You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-05-08 22:34pm
Recently on a post, someone was going on
about how men never take responsibility
and then when a women chooses to abort, HE
never gets blamed and all that jazz. Well,
you guys complain about men knocking
someone up and then leaving; not caring
and just doing whatever they want and not
caring in the least for the girl.
By wanting abortion legal, you are giving
women the option to be just like those
men; sluts. You are justifying the mens
behavior because you want women to be able
to do the same thing: have sex with
whoever whenever and not have to bear the
consequences, the same thing men do that
you complain about.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 05-05-08 22:41pm
I highly suggest you do some research on
exactly why women have abortions before
you go around calling them "sluts".
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Posted: 05-05-08 23:40pm
Wow, someone has herself convinced that
unwanted pregnancy only occurs in women
that screw random strangers. Why am I not
surprised. Here's some free advice for
you before I banish you from my screen,
Jellybean: You should get away from PLA.
Insane people corrupt young minds. There
are prolife communities out there that
aren't full of terrorism advocates and
complete misogynists. It would be a
better environment for you.
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-05-08 23:46pm
jujujellybean
wrote:
By wanting abortion legal, you are giving
women the option to be just like those
men; sluts. You are justifying the mens
behavior because you want women to be able
to do the same thing: have sex with
whoever whenever and not have to bear the
consequences, the same thing men do that
you complain
about.
Being promiscuous has nothing to do with
abortion. Nothing. Abortion isn't fun
and no woman wants to have to make the
decision to have one. Do you think woman
are saying "Well, I don't have a condom
tonight, so I'll just have unprotected sex
with this random guy who I don't know, and
if I get pregnant, I'll just abort it"?
Why do you feel that a woman who sleeps
around would be less careful when
protecting herself from pregnancy then a
woman who is in a relationship?
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Posted: 05-06-08 04:07am
Juju, when I conjure up an image of what
you look like, and the type of person you
are, I do get a very positive image. You
are the type of person that will always
fight for the underdogs and the
oppressed.
Try not to judge though. Married woman who
take every precaution not to fall pregnant
should not be placed in the same category
as women with ‘questionable
reputations’.
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Posted: 05-06-08 09:10am
AyaMiyaki
wrote:
I highly suggest you do some
research on exactly why women have
abortions before you go around calling
them "sluts".
aye aye aye! You just think I get on here
and blab about abortion before knowing why
women get them? I am NOT that stupid.
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-06-08 09:16am
lucy315
wrote:
jujujellybean
wrote:
By wanting abortion legal, you are giving
women the option to be just like those
men; sluts. You are justifying the mens
behavior because you want women to be able
to do the same thing: have sex with
whoever whenever and not have to bear the
consequences, the same thing men do that
you complain
about.
Being promiscuous has nothing to do with
abortion. Nothing. Abortion isn't fun
and no woman wants to have to make the
decision to have one. Do you think woman
are saying "Well, I don't have a condom
tonight, so I'll just have unprotected sex
with this random guy who I don't know, and
if I get pregnant, I'll just abort it"?
Why do you feel that a woman who sleeps
around would be less careful when
protecting herself from pregnancy then a
woman who is in a
relationship?
You missed my point, I think. The point
is, everyone was complaining about how men
sleep around and never take
responsibility. When women are allowed to
have an abortion at will, they are doing
exactly what men are doing: doing whatever
they want and not having to pay at all for
it. To me, it is degrading!
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Posted: 05-06-08 09:19am
Darkmoon
wrote:
Wow, someone has herself
convinced that unwanted pregnancy only
occurs in women that screw random
strangers. Why am I not surprised.
Here's some free advice for you before I
banish you from my screen, Jellybean: You
should get away from PLA. Insane people
corrupt young minds. There are prolife
communities out there that aren't full of
terrorism advocates and complete
misogynists. It would be a better
environment for
you.
what do you guys take me for? this is
depressing.
And WHY should I get away from there? I
don't agree with any of those people on
there that think bombing abortion clinics
and all that stuff is right! That's so
wrong and I would never support that. stop
blaming my views on a website you don't
like, because they have nothing to do with
it.
