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window period for HIV
Posted: 05-16-08 04:36am
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Hi,
I am from India.
i received a cut on my neck at a salon
while getting a shave done. I went for a
test after one month and then repeated a
test after 86 days. both were negative. AM
I IN THE CLEAR.... can i rest in peace?
please help
God bless
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Posted: 05-16-08 04:48am
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somebody please help me. do i need to
repeat any test?
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Posted: 05-16-08 05:25am
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Please help me. I beg of you guys.
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Posted: 05-16-08 05:41am
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Hello, don't worry about the lack of
responses, you are not being ignored - the
bulk of the users here are from the US so
they were still in bed while you wrote
your posts
To answer your question, relax! Not only
is it unlikely you would have caught HIV
that way but you've had 2 negative tests
now. Just to be sure you could have
another test in a few months but I really
think you're okay.
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Posted: 05-16-08 05:49am
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I did a final test after 86 days of my
exposure. do I yet require a test. i mean
i missed the mark by 4 days... does such a
short period make a difference? I MEAN IS
IT REALLY IMPORTANT TO REPEAT A TEST?
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Muthoni
Posted: 05-16-08 10:02am
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homerx
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:10am
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no, you can not get AIDs that way. HIV can
not live out side the body. relax.
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Re: Supporter
Posted: 05-16-08 10:12am
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| ambuzz
wrote: | | I did a final test after 86
days of my exposure. do I yet require a
test. i mean i missed the mark by 4
days... does such a short period make a
difference? I MEAN IS IT REALLY IMPORTANT
TO REPEAT A
TEST? |
as long as it was at
least 3 months after risk then any time is
fine. YOU ARE FINE. You can not get HIV
from a cut unless you and some one else
are neck and neck...
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:17am
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it was 86 days when i did a repeat
test.... do you think 4 days could have
changed the report? it is 12 weeks but 90
days... do you see risk in it? also what
does neck and neck mean? can i consider my
second test report it conclusive?
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homerx
Posted: 05-16-08 10:24am
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Can I consider it conclusive....
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:30am
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Yes. Conclusive. When i said neck and neck
I meant that the only way you could give
or get HIV from bleeding from your neck
would be if some one who had HIV was also
bleeding from there neck and you put the
bleeding cuts together. I was just trying
to give you an example about how hard it
actually is to pass the virus from one
person to another. You have to exchange
body fluids. You say you were cut by a
razor? You cant get it from that. The
virus can only live for a few seconds
outside the body so you can forget about
it. You are safe. Enjoy your life. let
this go. You are fine.
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:36am
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Homer, if the virus only lives for seconds
outside the body, why do they make
piercers and tatooists sterilise all their
equipment? I know other nasties can be
passed on but I thought it was because of
the HIV risk too?
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:41am
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thanks a ton sir. your confidence brought
hope and happiness. oh by the way your
thumbnail is an Indian Deity- Lord Shiva
in a Tandav Avtar...that means in a
dancing state of anger
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Re: homerx
Posted: 05-16-08 11:06am
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| ambuzz
wrote: | | thanks a ton sir. your
confidence brought hope and happiness. oh
by the way your thumbnail is an Indian
Deity- Lord Shiva in a Tandav Avtar...that
means in a dancing state of
anger |
Cool...thank you...
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:17am
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| Jules
wrote: | | Homer, if the virus only
lives for seconds outside the body, why do
they make piercers and tatooists sterilise
all their equipment? I know other nasties
can be passed on but I thought it was
because of the HIV risk
too? |
The easy answer is that
HIV requires living cells to persist - so
exposure to air will typically result in
cell death within a few seconds to hours.
The only exception to this is in the case
where a larger volume of blood is spilled,
then the cells in the center of the pool
will be preserved for a longer period of
time. But the general answer to the
typical small cut and blood contact is
that the virus survives very poorly
outside the body and is probably of
minimal risk as soon as the blood dries
(minutes to hours depending on the volume
of the spill or cut).
Tattooing:
A risk of HIV transmission does exist if
instruments contaminated with blood are
either not sterilized or disinfected or
are used inappropriately between clients.
CDC recommends that instruments that are
intended to penetrate the skin be used
once, then disposed of or thoroughly
cleaned and sterilized.
Personal service workers who do tattooing
or body piercing should be educated about
how HIV is transmitted and take
precautions to prevent transmission of HIV
and other blood-borne infections in their
settings. If you are considering getting a
tattoo or having your body pierced, ask
staff at the establishment what procedures
they use to prevent the spread of HIV and
other blood-borne infections, such as
hepatitis B virus. You also may call the
local health department to find out what
sterilization procedures are in place in
the local area for these types of
establishments.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:23am
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hope this doesn not rtelate to my incident
at all... does it?
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:28am
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No, you are fine my friend.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:30am
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Thank you.. it is time for me to go off to
bed.. good night.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:30am
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Also let me add this. Even if some one who
has HIV used a razor and then you used the
came razor, if the blood was dry you could
not get the HIV that way.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:35am
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How long can the HIV virus survive outside
the body? What conditions would be
necessary in order for the virus to live?
The best answer I have found for this
question is from a CDC pamphlet, from
which I extracted the following
information:
HIV in the Environment
Scientists and medical authorities
agree that HIV does not survive well in
the environment, making the possibility of
environmental transmission remote. HIV is
found in varying concentrations or amounts
in blood, semen, vaginal fluid, breast
milk, saliva, and tears. (See below,
Saliva, Tears, and Sweat.) In order to
obtain data on the survival of HIV,
laboratory studies have required the use
of artificially high concentrations of
laboratory-grown virus. Although these
unnatural concentrations of HIV can be
kept alive under precisely controlled and
limited laboratory conditions, CDC studies
have showned that drying of even these
high concentrations of HIV reduces the
number of infectious viruses by 90 to 99
percent within several hours. Since the
HIV concentrations used in laboratory
studies are much higher than those
actually found in blood or other
specimens, drying of HIV- infected human
blood or other body fluids reduces the
theoretical risk of environmental
transmission to that which has been
observed--essentially zero.
Incorrect interpretation of
conclusions drawn from laboratory studies
have alarmed people unnecessarily. Results
from laboratory studies should not be used
to determine specific personal risk of
infection because 1) the amount of virus
studied is not found in human specimens or
anyplace else in nature, and 2) no one has
been identified with HIV due to contact
with an environmental surface;
Additionally, since HIV is unable to
reproduce outside its living host (unlike
many bacteria or fungi, which may do so
under suitable conditions), except under
laboratory conditions, it does not spread
or maintain infectiousness outside its
host.
HIV is sensitive to fluctuations in
temperature and the presence of oxygen.
One place that HIV has been know to
survive in is drug injection syringes
since these are airtight and often contain
blood from the injector.
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