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Posted: 07-17-08 09:46am


over the actual abortion I had? yes. Because it was now a sperm and egg united and forming a living human being!

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Posted: 07-17-08 17:27pm

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meblonde01 wrote:

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If she knew she can get pregnant so easy then she should have not been having so much sex until her situation was "perfect" according to her. What a sad life the one of this woman. 39 and living on shame..At least she says now she wouldn't have any more abortions.

yeah, to bad she didn't say that after the first one.. if she felt so bad.

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All women should live in shame, then, because even having sex in order to procreate causes abortions, just as many if not more than the woman in the story who had 7.

The end result of having sex to make a child and having sex for pleasure is still dead fertilized eggs and embryos. Do you two feel shame over the abortions you've caused?

I have never been diagnosed pregnant in my whole life until 4 months ago and I'm carrying my baby happily. You have to be pregnant to have an abortion. Dead fertilized egg is not pregnant. Pregnancy occurs when the fertilized egg and sperms implants succesfully in the womb.

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Posted: 07-17-08 17:55pm


This article is actually interesting because note that this woman does wanted to have children, she wasn't really pregnancy phobic (like Mrs. Rosie, Birch or Caryfairy) She was just waiting her situation to have a child was "perfect" and well she never had a "perfect" situation. That happens to a lot of women. They abort waiting for a perfect situation and well the perfect situation never happens. Somebody close I know of had an abortion. Well this gal is now 35 and still remains in her unmarried situation. She is now of course dying to have a baby as she is getting older and has no man available to have one. So that time she got pregnant looks like it was going to be the only chance she had to be a mum. Poor soul. I can't even tell her much about my baby and how happy I am as I know she is feeling so bad she can't have one.. I don't think there is anything that guarantees a "perfect" situation to have a child. How many women have babies in good marriages and then divorce. If you are divorced then you are not anymore in your "perfect" situation but they accept and continue happy with their children.

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Posted: 07-18-08 03:51am

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You have to be pregnant to have an abortion. Dead fertilized egg is not pregnant. Pregnancy occurs when the fertilized egg and sperms implants succesfully in the womb.

So you have no issues with Plan B, IUD's, contraceptives that thin the lining of the womb? (no ulterior motive in this question by the way, genuinely curious)

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Posted: 07-18-08 03:55am

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They abort waiting for a perfect situation and well the perfect situation never happens.

Or sometimes it does. I aborted because (in the most general of terms) my situation wasn't perfect, had I fallen pregnant again throughout my training I would have probably aborted again due to that and waited until I was in a more desirable position to have a child (not perfect because it happened sooner than anticipated but close to)

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I don't think there is anything that guarantees a "perfect" situation to have a child. How many women have babies in good marriages and then divorce. If you are divorced then you are not anymore in your "perfect" situation but they accept and continue happy with their children.

There are no guarentees with anything in life, (and waiting for the "perfect" situation doesn't mean marriage to all people) but I don't see the problem in not bringing a child into the world when you can't financially and emotionally support it

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Posted: 07-18-08 06:37am

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nightangel73 wrote:

You have to be pregnant to have an abortion. Dead fertilized egg is not pregnant. Pregnancy occurs when the fertilized egg and sperms implants succesfully in the womb.

So you have no issues with Plan B, IUD's, contraceptives that thin the lining of the womb? (no ulterior motive in this question by the way, genuinely curious)

I have no problems with those methods. Particulary with hormonal IUD's as they do the same work as the pill.

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Posted: 07-18-08 06:48am

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Me neither, that's why I did not adventured to have sex until I could financially and emotionally support a child. This lady from the article is an extreme because along her abortions she did found supportive partner but just didn't even give a shot and try to see if it might work out. She simply assumed it was not going to work out. This lady is mentally disturbed and therefore her sad life. What is interesting to learn is how we don't know the future and how decisions we make today can make a difference in the future. We shall not be afraid with what life puts ahead of us.

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Posted: 07-18-08 15:53pm


I am not scared of pregnancy, I just never want children. I also never wish to gestate a pregnancy, as I do not want my body to change.

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Posted: 07-18-08 17:34pm

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I am not scared of pregnancy, I just never want children. I also never wish to gestate a pregnancy, as I do not want my body to change.