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-06-08 09:50am
jujujellybean
wrote:
Recently on a post, someone
was going on about how men never take
responsibility and then when a women
chooses to abort, HE never gets blamed and
all that jazz. Well, you guys complain
about men knocking someone up and then
leaving; not caring and just doing
whatever they want and not caring in the
least for the girl.
By wanting abortion legal, you are giving
women the option to be just like those
men; sluts. You are justifying the mens
behavior because you want women to be able
to do the same thing: have sex with
whoever whenever and not have to bear the
consequences, the same thing men do that
you complain
about.
This is the point where all logical debate
ends, because you've got someone whose
views are contaminated by stereotypes.
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-06-08 12:05pm
jujujellybean
wrote:
When women are allowed to
have an abortion at will, they are doing
exactly what men are doing: doing whatever
they want and not having to pay at all for
it. To me, it is
degrading!
Do you feel women should have to "pay" for
having sex by carrying on with a
pregnancy? Pregnancy should not be a
punishment for having sex. If a woman does
not want to continue being pregnant, she
has the right to an abortion if that is
her choice.
What if the woman was in a commited
relationship? What if she's happily
married and does not want to be a parent?
Is she supposed to never have sex with her
husband simply because other people would
look down on her if she were to have an
abortion? What if her birth control fails?
What if she was raped? What if the
pregnancy is dangerous to continue, or she
has to stop treatment for an illness or
condition because it's unsafe for a fetus?
Would you still call these women "sluts"?
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-06-08 14:30pm
jujujellybean
wrote:
You missed my point, I think. The point
is, everyone was complaining about how men
sleep around and never take
responsibility. When women are allowed to
have an abortion at will, they are doing
exactly what men are doing: doing whatever
they want and not having to pay at all for
it. To me, it is
degrading!
Nope, I pretty much understood your point.
I just don't quite understand why you
would use the word "sluts". This is the
part of your original post that confused
me:
//you are giving women the option to be
just like those men; sluts. you want
women to be able to do the same thing:
have sex with whoever whenever and not
have to bear the consequences//
You first speak about men not taking
responsibility, then say that abortion
gives woman the same right by being able
to be "sluts" like the men. I fail to see
the correlation between responsibility and
promiscuity. A married man can walk away
from his pregnant wife just as easily as a
man who has multiple partners and one
night stands can walk away from a pregnant
"fling". I understood your point, but the
way you worded it doesn't make much sense.
It just seemed to me that you implied
that "sluts" are the ones having
abortions.
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Posted: 05-06-08 18:39pm
Right, because all women who have
abortions are "sluts". You've never had an
abortion, so you have no idea what goes
into it. You obviously have no idea that
an abortion can cost up to 500$, so no, we
don't get to run around and not pay for
it. You don't understand anything about
abortion because you're already claiming
women can run around and just get
abortions without batting a lash. You've
obviously never been a women in a long
term committed relationship who got
pregnant while protecting themselves. Try
calling me a promiscuous person to my face
because I got an abortion and we'll see
how far you get.
I was at risk for being pregnant and
considered abortion as the solution a
while back. Why was I at risk? I was in a
monogamous relationship. I'd only ever had
sex with one man. I simply messed up with
my birth control - it happens a lot.
Any woman who has sex, even if she is
married, is at a risk for pregnancy and
thus, any woman can abort.
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Posted: 05-07-08 15:47pm
Ah the ignorance. People like this don't
give me much hope for the future of the
human race .
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-07-08 17:21pm
jujujellybean
wrote:
lucy315
wrote:
jujujellybean
wrote:
By wanting abortion legal, you are giving
women the option to be just like those
men; sluts. You are justifying the mens
behavior because you want women to be able
to do the same thing: have sex with
whoever whenever and not have to bear the
consequences, the same thing men do that
you complain
about.
