Jules
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Would you abort if...
Posted: 03-04-08 03:04am
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...you would have a healthy child for,
say, seven years but then they would go on
to develop a serious, chronic illness that
would kill them? If you had that
foreknowledge, would you abort to spare
them the pain?
Just a hypothetical that I pondered on
while answering a question in the
pro-choice forum.
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Jules
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Posted: 03-04-08 10:08am
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LOL
So you guys aren't big believers in 'it's
better to have loved and lost than never
to have loved at all'?
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Posted: 03-04-08 10:18am
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The pain of losing a child in unthinkable,
but the pain that the child goes through
is unbearable. I could never have a child
knowing they were going to suffer like
that.
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Posted: 03-04-08 11:07am
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| Reptar
wrote: | | The pain of losing a child
in unthinkable, but the pain that the
child goes through is unbearable. I could
never have a child knowing they were going
to suffer like
that. |
Well said!
I would abort.
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Posted: 03-04-08 11:31am
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I wouldn't. The future is never set in
stone.
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Posted: 03-04-08 16:33pm
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No. Even if it's certain my child would
have the disease, there could be a cure or
something similar by then.
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Posted: 03-04-08 18:13pm
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To give birth would knowingly submit a
thinking being to a deadly disease just as
they were becoming aware of life's
possibilities? And this child would then
just suffer and die? How awful. It seems
desperately cruel to me. Abort for sure.
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Posted: 03-04-08 22:37pm
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I wouldn't abort. There is no guarantee
any of your children born healthy will
live longer than you so the example is
very fantastic. Should my mom had aborted
my brother if she knew he was going to
live only 33 years? Come'on - you either
respect life or you don't. You are either
set up to kill or you don't. That's it.
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Posted: 03-05-08 00:17am
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The whole point of the hypothetical is
that there is no cure coming along.
Taking the hypothetical at face value, I
don't know how anyone could let such
suffering occur.
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Posted: 03-05-08 15:55pm
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| Jules
wrote: | LOL
So you guys aren't big believers in 'it's
better to have loved and lost than never
to have loved at
all'? |
I agree. Further more abortion, in my
opinoin, is homicide!
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Posted: 03-05-08 20:14pm
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| Catch25
wrote: | | Jules
wrote: | LOL
So you guys aren't big believers in 'it's
better to have loved and lost than never
to have loved at
all'? |
I agree. Further more abortion, in my
opinoin, is
homicide! |
Imagine if we were to abort everybody who
at some point of their life will develop a
chronic illness. Millions and more
millions killed.
Yup let's kill everybody who is not
perfect.
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Posted: 03-05-08 21:59pm
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| nightangel73
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Imagine if we were to abort everybody who
at some point of their life will develop a
chronic illness. Millions and more
millions killed.
Yup let's kill everybody who is not
perfect. |
Strawman. You're applying a stance that
not one person in this thread has taken.
Do you leap to conclusions like this with
everything? If someone says: "I don't
like dogs very much and will never choose
to own one," do you hear: "I hate all
canines with a flaming passion and won't
stop until I've wiped every last one of
them from the face of the earth!
Mwah-ha-ha!"??
There is such a thing as trying too hard
to read between the lines and inventing a
conclusion that was never there.
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Posted: 03-05-08 23:32pm
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We were pretending in this case that the
diagnosis was absolutely 100% irrefutable.
Adding on "oh well you never know" makes
the entire thought exercise useless.
So, following the rule that shouldn't have
needed to be stated, I would probably
abort too, for the same reasons others
have listed. It would be a hard decision
however.
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Posted: 03-05-08 23:35pm
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Here's a question about the scenario: how
long does the sick-and-suffering phase of
the disease last? I think for some people
it might make a difference if it's 10 days
versus 10 years. Because if someone needs
round-the-clock care, is in pain, and
requires huge amounts of medical
intervention to stay alive, you'd have to
managing your whole life around this
eventually happening. You couldn't plan on
having more children, because you wouldn't
have the resources and it wouldn't be fair
to them. One could also argue that if you
give birth knowing that these medical
problems would arise, that they shouldn't
be covered by insurance.
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Posted: 03-06-08 12:51pm
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I was thinking that it is better to live
and experience than not at all, and one
never knows what kind of experiences you
will have, or what kind of impact you may
have on others.
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Posted: 03-07-08 06:54am
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Birch said it perfectly. It doesn't
matter how long a human is in this world,
they make a differance from the moment of
birth. When you never give them a chance
to make that difference, that is like
taking away a small part of the world. How
can somebaody say that abortion is right
when it is young children who often make
the biggest differences in this world.
Abortion is the homicide of a child. It
does not matter how old or young the fetus
in question is!
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Posted: 03-07-08 09:43am
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| Catch25
wrote: | | How can somebaody say that
abortion is right when it is young
children who often make the biggest
differences in this world.
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Oh, they do not "make the biggest
differences." Children are just treated
as if they count more.
Adults are the ones out there being
doctors and scientists and engineers and
joining the Peace Corps to save the
starving people in Africa. Kids don't do
spit to make a REAL difference in the
world.
Personally, this whole "child worship"
mentality irritates the **** out of me. I
love seeing headlines that say "Two
children perish in blaze," then read the
article to find out that four other people
died as well, but they don't matter enough
to put in the headline because they are
adults.
Oh, and in answer to the original question
in this thread, I would abort any
pregnancy that happened to me. But in
some hypothetical world where I actually
wanted kids, I would most certainly abort
any fetus that would develop a painful and
fatal disease seven years after birth.
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