If you do not want your body to change then you are scared pregnancy will change your body. Isn't that the same thing? Wink

I do not mean to debate with you, what I meant when I said pregnancy phobia was exactly what you are saying, women who do want ever have children, nor want to be pregnant. Which is different to women who want to be pregnant but at a certain point in their lives.

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Posted: 07-18-08 22:16pm


I'm not afraid of pregnancy, I have no phobia for it; I just don't want it like I don't want celery or an SUV.

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Posted: 07-18-08 23:23pm


Fear (phobia) and revulsion aren't exactly the same thing, are they? My analogy would be facial piercing...

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Posted: 07-19-08 13:12pm


Phobias ALSO require a reaction to another persons pregnancy. A diagnosis of 'phobia' requires that you also have a reaction to someone else's pregnancy.(medically speaking) Pregnancy does not bother me.. I would rather not do that to my body though.I also like the freedom that my husband and I share as childfree people.

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Posted: 07-19-08 13:58pm

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Seems a little odd to me that you can be that unlucky 7 times

I'm guessing 8 since she almost aborted her son but over the years I guess it's possible to have many unwanted pregnancies (wouls people be critical if she'd continued them all??). She says she used contraception properly, only she knows how true that is but regardless her life, her decisions

Oh god yeah i agree 100% that it's her decision but i've just never heard of being unlucky that many times but i guess it can happen. Take my family for example, i know i was conceived while my mum was on the pill and my mum got pregnant within the first month of trying with my sister, my sister got pregnant with her two on the pill and i got pregnant with Mika while on the pill with a condom, so yeah thinking of that i guess it's possible.
My way of thinking now is that i'd rather a child was never born then bought into a family who didn't want it and wasn't cared for properly because of that. I used to be 100% pro-life and i regret vthat so much now.

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Posted: 07-19-08 14:18pm

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i got pregnant with Mika while on the pill with a condom, so yeah thinking of that i guess it's possible.

did the condom broke? I'm just wondering how the sperm traspassed the condom in order for you to be pregnant.

Being pregnant 7 times is easy provided your birth control method is not working.

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Posted: 07-19-08 14:27pm


as far as we knew it didn't because we would of got plan b if we'd realised so im guessing it must of had a small split or slipped while he got out, all we can think of

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Posted: 07-20-08 15:51pm


Hey Danni, sorry if you've said this somewhere already, but what made you decide not to have an abortion? (I'm not saying you should have or anything, just curious what went into your decision.)

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Posted: 07-20-08 16:25pm

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over the actual abortion I had? yes. Because it was now a sperm and egg united and forming a living human being!

No, are you purposefully not understanding the question? It involved FERTILIZED eggs, you know, as in Because it was now a sperm and egg united and forming a living human being!.

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All women should live in shame, then, because even having sex in order to procreate causes abortions, just as many if not more than the woman in the story who had 7.

The end result of having sex to make a child and having sex for pleasure is still dead fertilized eggs and embryos. Do you two feel shame over the abortions you've caused?

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Posted: 07-20-08 18:11pm


I think this woman would be just as unhappy if she had birthed all 7 of those pregnancies. I don't buy that she was using contraception consistently and correctly all the time. She says she was on the pill for at least some of the pregnancies - well, if the pill isn't working for you, wouldn't you find another method??? BTW I am not pregnancy phobic, I just do not want to put my body through it.

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Posted: 07-21-08 04:42am

nightangel73 wrote:

Dannzibelle wrote:

i got pregnant with Mika while on the pill with a condom, so yeah thinking of that i guess it's possible.

did the condom broke? I'm just wondering how the sperm traspassed the condom in order for you to be pregnant.

Condoms, used correctly, not breaking, aren't 100% effective (about 97%). Nothing is.

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Being pregnant 7 times is easy provided your birth control method is not working.

Do you mean getting pregnant or being pregnant??

Being pregnant wasn't eay for me so I can't imagine it would be easy another 4 times, if you meant getting pregnant is easy then tell that to someone who has been TTCing for months or years Rolling Eyes

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Posted: 07-22-08 07:09am

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Condoms, used correctly, not breaking, aren't 100% effective (about 97%). Nothing is.

then it means that semen can traspass the condoms. There is no way you can get pregnant with no semen. There is got to be semen and there's got to be an egg.