Being promiscuous has nothing to do with
abortion. Nothing. Abortion isn't fun
and no woman wants to have to make the
decision to have one. Do you think woman
are saying "Well, I don't have a condom
tonight, so I'll just have unprotected sex
with this random guy who I don't know, and
if I get pregnant, I'll just abort it"?
Why do you feel that a woman who sleeps
around would be less careful when
protecting herself from pregnancy then a
woman who is in a
relationship?
You missed my point, I think. The point
is, everyone was complaining about how men
sleep around and never take
responsibility. When women are allowed to
have an abortion at will, they are doing
exactly what men are doing: doing whatever
they want and not having to pay at all for
it. To me, it is
degrading!
That's your main problem with abortion,
isn't it? That it allows women to have
sex without "having to pay for it."
What is it about having sex that makes a
person have to "pay for it"?
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Posted: 05-07-08 17:40pm
aochriss
wrote:
What is it about having sex
that makes a person have to "pay for
it"?
Not a person, aochriss...just women.
Patriarchal society has rendered a lot of
people horrified by the thought of females
enjoying/wanting sex. It's not ladylike
to have needs of our own or to act on them
without producing babies as a result.
What is it about having sex
that makes a person have to "pay for
it"?
Not a person, aochriss...just women.
Patriarchal society has rendered a lot of
people horrified by the thought of females
enjoying/wanting sex. It's not ladylike
to have needs of our own or to act on them
without producing babies as a result.
It makes me think of the old "Trix"
commercials.
"Silly female, sexual pleasure is for
men!"
Ok, I am going to bash this fantasy you
live in that you think all pro life people
think women are just for having babies.
Because I don't.
Sex is fun, sure it is. That's fine; why
would we want that taken away? I believe
in abstinence, saving yourself for
marriage. In this world, though, not many
people agree with me.
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-08-08 18:26pm
AyaMiyaki
wrote:
jujujellybean
wrote:
When women are allowed to
have an abortion at will, they are doing
exactly what men are doing: doing whatever
they want and not having to pay at all for
it. To me, it is
degrading!
Do you feel women should have to "pay" for
having sex by carrying on with a
pregnancy? Pregnancy should not be a
punishment for having sex. If a woman does
not want to continue being pregnant, she
has the right to an abortion if that is
her choice.
What if the woman was in a commited
relationship? What if she's happily
married and does not want to be a parent?
Is she supposed to never have sex with her
husband simply because other people would
look down on her if she were to have an
abortion? What if her birth control fails?
What if she was raped? What if the
pregnancy is dangerous to continue, or she
has to stop treatment for an illness or
condition because it's unsafe for a fetus?
Would you still call these women
"sluts"?
I think everyone here missed my point once
again! I was talking about men who sleep
around and just do whatever they want
sexually knock a girl up and leave; you
are talking about people who are different
than that, I think. Though I don't agree
with BC or contraceptives either.
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Posted: 05-08-08 18:32pm
jujujellybean
wrote:
Darkmoon
wrote:
aochriss
wrote:
What is it about having sex
that makes a person have to "pay for
it"?
Not a person, aochriss...just women.
Patriarchal society has rendered a lot of
people horrified by the thought of females
enjoying/wanting sex. It's not ladylike
to have needs of our own or to act on them
without producing babies as a result.
It makes me think of the old "Trix"
commercials.
"Silly female, sexual pleasure is for
men!"
Ok, I am going to bash this fantasy you
live in that you think all pro life people
think women are just for having babies.
Because I don't.
Sex is fun, sure it is. That's fine; why
would we want that taken away? I believe
in abstinence, saving yourself for
marriage. In this world, though, not many
people agree with
me.
Actually, I already replied in another
post where you told women NOT to have sex
if they don't want to get pregnant. Back
tracking a bit huh?
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Re: You View Women As No Better Posted: 05-08-08 19:08pm
jujujellybean
wrote:
Though I don't agree with BC
or contraceptives
either.
So you believe sex is only for procreation
then? A person should not protect
themselves against getting pregnant, and
should only have sex if they're okay with
having a baby?
.
