darkmoon
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | abortion is never safe for
the person(s) getting whacked. to them
abortion is always
fatal. |
Pregnancy is never safe for the woman,
particularly in cases where her family and
sperm donor will try to kill her.
But women are just breeding fodder
according to the mentally ill
woman-haters, after
all. |
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Definition of PEOPLE/PERSON
The term person is used informally to mean
a human. But in the fields of law,
philosophy, medicine, and others, it means
the presence of certain characteristics
that grant a certain legal, ethical, or
moral standing.
For example, in many jurisdictions, the
law allows a group of human beings to act
together as a single composite entity
called a corporation, and the corporation
is considered a legal person with standing
to sue or be sued in court. In philosophy
and medicine, person may mean only humans
who are capable of certain kinds of
thought, and thus exclude embryos, early
fetuses, or adults with certain types of
brain damage.[1][2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
/Person
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1: human, individual —sometimes used in
combination especially by those who prefer
to avoid man in compounds applicable to
both sexes
<chairperson><spokesperson>2:
a character or part in or as if in a play
: guise3 a: one of the three modes of
being in the Trinitarian Godhead as
understood by Christians b: the unitary
personality of Christ that unites the
divine and human natures4 aarchaic :
bodily appearance b: the body of a human
being; also : the body and clothing
<unlawful search of the person>5:
the personality of a human being : self6:
one (as a human being, a partnership, or a
corporation) that is recognized by law as
the subject of rights and duties7:
reference of a segment of discourse to the
speaker, to one spoken to, or to one
spoken of as indicated by means of certain
pronouns or in many languages by verb
inflection
— per·son·hood Listen to the
pronunciation of personhood \-ˌhu̇d\
noun
— in person
: in one's bodily presence <the movie
star appeared in per
http://www.merr
iam-webster.com/dictionary/person
The law dictates a person recognized by
the fact they are conscious/sentient and
can feel pain THAT IS A FACT ANTRISE
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antrise
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Posted: 06-20-08 06:59am
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when you kill a man you not only take away
everything he has, but everthing he ever
will have.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 06-20-08 07:13am
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| antrise
wrote: | | when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has, but
everthing he ever will
have. |
So if someone bumped you off, intelligence
would not be a casualty.
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antrise
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Posted: 06-20-08 07:37am
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| oopoopoop
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has, but
everthing he ever will
have. |
So if someone bumped you off, intelligence
would not be a
casualty. |
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 06-20-08 08:39am
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| antrise
wrote: | | oopoopoop
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has, but
everthing he ever will
have. |
So if someone bumped you off, intelligence
would not be a
casualty. |
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Yes it was. But the statement above is
fairly nonsensical. Do you also feel sorry
for all the fertilised eggs that are
miscarried? Do you also feel sorry for
every sperm that doesn't make it into an
egg, and every egg that gets expelled
without a chance to live?
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Birch
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Posted: 06-20-08 13:56pm
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| antrise
wrote: | | when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has, but
everthing he ever will
have. |
But not women?  
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antrise
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Posted: 06-20-08 17:48pm
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| Birch
wrote: | | antrise
wrote: | | when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has, but
everthing he ever will
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But not women? |
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